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By Steve Ragan Jan 17, 2007, 19:04 GMT
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Yup, security on almost EVERY format is not safe. From game consoles to copy protected DVDs & Games. I even remember hearing about a Sony copy protection that cost millions of dollars only to be defeated by a 12 year old with a Sharpie marker!
Unfortunately for them there are millions of us and just a handful of them creating this copy protection.
At the end of the day, if it can be encrypted, it can also be decrypted. Common sense!
The people will always win!
What no studio seems to understand is if the Discs are priced reasonably - no one in their right mind would buy a pirated disc.
Case Study: T-Series a music company in India started selling Audio Cassettes for around 20Rs. (approx less than 50Cents)- the man made a killing in the market. It was around 50-80% of prevailing costs of other tapes in India.
If Studios were to release Discs for around the cost (or a little more)then Piracy would be automatically stamped out.
Spending millions of dollars in Encryption and then decryption in respective players - phew - think of all the money saved by just lowering the cost of the product!
Yep, they are shooting themselves in the foot in the long run. Lower prices now to reasonable rates i.e £5 a dvd movie, and people won't pirate. But they decide to hold on to their greedy profits, pump millions into naff anti piracy ads, pay their stars extortionate amounts, and millions into encryption technology. In the long run Piracy will become so NORMAL that whatever they do will probably be too late. Internet connections are getting faster and faster. Soon a 20Gb movie will be done in no time for most people.
Muslix64 i dont think did anything wrong, if i remember he paid for a HD-DVD, he paid for the the HD-DVD drive, he had a DVI Monitor and he had a graphics card the would support HD output. Thats where the problem came, he purchased everything he needed and the protection provented him from watching what he had legally paid for on equptment that was legally his, and noone seemed to want to help him, so he had to crack it to watch the film he paid for on the setup he paid for. Are they really saying that they are going to sue him for doing something he had to do to use what he paid for?
Very soon, you will find somebody selling 15 HD movies on a hard disk.
I only watch my movie once, unlike music which I listen hundreds of time, movies should be priced lower than music. If DVD movies can not legally downloaded for $1, who needs piracy!!
i agree! movie stars are far too overpaid, and spending all this money on copy protection is a waste of time. studios had years of video piracy before dvds came out, this should have been enough of a warning to them.
if we're being charged £6 to see a movie at the cinema, for the privilege of seeing it on the big screen with fancy sound and overpriced popcorn, why can't we pay a similar amount to see it in the comfort of our own homes? when a dvd is first released you're looking at paying £12 - £20 for it, and then a few months later the same dvd's will be in a sale or special offer, brand new, for a fiver.
the movie studios are so greedy, in my opinion they bring piracy upon themselves.
I'm just chucking at the comment I just read about 'Purchasing pirated videos' appearantley this person doesn't know what is really going on out there!
ROTFL!
just my 2p ..
I get very irked when forced to watch several minutes of anti-piracy stuff at the start of a DVD. It makes me want to get hold of a pirate version, just so I can skip this!
Movies cost huge amounts of money to make. The special effects fees in some movies approach all other costs combined. Yes, actors are overpaid, but that isnt about to change any time soon. Copy protection costs them a very small amount in comparison to some of the other expenses, and as long as the cracking programs or pre-cracked movies are not easy enough for the average non technical computer user to figure out, the movie industry should be happy with that.
Theres no way that you are going to stop piracy, for example, you can record a song off the radio and listen to it for free (at a very low playback quality though), with no need to crack any software, and the same goes for patching into sound and video data and recording it, and then distributing it. In most cases, that is easier than spending the time to crack the software or find a cracked version of the video that works already out there somewhere.
There needs to be some work done to lower the costs of movies, and i do not at all agree with the mandatory, unskippable couple of minutes on dvd's that you pay money to own. That is understandable in the theatres, because they want you to see a movie trailer that interests you so that you come back, or at least wait to buy it. Its in their best interests as they get paid for those advertisements and the more people that watch/buy the movies in the ads the more money those advertisers can afford to pay the theatres, etc.
Just dont hold your breath on any company executives or company lawyers grasping this concept any time soon however.
the size of the hd-dvd rips is irrelevant. Sooner or later, ISPs will upgrade to faster dsl/cable technologies that allow faster upload speeds. At that point, this piracy of hd-dvd's will become relative to 700mb Xvid files being downloaded.
One main problem is that the US Government says that encryption with a strnegth of greater than 64 bits cannot be exported.
Well, that limits all formats to a 64-bit encryption scheme, which is quite weak for today's standards.
On top of that, you'll ALWAYS have to have hardware to play the discs. Guess what happened to the Xbox? That's right, there actually ARE people who can log traces and get the raw data (and hence the decrpytion key).
Discs will ALWAYS be cracked -- ALWAYS. There is no point in even including any protection (except to piss people off apparently).
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