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By Stevie Smith Apr 13, 2007, 15:13 GMT
Apple iPhone causes delay to Leopard OS X
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Great news, hopefully it will be delayed a few years.
Apple maintains an image of OS X being just one operating system but in reality there has been Cheetah, Puma, Jaguar, Panther, and currently Tiger. Its true that they have wonderful eye candy but each time they release a new version of OS X it seems to getter bigger, more bloated and needs a more powerful Apple Mac to run it. Developers then have to try and catch up but many get left behind while users need to buy new software and drivers.
May Leopard rest a while so we can settle down with Tiger.
Excuse me, to that previous comment...you mean VISTA requires you to run a beefier operating system, right?
As far as I know you can install Tiger (10.4) on old, really old Macs.
Try installing VISTA on a computer older than 1 year.
Then we'll see who's full of bloatware and who needs more hardware.
you are right on Juan. Vista uses up way too much HD. anybody could see that just by reading the articles.
I'd have to agree with the above comment.
It's not feasible to run Vista on a 6 month old machine.
I've got a 5 year old mac that could handle tiger, just haven't bought it yet (probably won't).
Macs can do more with less (than windows).
Vista uses up way to much hard drive! An computer older than 1 year will need serious upgrades! Running Vista on a computer designed for XP will be like running XP on a computer designed for 98! Anyway, Leopard will be cool when it comes out (Apple used almost all roaring cats species already. Only lion remains. What what to once they've used all the names? Mac OS 11? hmmmmm...).
As if the iPhone has anything to do with the delay. The iPhone group and the OS group at Apple probably don't even talk to each other. The fact is, the OS is late, and Apple is doing what it does best -- spinning failure into marketing hype.
Hello,
The idea that Mac OS X is becoming more bloated is absolute rubbish. 10.4.9 runs better on my 7 year old than any previous edition. 10.2 was an absolute dog, I'm very happy with the latest version and will definitely upgrade as soon as it comes out.
7 year old Ibook Clamshell 466 with 320MB of RAM, and 6 Gig HD. Try and do that with Vista!
Was there ever a better signal to buy Apple stock?
I agree with one of the previous comments that Apple is psinning the OS delay to make it seem as if Iphone is delaying the release.
What rubbish!! There is no way that OS X resources can move to help Iphone team. I think apple's glory days are coming to an end. We seem to buy into their marketing crap easily. Their recent products have been a disaster.
IPhone sounds cool but I will see how many people like its touchscreen without any tactile response. and do not even mention that god awful Apple TV. Overpriced piece of junk.
They sell overpriced products and use the media hype to lure innocent victims.
Windows Vista Delay= Microsoft is a horrible company that can't do anything right
Mac OS delay= Oh, it's okay, we can wait, we have pictures of this cool new phone.
Not that Microsoft is even close to doing everything right, but I really wish there was a little more balance when Apple does the same thing.
'As if the iPhone has anything to do with the delay. The iPhone group and the OS group at Apple probably don't even talk to each other.'
Actually it does, the OS used on the iPhone is an alternate version of OS X, so they are connected. by what extend and how exactly I do not know..
If anyone here has ever worked for a software company, it's pretty common to push out software before it's ready and hope to patch it later. What's the rush, folks? Give Apple another six months to get it right.
I'm a long time PC user that is making the switch this year to avoid Vista altogether. The latest Windows is bloatware's crowning achievement, and I want nothing to do with it.
I see the spell of jobs always covers a lot of mac users eyes. lol
As someone commented, delays on vista = the end of microsoft and delays on this minor point upgrade of OSX is wonderful and shows Apple cares.
Vista was a big upgrade, this OSX is a minor one, a fact mac users always avoid.
Apple makes a big markup on its products, and a lot of mac users dont mind being ripped off as they are cool.
The IPhone is a risky step I think and no wonder apple putting all there weight behind that, there are so many awesome phones out there and Apple has to make normal man/woman in street buy the over priced iphone.
Of course when the phone is out you will have those that will always pay that price as they are under the mac spell.
But Apple has to convince the rest of us to buy it and as we are not under the jobs spell, I think this phone will drop in price quick, prob with a 5 year phone contract... ;-)
I have a G5 imac with 2 gig memory and it runs like a dog things like adobe.
Using that as a reason why Vista is crap because it wont run of some hardware from 7 years ago, shows how some users are just plain dumb.
But then windows/linux can dump there 7 year old computers as they did not pay the extra $1000's for them to look good. ;-)
I use windows, linux and mac and they are all good for certain things.
But 600 bucks whatever for a style phone that will scratch easy, no easy to change battery and old style camera quality.
You mac boys/girls are welcome to it and can talk it up as much as u like, it will flop.
Let's be fair...
1) Engineering resources from OS X can certainly help the iPhone schedule-- the iPhone OS is based on OS X, and if there were issues fairly deep down in the OS, who better to work on them? And even if that's not the problem, figure the developers of OS X are some of the best in the business, and pulling off a small number of people to work on some critical feature that gated the release of iPhone could easily hurt OS X.
2) Vista will run just fine on older hardware, even several years old, if you turn off the eye candy. Granted, without the eye candy I'm not sure why I'd move up, but... And hard drive space should be a non-issue-- at this point even 500GB drives are not much over $100. A year ago, maybe that was 200GB, but still, drives are HUGE. RAM is more likely to be the issue, but over the last few years 512MB has been a pretty normal PC configuration, and that should be plenty.
3) I do think Apple stock will take a hit over this for a quarter or so. I look at this as a possible buying opportunity. If I weren't so busy chasing other stocks that have been on my radar for longer, I'd buy some Apple in the next couple of months. In fact, maybe I should move it to the front of the queue...
Let's be fair...
1) Engineering resources from OS X can certainly help the iPhone schedule-- the iPhone OS is based on OS X, and if there were issues fairly deep down in the OS, who better to work on them? And even if that's not the problem, figure the developers of OS X are some of the best in the business, and pulling off a small number of people to work on some critical feature that gated the release of iPhone could easily hurt OS X.
2) Vista will run just fine on older hardware, even several years old, if you turn off the eye candy. Granted, without the eye candy I'm not sure why I'd move up, but... And hard drive space should be a non-issue-- at this point even 500GB drives are not much over $100. A year ago, maybe that was 200GB, but still, drives are HUGE. RAM is more likely to be the issue, but over the last few years 512MB has been a pretty normal PC configuration, and that should be plenty.
3) I do think Apple stock will take a hit over this for a quarter or so. I look at this as a possible buying opportunity. If I weren't so busy chasing other stocks that have been on my radar for longer, I'd buy some Apple in the next couple of months. In fact, maybe I should move it to the front of the queue...
4) One more thought: At least MS doesn't hit its users for a couple-hundred dollar OS upgrade once a year. Windows XP probably hasn't evolved as much as the Mac OS since the release of OS X, but for those of us who got it years ago, all the updates have been free...
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