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May 12, 2009, 18:02 GMT
Britain launches pioneering large-scale wind farm project
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Well, on the face of it this seems like good news. So of course it isn’t. The trouble lies in the limitations of wind powered generation itself. Firstly, The power of moving air is proportional to the cube of its frequently changing velocity. Halve the windspeed and maximum potential power input reduces eightfold; and wind turbines are able to harness only a fraction of the available power anyway. This is why Wind turbines are so susceptible to windspeed changes.
In practical terms, a turbine running at near 100% rated capacity in an approx 30mph blow drops to under half of that if the windspeed reduces by a third. On average, given our weather, with everything from howling gales too high for them to operate at all, down to light airs and flat calms when they don’t work anyway, their output has been assessed at anything between 15% and 35% of their rated capacity. “ Big wind” evaluations in Europe assess the figure at approx. 25%: The UK Government expects 30% for off-shore wind. Air densities over the sea are higher than ashore.
Let’s be generous and assume they’re right. Even the increased future wind speeds predicted for southern England imply a ceiling of between 10% and 15% of our total requirements for wind generated electricity (See Sharman, Proceedings of Nov 2005). The currently planned offshore windfarms have a total rated capacity of 33GW. In fact, about 10GW average is the most we can expect from them.
It gets worse. The wind does not blow conveniently at times of peak demand. Not even in a British winter. Electricity suppliers like EON have stated that they will need over 90% back-up in the form of more reliable power generation in order to be sure of meeting demand.
The final problem, as usual, is cost. Not only is the projected cost of build, currently at around £66 billion, enormous, but through life maintenance costs of the entire infrastructure are high compared to existing types of power and the working life of the turbines is assessed at only 20 years or so. Even the huge quoted build cost excludes the additional system of cables, substations, etc that will have to be specially constructed to bring the power onshore and distribute it through the grid. Based on build costs, and estimated actual, as opposed to rated capacity assessments of the true price of wind generated electricity have been as high as £14m/MW.
Compare all this to Nuclear power, another carbon neutral form of electricity generation. The Nuclear option is itself expensive, yet Nuclear plant can produce power at levels above 95% of rated capacity. Recent projected rises in the costs of nuclear build, which is estimated at £4.8bn for a 1.6GW reactor would imply, assuming no more than around 1.4GW per hour as average output, a cost of around £4.20m/MW. (business.timesonline.co.uk)
The other problems associated with wind are absent too. Nuclear is reliable. Output can be increased or decreased rapidly to meet peaks and troughs in demand. Plant constructed on existing sites would have some of the required infrastructure already in place. Maintenance costs are lower. The service life is at least twice as long. The money that has to be set aside for decommissioning is currently about £0.50/MWh, or just over £6million a year for the 1.6GW reactor cited above. Much of the storage currently taking place is associated with the weapons industry, and modern reactors produce far less waste than earlier ones anyway. As a percentage of total costs it is miniscule. In fact, the true overall cost of wind generators has been estimated at 4 to 6 times greater than that for nuclear plant.
There is another option too. Britain is an island and the tide, with one of the higher ranges on earth, comes in and goes out twice a day. Tidal power is far dearer than either wind or nuclear to develop, but combines the advantages of both, without either’s perceived drawbacks. Projects like a Severn Estuary or Morecambe Bay barrage would be years in completing and require immense amounts of capital, but once in place would supply enormous power reliably and without generating dangerous waste to upset stupid Guardian readers. Like the nuclear option, the government has ducked it, so we’re set to have thousands of bloody windmills put up round our coast. As my “informed source” put it: “Would you buy a Kettle if it took three times as long to make the tea as advertised, only worked an average one day in two, and you couldn’t tell in advance when that would be anyway?”
Keep researching, keep brainstorming, keep together in your quest to develop cleaner, renewable energy. Let a country's people have the option to vote for the energy options that are presented to them. May we head into the future with the knowledge, insight, and wisdom that propels us into more sustainable, and job fulfilled tomorrows.
Whatever happended to dr judah ben hur and his tesla project?
Is TESLA wind powered? Or is Judah?
WOT? NO TONNY?
This will solve nothing, the world should share all of its power. Right, SP4 dimwit, or is that witdim?
Should have said I was the 'Cloned Tonny'.
There you go again Tonny, you suck up libber. Forgive me Tonny I'm losin' it, I feel sorry for you (not), shoot, why don't we just monopolize the market? We could be partners.
I'll do you one better, my conservative arch rival, I'll split the farm profits with you: Me: 70% You: 20% The Rest of The World: 10%. What say you, SP4 the evermore bore?
I'm writeless. ...flash, the capital gains is a killin' us...that ain't nothin' pardner, some of the dang money gots to go to charity...Wha...suppose we has ta support the needy...shame it ain't so...oh heck...
Egads! brother, your neo-blab is what we all expect. Thanks for not disappointing us once again. Please, don't give me a home where the SP4 roam. Why not come visit me and spend all your petty cash so we can have more work, my deleterious friend?
More power to ya.
ROFLMAO
ahh...yes once the earth goes green....guess what, global cooling...LOL.
cities themselves generate massive amounts of heat, once eliminated from the earthly equation....drops of 5 degrees or more in winter...yep...i am sure the people will love that.
I think the best soloution for a world that must cut it's carbon emissions or die is to supply factories with their own wind farm and let the factories or offices only work only when the wind can develop enough power to supply it?
The trouble lies in the limitations of wind powered generation itself.---
whahahahahahaha.. the wind is ever a same. build costefective mills and generators.
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