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By Steve Ragan Jul 31, 2007, 15:42 GMT
Apple’s iPhone faces class-action lawsuit
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NO!! I refuse to use one. I don't want a silly computer in my pocket, I want a telephone in my pocket.
I also agree with the other posters that it's a very insidious trick Apple has going. Forcing you to purchase another unit because the battery can't be replaced. Good way to make a profit I guess.
And p.s.--knock it off with the foul language! What are you, a teeny-bopper, or an adult who knows what they're talking about? You definitely don't sound grown up, which disqualifies your views in alot of people's eyes. You want to say something? Then say it! Don't mindlessly cuss at people like a peep.
If you refuse to use one, then how can you have any validity in your criticisms? You can't.
You're just full of uninformed hot air.
And if you don't like the battery design on the iPhone, then don't buy one.
Geez, why don't you just go buy some other phone that you do like, and stop crying about how you think some crime was committed by Apple.
Understand, Apple is not indebted to make the phone to your preferences.
(Personally, I've had cell phones for 14 yrs and haven't had to buy a new battery for the last 7 yrs, so to me the battery thing is no big deal.)
Too funny ... no, I'm not a teeny-bopper ... and yes, my views have vailidity (unlike yours) ... I've been making my living on computers since 1985 ... and I'm well versed, thru direct experience, on both Mac and Windows platforms.
(My apologies if the word a** is so offensive to you. A little touchy aren't we?)
I've got an iPod, wish I'd never got it for christmas. There's my validity. Now go be a peep with someone else.
I was going to post what I thought about building battery- operated devices with no way to replace the batteries, and what I thought about the lawsuit. But, I'm going to do something else. What's wrong with a majority of you people? All the techies in my life are highly sociable, intelligent, and pleasant people. Where did all of you bullies and aggressive yahoos come from? Why so hateful over this very simple subject? At least a couple of you posted something without venom spewing. They were very interesting viewpoints. All the rest is hate mongering drivel. Say something worth reading, please?
Your experience with an iPod is hardly the same as having actually used an iPhone.
Now if you want to offer a critique of the iPod, it would have merit, but your hate-filled criticisms of the iPhone are entirely without merit.
Though apparently, being credible is not a really concern to you.
Look, it's really simple ... if you don't like the design, use your power as a consumer and don't buy one.
I used my power as a consumer and did buy one ... My view that is it's an outstanding piece of engineering and design, and it's far surpasses ANY phone I've used before. And that my friend has merit based on real experience.
Have a nice day.
Above posters prove my point. This is about whether or not Apple should be held accountable for their purposefully flawed design. (the lawsuit is frivolous by the way) Instead though, people are using this thread to pick at other people, be rude, (I do agree about the language) and advertise the iPhone. (Work for apple do you? You're singing their praises awfully loud) What do you think about Apple's choice to make you replace your unit instead of the battery? What do you think about Apple being sued over it? I don't want to hear anything about consumer's right to buy or not to buy. This isn't about our rights, it's about Apple's amoral choice to make their design the way they do, and to then monopolize the carrier. I'll personally stick with my pretty pink Razr for now, Apple's not getting MY money until I can change the battery when it goes bad. (Unlike other posters, I HAVE had batteries go bad)
How many batteries for your cell phones have you had to buy in the past 3 yrs because they wore out ?
Please limit responses to name brand battery makers, not cheap knock-offs that may be of questionable quality.
Your truthful answers can help us gain a better understanding of how potentially relevant the battery question is.
(After reading the posts, I think the general consensus about the lawsuit is, it's right up there with the foolishness of suing McDonald's because BigMacs made an over-eater fat)
I've had one battery a year go bad for the last five years. All of them Nokia, and the replacements were purchased through Verizon's website or store. All name brand Nokia batteries (expensive too) anybody else have the same problem? I've obviously switched brands.
Chill out on the negative attitude, bad for the karma you know.
No, I don't work for Apple, but use them to make my living everyday.
I sing their praises because they are THAT much better than windows devices ... and I choose to speak out to counter the uninformed, venomous rants against them by people who've never used them.
Regarding your comment ... Apple doesn't require me to 'replace' my phone if the battery wears out, instead I would send it in for battery replacement, not have to buy a new phone (please, your exaggerated representation does no good for truthful discussion)
Re: Apples battery design ... personally, I think it was a natural evolution choice for Apple from the iPod ... the iPhone was clearly based on the immensely successful iPod ... and the iPod has for years, had a built in battery that the user could not replace at home ... it's clearly a carry over from that ... Have we heard of these kinds of lawsuits over the iPod batteries? Or, mass failings of iPod batteries? No ... Again, I think Apple approached it from an iPod evolution standpoint.
Re; the limit to use AT&T only ... if we understand that the carrier has to have supporting infrastructure/programming/hardware/coverage etc to offer the functions capable on an iPhone, it makes sense that Apple would not endorse offering it thru carriers that would not be able to meet their standards, and long term goals of service. AT&Ts edge network, while not currently being the fastest thing out there, has the broadest national coverage and they've agreed to make improvements in cooperation with Apple longterm ... Apple has publicly stated they didn't want people to buy the phone only to then have their carrier not be able to make it work properly on their systems ... the PR result of the carriers lackings would ultimately - even if wrongfully - reflect negatively on Apple. See?
Wasn't talking to you about the 'negative attitude' I was listening to idiots outside arguing and my fingers just reacted. Had to come back to tell you that. Tori
When you say '... their purposefully flawed design' and '... it's about Apple's amoral choice to make their design the way they do.' (Purposely flawed? Amoral? Geez, it's a phone not something poisonous)
And then you choose to interject with negative connotations, 'Work for apple do you?'
That's hardly kind and objective ... in my opinion, very negatively judgmental.
So please, given your comments I'd appreciate it if you didn't give me a lecture on Karma. Thank you.
Tori, my above response was posted before I saw your clarification. I was one of the two posters you mentioned in your post, so naturally I thought you meant me as well ... My apologies if I misunderstood..
This is a re-post to bring it to the end of the thread ...
Re: Apples battery design ... personally, I think it was a natural evolution choice for Apple from the iPod ... the iPhone was clearly based on the immensely successful iPod ... and the iPod has for years, had a built in battery that the user could not replace at home ... it's clearly a carry over from that ... Have we heard of these kinds of lawsuits over the iPod batteries? Or, mass failings of iPod batteries? No ... Again, I think Apple approached it from an iPod evolution standpoint.
To clear a BIG misunderstanding out there ... Apple doesn't require me to 'replace' my phone if the battery wears out, instead I would send it in for battery replacement, not have to buy a new phone.
Re; the limit to use AT&T only ... if we understand that the carrier has to have supporting infrastructure/programming/hardware/coverage etc to offer the functions capable on an iPhone, it makes sense that Apple would not endorse offering it thru carriers that would not be able to meet their standards, and long term goals of service. AT&Ts edge network, while not currently being the fastest thing out there, has the broadest national coverage and they've agreed to make improvements in cooperation with Apple longterm ... Apple has publicly stated they didn't want people to buy the phone only to then have their carrier not be able to make it work properly on their systems ... the PR result of the carriers lackings would ultimately - even if wrongfully - reflect negatively on Apple. See?
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