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Isaiah Washington angered over 'Grey's' cast cut
By Stone Martindale Jun 9, 2007, 14:55 GMT
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Poor guy. What ever happened to freedom of speech? In America it should NOT be ok to punish people for their beliefs.
Yeah and can you IMAGINE if someone white had used the 'N' word what would have happened? They should have fired his @ss day one! What is good for one is good for all so wake the FCUK up!
I feel for Isaiah. Not only was he rebuked for expressing his opinion in what is an allegedly free country, but he now finds himself unemployed after trying his best to make amends. It seems Isaiah offended one too many homosexuals in Hollywood. His fate was sealed the minute he let his views on homsexuality -- a view shared by the bulk of the world -- be known.
Good riddance! His 'rehab' was obviously just an attempt to save his job. He repeatedly lied about what he did. His role was a privilege; it wasn't a right. If I did what he did at my job, I'd be fired too. He is entitled to all the freedom of speech he wants - in the unemployment line. If someone else on the cast used the 'N' word, do you think keeping them around would hurt group morale?
I agree with Mike M. As an African American, there should not be a double standard.
The freedom of speech that is afforded to American citizens extends only to Gonvernmental control. The Government cannot stifle free speech, this does not affect how a job acts. You cannot go into a job and cuss out the manager then scream 'free speech' just as you cannot expect to be in a position where public image is so important and cause waves.
Good riddance to him! I'm glad they fired his evil ass! He makes the rest of us look bad and not all black people are like him!
any sort of attitude towards homosexuality short of complete celebration of it is now a thought crime, and no punishment is too harsh. Washington found out the hard way, did his secular penance, and was thrown to the wolves anyway. Apparently some crimes are too harsh for any forgiveness, including dislike of male homosexuals. Too bad for him he didn't merely kill someone while driving drunk, or slip DHP to some coed - he would still probably be on the show today.
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David - VERY well said!
That show sucks big time & the brother there fireing was the best thing on the show the first thing these stuppid shows do is get the black public to watch by haveing one or two token blacks put them with whites or asian people not there own kind & then gets rid of them when the show gets big rascist hollywood & all the freaks in it can go to %^^&- & for that gay guy & the chick on the show that loves him soo much -as far as acting goes you couldnt hold the fired brothers water ....Come home my brother to your people & get out of that evil-rascist 'gay' freak of nature world --called holly- wood ...sick....&*&%%
The producers and ABC did the right thing in firing Isaiah. He was paid very well and expected to be a professional while at work. He failed to do it, so they did not renew his contract. This would have happened at any of thousands of private companies in the country. He should pick himself up and be a man and move on.
The only possible imbalance in justice I can see is that he should've been fired the same day that he used the f-word in reference to his co-worker. This is no different than if another co-worker had used the n-word in reference to Isaiah in public or at work. Anyway, his reaction to the non-renewal of his contract by saying 'I did everything they wanted', or something to that effect, proves that he was not sincere in his apparent efforts to be more sympathetic to others. It was a sham. Good riddance!! Buh-bye, Isaiah.
Enough with the token black statements and the 'he offended one too many gays.' Washington was an arrogant bastard who did not know how to socialize with those he thought were beneath his talents. Guess what, jerks come in all shapes, colors and (Rosie) sexual orientations. No amount of counseling can cure it. You either put up with it, stand up to it, or fire his premier ass.
If they wanted to fire him, they would have done it from the very beginning, instead they helped him humiliate himself by going to rehab and then fire him. And lets face it, Him and Sandra Oh, are the best things on that show, so frankly they have already lost a major portion of their fans.
And to the African American, that equate the word N#gg and F, let me educate you. The N word is a curse to the black person and his generation that defines him and his children as being the lowest form of human existence. From the time the word existed, it has been used to refer to anyone as a lower form of human existence. The F word, in the 70's was used as another form of the word gay, then during the Eminem era, it was recognized as a hate word, just like me calling you a retard, which also is offensive.
Now that has been said, I believe ABC should have fired him immediately he confessed he said the word, but they shouldn't have made him humiliate himself, just to fire him at the end. And frankly, T.R Knight is a mean hearted human being, he could have forgiven him like Patrick Dempsy and let him come out being the bigger man, instead he just proved, how a little success can show anyone's ugliness. By ugliness, I am referring to both T.R Knight and Isaiah.
I am not watching Grey's anatomy anymore
Wow...some of the comments I've seen on this page amaze me. I could have sworn we were in the 21st Century! The 'bulk' of America feel the same way about gays that Isiah does...so that makes it right to use slander, and degrading words on the air? On a Mic? In front of reporters? The other posters are right, if any of the White or Non-African descent people had used the N word, none of this would be an issue and the Black community would be calling for their heads. I also love the double standard with Mr. 'Black Man in America' and his comments. Let's not put down the black man...but F all those 'gays' and wierdo Hollywood types. Hypocritical much? It's okay to talk down about gays, but not about blacks? What makes you so special? You think you're the ONLY group in America who's been persecuted? Go back and read a book...you're not alone.
Our household stopped watch Grey's Anatomy back when this engineered incident occurred and won't watch it until the homosexual is gotten rid of and his idol worshipping supporter Ms. Heigle is also terminated. I guess we should have contacted the shows sponsors back then because we saw this comming; won't hold back next time.
J in LA - GREAT point and VERY WELL said!
Michael
Call a Spade a Spade and a Fag a Fag. I mean it's OKAY when gays call each other Fags in jest or even in anger but not okay for anyone else. WELL EXCUSE MEEEEE. But if the shoe fits WEAR IT!
MiladyM,
Not sure if you're a female or not, but if so, your logic implies that I can use the notorious 'c-word' on any woman I please, as well. Thank you for the clarification.
I believe if someone apologizes for something they did wrong, you either forgive and forget at that point or, you take your action immediately. The show producers didn't Fire Isaiah immediately because they wanted to use him to finish up the season, then they axed him.
What we know for sure is, Isaiah wasn't as friendly as T.R Knight on the set, but when he was backed to the wall, he went to rehab, made public announcment and allowed the whole world to make him become a homophobe for a word he didn't directly use on T.R Knight, he just answered a question he was asked. And from what I know, he hasn't admitted initially saying it, with his fight with Dempsey.
Dempsey, on the other hand who was physically abused, had a beautiful heart to let the situation go, after he was approached for forgiveness. Unlike T.R Knight, who for now, happens to be the crueliest gay guy I have ever known, who went to every media and continued helping promote Isaiah being fired, forgetting that before Grey's Anatomy, nobody knew his name. And there was his BFF Katherine Heigl, who only decided to mention that Isaiah, apologized to her, when she was promoting her movie. In my opinion, T.R Knight is a mean hearted creature and I hope he helps get everyone fired and have the whole show about him. For me, I am thru with the show
People always want to compare someone's sexual preferance to racial comments. I think it's very absurd, you can hide who you want to have sex with not your skin color.
To Bob in Houston...Oh Honey you can call me 'Cuddles' anytime...lol! And yes the last time I checked I was a women...born that way...No sex changed needed Thank you very much.
The problem with celebrities is that they don't know when to keep their mouths shut. They should realize by now that everything they say might be publicizied, yet they keep at it. The same goes for polititians. Think what you want, but keep a muggle on and get smart!
Whoever thought it was realistic to have a head surgeon who was black, anyway? And an Asian woman marrying a black? LOL. We want children who know how to engineer automobiles, not hotwire and steal them.
He should have been fired. Regardless of anyone's belief system, it is never acceptable to shout demeaning slurs at your co-works in ANY kind of professional environment. It is totally unprofessional and if the same thing would've taken place in any other respectable workplace, the same thing would likely have happened.
Now all that needs to be done is for Radio One to fire that Racist Rabble Rouser Al (The Mouth) Sharpton.
isaiah should have been fired when this incident happend, but the network needed him to stay until the end of season 3 for storyline purposes. it's nobody else's fault but his for what happened to him. if a person is fired for making racist remarks, then a person should be fired for making homophobic remarks too.
Bye Bye... You won't be missed. In the end, you reap what you sow.
When will people learn to celebrate diversity and accept people for who they are?
good riddance.
free speech has nothing to do with this; his continued employment was contingent upon keeping up relations with his bosses and co-workers, and, as he is a public figure, the public. he did not do that--many of his co-workers expressed their anger over his comments and the public, rightly, was outraged.
to whoever commented that his view is held by 'the bulk of the world', what exactly are you saying? homosexuality is not accepted by many people, true, but civilized people learn by the time they're 5 that derogatory terms are wrong...and the word he used does not simply express his lack of acceptance but rather his un-checked hatred for a group that, like it or not, is here to stay. happy he's gone.
Initially I though this was a professional thing, but now I am so positive that gay people like Kumiko and Al, are probably the type of closet racist who made the guy blow up. Listen to these people, saying a black man can't be a head doctor, blacks are known for hotwiring and al sharpton is a racist because he speaks out about people like you. Make no mistake of it, you are both racist, and if you're gay, then the two of you are gay racists. And make no mistake, gay guys are also racist, and I am sure T.R Knight would be proud of the two of you
Al,
I'm not gay, but I'm sure a lot more comfortable around gay people than black people. If I see a bunch of gay guys or lesbians under a light pole on a city street at 2:00 AM while walking to my car, I'm one hell of a lot less scared than if I see a bunch of black men in the same situation. Can you tell me why? Even a rich black ex-athelete got away with murder in 1994 and you KNOW it's true, too, blood.
I do feel for Isiah because the producers did take a long time to decide his fate, action should have been taken swiftly if it was to be taken. Isiah was probably thinking his job was safe.
As far as the comment went however, language like that can be extremely offensive to people, and Isiah should have been aware of this when speakin in a doman that was most certainly going to become public. There was NO need for the comment, and all it did was undermine and insult his co-star. A complete celebration of homosexuality is not needed, but this sort of abraisivness is not needed
Kumiko,
I wonder what you do for a living, because if I was your boss, I would fire your racist ass. You are a stereotypical racist who is generalizing about black people. If I saw you on one side of the street at 2 am and a group of black men on the other side of the street I would feel safer with the black guys. You are what's wrong with America. The only difference between you and Isiah Washington is that you may still have a job.
I am so sick of people on here talking about that it is freedom of speech. you do not call a fellow person a faggot. it is wrong and his ass ahould have got fired a long time ago. there is a difference between freedom of speech and a homophobic comment. he is a gay basher by calling that poor guy a fag. thank god he is fired. so long you loser
Isaiah is supposed to be a homophobe. Yet, his children have play dates with melissa etheridge's kid. And does who dont know, melissa etheridge is gay. For me, if someone says something in anger, it shouldn't be something that defines a man. I was with a friend of mine and he got pissed off by his boss, and he used the N word in anger, in front of me, without even knowing he used it. Does that make him a racist or someone who spoke in anger. I've known him all my life and I know he is no racist.
Unlike Kumiko, who first believes that black men are incapable of being surgeons and when black people are in a group, they are a potential threat. He choses to ignore Philip Emeagwali, who was one of the fathers on the internet. Mark Dean , (scientist,computer processor, one of original IBM inventors)
James Edward Maceo West, (invented the foil-electret microphone) . Frankly, its pointless educating a racist.
What we have in life is selective choice of where to direct our rage. Take Anthony, who doesn't seem to have a problem with Kumiko's racist rampage, but he chooses to be so offended by Isaiah uttering the word fa**ot, in rage, to someone who wasn't gay.
A
F** is a hateful word, and cannot be justified EVER.
As was mentioned earlier, everyone believes in free speech unless they disagree...
If it had been a racial comment, he would have been fired immediately, such as was the case with Don Imus. Homosexuals are one of the last groups that can be joked about and actually can be 'punished' by death and certain 'god fearing folks' think it is just dandy. They pick and choose their morality from the Bible or whatever their written moral road map may be, while living the life they choose, want to dictate the life others should live. You can't have it both ways. It is a PAID JOB. If you are a PR nightmare, you are gone. Stop Whining!
Token Black Guy? Are you serious? Three of the most important characters in this show are black. The Chief of Medicine, Head Resident (female) and Isaiah Washingtons character Dr. Preston Burke who, in the show, is one of the top heart surgeons in the world. Black man in america... you need to know what you are talking about before you open your mouth. Oh, did I mention the show was created and written by a Black Woman? No? Didn't mention that yet huh, well it is. Get your crap straight dude. Mr. Washington was fired for being intollerant and hateful. His beliefs are what got him fired, not the color of his skin. And to explain it more, his words expressing his hatred and intollerance toward 'Faggots' are what got him fired. I just wonder how they are going to go on without him because in the season finale there was a bit of a cliff hanger between him and Sandra Oh.
Give me a break, had it been a bigoted comment about any other minority he would have been fired even faster. And to correct you all, it wasn't the first use of the word fag that got him fired, it was the second time he used it right in front of all his costars and all the supposed counseling that got him axed.
Regardless of whether or not the majority of the world agrees with Isiah's view on gays, the fair and un-prejudice minorty still fights the bigotry of the majority.
I agree that we do have freedom of speech, but your comments do have consequences. Mr. Washington comments were very unprofessional and he should not be allowed to create a hostile work environment where his co workers should have to be uncomfortable. He is not new to Hollywood, he is an established actor and should have known better. His later comment made after his firing make it apparent that he did not truly mean his apology to the gay community.
It's just another case of a celebrity spouting off before they think. Politicians are in the same boat. Why people in the public eye can't seem to get it across that anything they say could and will be printed, so they better wise up or they'll obviously suffer the consequences.
His views aren't shared by 'the bulk of the world' - unless you mean the 'underworld'!
I understand that he tried to 'fix things' but it simply was not enough.
I am an African-American woman who was raised not to care if people were gay, straight, orange, striped, etc... If I were gay and a co-worker called me a derogatory name, I would expect them to be let go - no matter how many PSAs or counseling sessions they attended.
And for all of the other African-Americans who are saying this was a wrong decision - think about if T.R. Knight had called Washington a n***er. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson (who are NOT the spokesmen for us - can't stand it when they take up random causes) would be up in arms.
Being a black straight woman I truly believe that you have to suffer the consequences of your actions. I would find it unacceptable for a white person to call me a N****r so of course I feel for T.R. Knight and any other homosexuals. Don Imus was fired after saying Nappy headed hoes! so why shouldn't he be fired after not saying it once but twice in a public area. I am pissed because he turned my view of him and the positive black character on my favorite show into a negative perception of what a human being should be like. Yes we can forgive but after making a total fool of yourself by showing your true ignorance, I say 'I will miss the character but you have to reap what you sow!
Dear Jane,
At least I can spell Isaiah's name: I-S-A-I-A-H. If you would stop munching friend chicken and slobbering into watermelon long enough, you might be able to, as well.
Now, put your tiki torches out, stop beating the drums and get some well earned sleep.
Kumiko in A Far Distant, Idyllic Place (With a job!)
TO KUMIKO LEE
FRIEND chicken huh? not living up to the stereotype that white people place on asians I see. MIGHT I SUGGEST GETTING YOUR GED BECAUSE CLEARLY YOU CLEARLY YOU CANNOT EVEN SPELL FRIED CHICKEN CORRECTLY.
'I feel for Isaiah. Not only was he rebuked for expressing his opinion in what is an allegedly free country, but he now finds himself unemployed after trying his best to make amends. It seems Isaiah offended one too many homosexuals in Hollywood. His fate was sealed the minute he let his views on homsexuality -- a view shared by the bulk of the world -- be known.'
???
He called his coworker a fag and outed him nationally.
He was a bigot. He was not professional. He was stupid.
He deserved it.
Look,
I do not agree that we should go around calling others names, My comments were said with my tongue planted firmly in cheek. But there is also some truth in what I have said. When one is made to suppress their true feelings they become a dangerous snake in the grass. I for one would rather know a persons feelings then to have them kept under wraps. It's been said that Mr. Washington has always been a hothead. I don't think he much cares for gay people, but I don't think he's necessaryly a 'Homophobe.' To me that would mean he would want a person whom is gay to be harmed....One can dislike another's life,background or even hair color and not 'Hate them.'
So being im white, if i made racial slurs against BLACKS, like he did against Gays,,,you KNOW i would be fired, and crucified as well. Good thing he is fired. So when is sharpton getting involved?
i would be interested to see if Al Sharpton could put a spin on this one.
It is a free country but in a place of business (yes, acting is a job) there are certain rules and guidelines to follow. He did not follow them. Who knows - maybe it is more than the F-word. Supposedly, he had been difficult in other situations on set as well. He will be fine.
I am glad this happened. Somewhat. I had to watch the show with my girlfriend, and she is devastated by this. But look at in terms of discrimination. If someone on the show used the N word and it offended Washington like that, that person would be fired so quickly they wouldn't even have to use a story. And everyone would be behind them. Look at Micheal richards- he made a mistake, but that doesn't change that it happened. As a result, he can't perform at the Laugh Factory again. Yes. Washington made a mistake, and yes, I'm sure he is truly sorry, but EVERYTHING has consequences.
That was a good thing for isiah you can`t say you call him evil for using the word faggot the faggots is the ones that are evil a bunch of sticks the moral decline and the destruction of America continues hollywood promoting homosexuals lifestyles GOD will destroy you homos your life will be shortened for being gay there will be no reward for you in the kingdom of God the fire of god will reign down and destroy you if you don`t repent.I Hope God takes away all your money and see how gay you`ll be then.WOE TO THOSE THAT CALL GOOD EVIL AND EVIL GOOD.
Now, if they will just write the whiney Asian drama queen out of the script, I MIGHT watch it once in a while. I only watch any way to catch a glimpse of Izzy or the red-haired doctor.
Freedom of speech doesn't extend to your employer. Man some of you people are stupid.
I spoke to him earlier. He was like, 'Gays are awesome, hey look at the douchebag four or five posts above you haha'
I really get tired of the fringe weirdo population trying to force the rest of us to believe they are normal.::It ain't gonna happen Brucie'''
There is a large group among the media types that thing they have the right to force their weird ideas on the general population, just because they have the outlet to do so.
I say rebel against it, boycott their shows and force them to take notice of the normal folks.
i'm glad to see this minority pc bs starting to work both ways. course it isn't equal yet, maybe in a couple hundred years. then we can flip it around and say we have been oppressed, give us reparations yada yada...
i think it is horrible, he should of not gotten fired i will no longer watch the stupid A' show. just cause he said faggot. what happened to freedom of speech, they cannot replace him with anyone, no one can fill his shoes, no one.
Sharpton can't get involved right now, isn't he busy with the Paris case?
I think he was getting a $400 hair wave with John Edwards and couldn't get involved
maybe it is time for his 3000 mile flush and fill.
I just like to rile up the African-Americans! 'Theys so easy to get riled up!'
Remember, opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks!
Kumiko Lee is a real piece of work! With a name like that your eyes are surely slanted - so who are you to be so racist!
Personally, I was offended when Washington concealed his true beliefs that homosexuality is repugnant. I realize that he capitulated because he wanted to save his job and career, but at some point one has to stand up for what one believes regardless of the consequences.
Why would a man desire another man over a woman. If this is not unnatural and sick, I do not know what is. It is abnormal and no amount of gay programming will change that fact.
100% correct
Ben,
When was the last time you saw a piece on the TV news about a destitute Asian-American family with 5 kids requesting public assistance versus seeing a destitute African-American family with 5 kids requesting public assistance? Hmm?
We Asians work HARD, teach our children to read and study and, occasionally, get tired of being called racist because we complain about people of other ethnic backgrounds who complain, whine, fight and break windows at 3:00 AM for lack of anything better to do.
Thank You White Republican I couldn't of said it Better. I wish that we all would remember that God gave his only begotten son, so that we could have everlasting life.
Whatever happen to the days when we kept homosexuality in the closet. Those are the days I long for, when if your into having sex with men you keep it to yourself. You keep your behavior and your way of life way back in the closet, and where in the hell to people get off comparing this behavior with the African-American struggle in this country. I am mindful of the extreme cases of hate against those who practice homosexuality, but in comparison with what has happen to blacks. Please, stop.
i think some of us are just happy to see a brother get slammed for saying something off the cuff. gettin' fired, just like Imus.
kumi lee,
You sound like a desperate asian...begging for attention...i know the media ignores you guys alot,,(almost like you don't exist or someting),,isaiah..dude..be grateful you got fired,,now you dont have to make out with that ugly asian chick,,and that show is almost done anyways(one more year)you saw what happened to (lost) after they killed off the black dude ratings dropped now its getting canlcelled,,guess ABC didnt learn their lesson.well,maybe they did cause they used you to the last minute..all to all the gays in here don't be too happy,,abc didnt consider you important enough to fire isaiah immediately,,so really iwould be offended more about that..
P,S T.r knight is such a b.. , he has lived up to the exact word isiah called him..my God..lol
the dude did everything but sleep with himm,,,,maybe that is what he wants..hollywood...wiedos..
I have nothing against gays, in fact 60% of my pals are gays, but I have to say that gay or not, TR Knight is just mean! On and off-screen, he makes me sick! All my friends and family won't be watching Grey's anymore. The only thing going for the show was the chemistry between Burke and Yang.
Fagg*t
Fa**ot
F*ggot
*aggot
Faggo*
Anyway you put it, it's still the same - it's wrong.
God will punish you.
And T R Knight's friend, Katherine Heigl is one dumb biatch. you kknow what's funny? When both of em get it on, Heigl uses a strap-on on Knight...
And now Mr. Washington is saying 'They fired the wrong guy', calling himself a victim just like 'Paul Robeson and Malcolm X'. He just doesn't get it...and frankly, he's not fit to compare himself to Robeson and Malcom X. Gimme a break.
it's not about race or bigotry or any of that. He publicly made it known that he hates the gays. A queer plays one of the key roles on the show.
The producers of the show obviously have a gay on the staff. So they BLACK BALLED him. ( get it ? )
TV is all about queers and jews and left wingers these days. Sadly he is the minority in this one but not for the reasons he claims.
1) A person's sexual orientation is not equal to his/her ethnicity. Therefore, using the 'n' word is not equivalent to using the 'f' word, though both are hurtful terms. If you think the two are equal, then this proves that you are a racist; even the ignorant black people that decided to be sheep and side with the ignorant people that compared the two words. All the ignorant people that compared the two should be pushed in front of a bus. Why you say? It is because it is not immoral to have a disapproving opinion of someone's sexual orientation. It is, however, immoral to be prejudice against someone for their ethnicity. Both opinions should never be expressed at one's workplace, however. Isaiah was wrong but he shouldn't be compared to a racist.
2) All of you know that if a white guy called someone the 'f' word on the set, he wouldn't be fired. Hollywood, like so many other parts of America, has a much lower tolerance for black people that make mistakes than they do for Caucasians who do so. I am so tired of people making it seem like the gay guy was such a poor victim--as if he had never been called the 'f' word before. He is such a loser cry-baby who needs to grow some balls and stop sucking on them!!!
True. Racism can never be compared to any sort of bigotry. The AfterElton site happily gave the gays grist for the mill, by asking that ridiculous (seemingly loaded) question...........what if the N-word had been used ...is not the use of F-word just as bad ??
All of them, the media and gays and esp. racists and racist gays being the most rabid......jumped onto the bandwagon. Since AfterElton.com every-biased-one has just been parroting the same meaningless drivel endlessly.
The very people who are denouncing the use of the F-word by comparing it to the N-word ..are the most hate-filled racists ever.........and I do not know how the innocent or ignorant or naive people have not noticed how manipulatively it is being used. I am sure number-wise it is the racial minorities outnumber gays. So if the heart of America bleeds for minorities then why don't they and the media ...support the huge issue of racism. All they do is focus on, magnify and mollycoddle the gays. Are they the priority among minority issues ?
The gays piggy-back on the N-word to further their own cause......whch includes racism. This crazy twisted ways and reasoning they have used is both scary and sickening. N and F words are not and never will be the same. Trivialising racism like that is the work of the racists. The minorities that suffer racism should have made a far greater hue and cry than TRK ever did at this gross misuse and injustice. This manipulation of everyone in America, through media, is extreme. People are BORN into their race. The question of sexual orientation does not even( or at least should not) arise until puberty has been reached.
Where is the comparison ?????? It is a paradoxical argument used by the racists to use the N-word as a comparison in order to subject people like IW to racism in a very twisted way actually.
TY to AfterElton.com for being so simplistically manipulative. They been so clever that you even have the blacks apologising for IW. How clever. Also, how media converted a non-homophobe into one by brainwashing on and on, until the poor man himself had to act like he beleived he was one. Wow.
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