Glorious Portland is having her close up still as IFC's "Portlandia" continues to draw fans and NBC's "Grimm" dazzles brightly in a sea of stultifying network tripe.
Today at the Pasadena winter press tour (TCA) the ďGrimmĒ panel spoke of their rabid fanbase, their suspenseful storylines and unique storybook characters. M&C loves the show.
The panelists included Sasha Roiz, Bitsie Tulloch, David Giuntoli, Silas Weir Mitchell, Claire Coffee, Reggie Lee, Jim Kouf, David Greenwalt and Bree Turner.
An excerpt of the Q&A:
On why Renard kissed Juliette in the first place? Because he certainly seems unhappy about it, and Adalind seems very unhappy about it.
DAVID GREENWALT: He kissed her because he was afraid that without her he didnít know what was going to happen exactly. And he was afraid that without her, Nick might leave Portland and might leave the influence of Renard and go his merry way or he might even be destroyed by it in some way.
He didnít know that they were going to have those kinds of feelings for each other, no.
JIM KOUF: All he knew is he would save her life.
On what the producers think it would take to take ďGrimmĒ into to make it like a true breakout hit?
DAVID GREENWALT: Well, first of all, I thought it was a true breakout hit. Did I miss something? And second of all, I love the time slot. Itís the old ďX FilesĒ time slot Friday nights at 9:00. Itís a great time for that show. And by God, if weíre not a true breakout hit yet, we will become one soon.
On putting the Friday-night network curse to rest:
JIM KOUF: Well, I donít believe in curses so much. But as long as people find the show and they we found out a good core audience who believes in it and keeps watching. And if they donít watch it Friday night, they seem to watch it next Saturday.
On what is it about ďGrimmĒ specifically that has managed to stick out in that period where other shows maybe of similar tone havenít?
DAVID GREENWALT: Well, whatís kind of interesting about ďGrimmĒ to us is that itís a hybrid. Itís a police procedural, but then thereís this whole other world going on and this ability to explain in an odd and bizarre way crime.
For example, Nick can see the Big Bad Wolf in the child molester. Itís a way to explain evil in the world. And weíre going you know, thatís on sort of the micro level and weíre going to be going more and more to the macro level of whatís wrong with the entire world? Whatís going on, you know, with all the violence and upset everywhere in the world and seeking ways to explain it.
David Giuntoli, what are your favorite episodes to play, the sort of standalone monster of the week thing, the really emotional things, the arc things?
DAVID GIUNTOLI: No. I really enjoy the kind of deeper mythological episodes. I mean, I enjoy them all. But Iíve started to grow into really enjoying the larger kind of fight scenes. Those usually happen in kind of a more emotional episode anyhow. And, yeah, I like kind of learning the tricks of that. But I really do enjoy the kind of deeper, emotional episodes.
Reggie Lee, your character seems to be the only person on the panel, because Juliette looks poised to learn the big secret, who doesnít know whatís actually going on in this show. Does it make you feel left out or does it make you feel unique?
REGGIE LEE: Both of those things, both of those things. But thatís me, Reggie, speaking to you. As a character, this character has been so much fun for me to play and they canít come up with better lines for me every week. Itís really great. So on the larger scale, I donít think everyone can know what a certain all at once, otherwise you wouldnít if everyone knew, it wouldnít be as fun to watch, because thereís always that someone thatís on the outside.
Thatís me speaking as a character. But as Reggie, sure, I love I want to be a part of it. I always want to be a part of it. But I think on the grander scale of things, you know, I think that thereís certainly a plan for everybody. So weíll see what happens. Iím excited about it.
Bitsie...In Season 1, Juliette was a support system and very loving to Nick. And now Season 2, itís all over the place with obsession and magic and all the things that sheís going through with memory loss. As an actress, are you enjoying this season?
BITSIE TULLOCH: I think that there was a lot to be said for Season 1, because in Season 1, and actually still, Juliette was really the only character who isnít a cop and who wasnít a monster. So I always sort of approach the character as being the one through which the fans could see it from like a normal personís point of view. But this season has been so much more fun for me.
And now being under the spell and just being completely confused and really, like, she is starting to completely lose her mind, as I think anybody would, if you wake up from a coma and thereís some guy staring at you, saying that heís lived with you for three years and you go to your home that you remember and thereís photographs of you with somebody else.
And itís really trippy. And itís kind of fabulous. Like, I was reading this I know, Iím going to be such a geek. I was reading this Oliver Sacks book on prosopagnosia right when I got the first script, about, like, facial recognition and whatnot. And I just thought it was so interesting and fascinating and then they come up with this awesome storyline, so and now the stuff with the love triangle which is obviously very, very fun for me.
Jim and David, it looked from the clips that we just saw that there are going to be some reveals. But can you talk about Renard possibly ending up being an ally of Nick?
DAVID GREENWALT: Well, it depends whatís what service that Nick can perform for Renard. And heíd as soon have him as an ally. Heíd rather have him as an ally than an enemy, but he could have him either way.
JIM KOUF: Thereís some big issues that have to be dealt with for Renard and for Nick, and they have to come to terms with those.
DAVID GREENWALT: And this had to come to a head. We didnít want to just play it out forever between the two of them, because, you know, it is his girl that Renard is messing around with, albeit under a spell.
JIM KOUF: Not that he wants to.
Silas, talk about the dichotomy of the character and how you play it and how you just either revel in it or itís a struggle for you:
SILAS WEIR MITCHELL: As an actor or as Monroe?
Could you do both?
SILAS WEIR MITCHELL: Well, as an actor, itís a delight to have these two poles towards which you could go at any time, because thereís an element of the unknown where thereís the hermit like clockmaker and then thereís the guy who wants to run through the woods with his girlfriend and, you know, get down in the trees. You know what I mean?
So those two sides of a person, itís fun to have that at your disposal as an actor. As a character, itís much more troubling, because you have these two poles that you might yank, be yanked towards one way or the other. So the more difficult it is as a character, the more fun it is as an actor.
As far as the makeup process, truth of the matter is I donít do that much of the makeup because thereís not enough time in the day, because if I every time I morphed I had to do makeup, thatís about eight to 10 hours, because you got to put it on and then you got to take it off. So a lot of what they do for me is computer graphics. Every now and then, thereís some prosthetics, but itís too time consuming.
I feel like Iím having more fun than a guy should have. I really love this group. I love the stories that David and Jim and the writers are writing. I love the themes. I think theyíre really pertinent and theyíre handled in a very delightful way. Thereís dark, thereís light, thereís a gallows humor thanks to these guys. And weíre dealing with crime and real stuff. Thereís nothing I donít like about this situation.
JIM KOUF: And he gets to play the zither.
SILAS WEIR MITCHELL: And I learned the zither. I got it. I got it down. You ever seen one of those things? You donít get it down.
On how much more bitchy can Adalind get?
CLAIRE COFFEE: Oh, no, much bitchier is the answer to that. Bitchier beyond my wildest dreams, in fact. But my reaction was first sort of disbelief and then quickly followed by elation to get to do this role and with all these people was just the greatest. I know everybody says it, but I mean it for sure.
She doesnít much care what happened to her cat. Iíve been doing a lot of reading and research about psychopaths, because I think for Adalind, sheís just sheís fueled mostly by ambition and just, you know, you get one thing, you want the next thing. So she doesnít have a lot of friends, and so far I donít think sheís focused on that. I think sheís more focused on this kind of supreme this, like, supreme amount of power that she has in her mind.
SILAS WEIR MITCHELL: Psychopath or sociopath, do you think she is?
CLAIRE COFFEE: Actually, itís similar. Itís very, very similar. Theyíre both psycho, both psycho.
Sasha and David, what did you guys think about this sudden change in the relationship?
SASHA ROIZ: Itís been a long time coming.
DAVID GIUNTOLI: Yeah.
SASHA ROIZ: It was a long time coming. I was very excited to finally have a confrontation, I think we waited a season and a half to see what will transpire when he finally discovers, and itís going to be a powder keg. And itís a lot of fun to work with David on a whole other level now that heís in the know.
DAVID GIUNTOLI: Yeah. And our not to spoil it too much, but it finally all comes to a big angry
SASHA ROIZ: Kerfuffle.
DAVID GIUNTOLI: Yeah, kerfuffle weíll say, to resurrect a word. And, yeah, it comes to blows, and he has a bit of a height advantage on me, but I had a rage advantage on him.
SASHA ROIZ: Itís not noticeable. You had a beard advantage on me.
DAVID GIUNTOLI: Right now.
BITSIE TULLOCH: Yeah, I just want to say, the first episode back, which is on March 8th, after, obviously, the fall finale, thereís a tremendous amount of stuff going on. And in addition to the kerfuffle between these handsome men, there was also a sort of bedroom scene that was so intense that it required a stunt coordinator and hours of rehearsal, which ďGrimmĒ has not yet done, which is really, really fun and crazy.
On Fred Armisen's story during the Portlandia TCA panel that he tried to sneak on Grimm's set as an extra:
BITSIE TULLOCH: Hereís whatís so crazy. Within two days of moving up to Portland, Fred was my next-door neighbor in my apartment building. And then Timothy Hutton who was shooting on ďLeverageĒ was I saw him on the elevator. And I was like did I leave Hollywood? I mean, what is going on? So then Fred became friendly, and then he was saying, like, how funny would it be if thereís an episode of ďLeverageĒ with, like, Giuntoli and Fred in the background and then we do this big crossover? And I know ďPortlandiaĒ just got renewed for two more, so maybe thereís time.