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Bali high drama - then the warming conference finds its cool
Dec 15, 2007, 14:50 GMT
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I do not trust the reporting on this event. Truth to tell, I seldom trust the reporting on anything, but the writing about this one is so muddled that it is almost laughable. It is too bad C-Span was not invited along to cover this event. At least that way we would have had a good view of what happened publicly.
Why did they hold in a warm area?
What has come out of Bali is a 'Plan A' that is going to take forever to work out that very likely prove unworkable in real terms. Whatever comes out in the end will prove costly in the extreme and an utter failure in the end.
Where's your Plan B? If the IPCC is right, and the majority on these boards insist that it is, the consequences of failure will be fatal. Where is your Plan B? Plan A ain't gonna fly.
Climate change is normal and will occur again. Many have been mislead by the false god al gore and the drive by media. The impending ice age will be worse than any warming. How about plan c?...Global warming is a hoax, now what?
10 Dec 07 - As much of the U.S. is being blasted by vicious ice storms, a blockbuster report published in a prestigious scientific journal insists that climate warming is both natural and unstoppable and that carbon dioxide (CO2) is not a pollutant.
Writing in the International Journal of Climatology of a publication of Britain's Royal Meteorological Society, professor David H. Douglass (of the University of Rochester), professor John R. Christy (of the University of Alabama), Benjamin D. Pearson and professor S. Fred Singer (of the University of Virginia) report that observed patterns of temperature changes over the last 30 years disagree with what greenhouse models predict and can better be explained by natural factors, such as solar variability.
The conclusion is that climate change is 'unstoppable' and cannot be affected or modified by controlling the emission of greenhouse gases, such as CO2, as is proposed in current legislation.
According to Dr. Douglass: 'The observed pattern of warming, comparing surface and atmospheric temperature trends, does not show the characteristic fingerprint associated with greenhouse warming. The inescapable conclusion is that the human contribution is not significant and that observed increases in carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases make only a negligible contribution to climate warming.'
According to Dr. John Christy, 'satellite data and independent balloon data agree that the atmospheric warming trends do not exceed those of the surface,' while greenhouse models 'demand that atmospheric trend values be two to three times greater.'
Dr. S. Fred Singer said: 'The current warming trend is simply part of a natural cycle of climate warming and cooling that has been seen in ice cores, deep-sea sediments, stalagmites ... and published in hundreds of papers in peer-reviewed journals.
How these cyclical climate take place is still unknown, but they 'are most likely caused by variations in the solar wind and associated magnetic fields that affect the flux of cosmic rays incident on cloudiness, and thereby control the amount of sunlight reaching the earth's surface and thus the climate.'
Singer said at a recent National Press Club meeting in Washington that there is still no definite proof that humans can produce climate change.
It's a very well known and well used ploy to keep forewarding more and more outlandish theories about global warming and then defy anybody to prove them wrong.
What was that 'natural cycles' 'solar wind' etc, have you got any more?
Soon we will here that Global warming will cause more snow at ski areas.
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