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By Stevie Smith Apr 18, 2007, 14:31 GMT
Mobile phones massacring honeybees?
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seriously people in canada have nothing else to do ?
put on the news they are talking about which pot hole is being fixed on which road. if not that its the weather. and now this ....
I am flabbergasted at the remarks by some of you stating the disappearance of the honeybees is a new problem. It was recognised more than 4 years ago. They have been trying to determine the cause since then.
For those of you who know so little I suggest you be the first to volunteer to pollinate the blossoms if you want to eat!
Oh yes! The polar ice caps are melting! Are the bees stinging the glaziers?
With the recent proliferation of cell phone, wireless internet, blackberry, in-car navigation systems, we have saturated the airwaves with electromagnetic radiation. Whether or not this is the single cause becomes an irrelevent argument. Many of the 'advances' of the last 50 years have all appearance of massive scale, uncontrolled 'experiments' with no control group.
In less than a century, humans have abandoned their place as a part of the natural world for the illusion that we can control and manipulate everything natural. We have managed to destroy most of the world's great forests, have decimated fish populations, are quickly depleting all the accessible mineral deposits, are diminishing the biological diversity of the planet and are causing significant climate change.
Perhaps it really is our destiny to turn this beautiful blue-green sphere into a lifeless ball of dirt. Great job. Keep up the good work.
For me I hope it is Cell phones causing this problem. I hate all cell phones and Black Berries. They are totally retarded. See a child walking across an interesection chatting on a cell phone has me laughing myself to death.
Sorry, this technology should only be used in an emergency. Why the hell would I want anyone to be able to find me at anytime anywhere??? It's idiotic to say the least.
There's a good reason to be skeptical of the scientific community because the list of variables is longer than can be imagined... everything from EM emissions from cellphones and other mobile devices to atmospheric pollutants, mites, viruses and I've even heard one about the poles of the Earth being overdue for a rotation which would completely screw them up as well.
But remember, scientists are still people who are eager for their 15 minutes of fame. They have every reason to bleat the horn and beat the drum if they have even the slightest bit of 'compelling evidence' because it means attention and attention equals more research dollars equals job security.
Whatever the cause, nobody seems to be paying attention to the remaining 10-30% of the unaffected hives? Why? What makes these bees so resillient that they can withstand whatever it is that's going wrong? Is CCD knocking on their door too or are they managing to fend it off?
Just like any disease, whatever the cause, there are always going to be some survivors and those that do survive will be the stronger for it. Darwin said something to the effect that 'it's not the strongest of species' that survive, but those most adaptive to change'. If some colonies can adapt, as I suspect, then they will eventually fill the void left by those who could not.
That being said, we're likely to see a very crappy harvest this year because the populations are so low. Now might be a good time to plant a garden.
This may just be part of the problem. You guys a few years ago, thought the environmental changes weren't man made. well???? the fact is that man is ruining the earth through technology, greed, and the well being of the economy. How long will it be before the gaping holes in the ozone affect humans....... oh wait it already
has. Cell phone use and the radiation involved is not overly studied, but the facts do lead us in the direction that its not good for us. Wake up WORLD the plant is dying and so is our food source.......next us???????
last fall was to wet for the bees to collect food for the winter..bees do not come out when its cool wet outside ..they dont like to get there wings wet ...no food they die
Seriously, must the word massacre come up to describe everything (referring to the title of this artical)? Hundreds of thousands of people get killed and it's a 'massacre'. Now bees get killed and that also is a 'massacre'. 33 people get murdered and that's a 'massacre'. Look up the word massacre... it refers to a MASS NUMBER OF PEOPLE.
Since all of the guys posting here are cell phone/bee experts, then these guys 'posing' as scientists must be wrong... right?
You know what... that thing with the world being round instead of flat, that must of happened overnight as well. Some times these findings just occur... eureka moments as it were. Penicillin was only mold on bread before that fateful day.
Give these scientists a break. Risking your reputation on something like this isn't done lightly. For those who are taking shots at this story due to lack of evidence, would you propose Google to post 5+ years of scientific data on each article? Would you read it all, or even understand the majority of it if they did?
Sorry if I offended anyone, but sticking your head in the sand with a 'That's not what my grand pappy told me' approach just isn't cutting it anymore.
Soon we will be living in a world flooded by the melted icecaps, with no ozone to protect you from the sun and no food to eat… maybe not though, what does a scientist know about natural science anyway.
The loss of bees is a concern. It seems to me that bees teach us alot about love. Perhaps they are disappearing because we've forgotten to love and care for all life. I'm sure cell phones have some influence in the disapearance of the bees too. Unfortunately its hard to 'see' where the radiation waves are. Perhaps other unseen forces like radio waves are also influencing the bees. Maybe the combination of it all is overwhelming them. Its certainly a better theory than that aliens are abducting them, (which might explain why the hives are left undisturbed).
As others have pointed out, the number of cell phones and towers has been increasing over the past ten years, along with other sources of microwave radiation, such as satellites and GPS (every square inch of the earth is now irradiated), WiFi, wireless internet, and radio-read electric meters, which always emit a microwave signal. Anyone who thinks we can just continue to increase the amount of radiation without any harmful effects either hasn't looked into it or doesn't want to know.
I like the whole 'love' theory, it just works.
For some less sensationalist reporting, read the Guardian:
'The study led by Jochen Kuhn put DECT phone base stations - like home cordless phones - inside two honeybee colonies, and left two others alone... Bees in one of the DECT-ed colonies didn't return 45 minutes after being set free 800 metres away, while the others were back by 35 minutes. Collapse? Not necessarily: no more measurements were taken after 45 minutes, so they might all have returned after then. (Perhaps they were out gathering pollen.)
'Our studies cannot indicate that electromagnetic radiation is a cause of CCD,' Kuhn said earlier this week.'
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