The Senate bail-out vote tally, complete list
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By April MacIntyre Oct 2, 2008, 2:36 GMT
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Please let me know when is time to re-elect new senators..
senator Burr your ass is grass..
In response to Richard McDonough and the rest of you who prefer socialism! If you really want the government doing everything for you, go live in a socialistic country. The rest of us prefer freedom of choice, the very basis of our constitution. If you prefer to eventually pay 70% of your income to the country so they can pay for these social programs then leave!!!!! Let us true Americans get this country back to the way it was and should be!!!!
This is so ridiculous. We the people of this once great nation need to take it back. These few with the big bucks are running our lives. We can think for ourselves and they need to know that they need to listen. I am so sick and tired of our gov't being a joke. They are a bunch of rich people who look out for themselves. And though I will vote for Obama it is not because I want to. He is just the lesser of two evils. The best thing for this country is to get rid of the 2 party system!! It has just turned into a popularity contest and say anything to get voted into office. This is our govt NOT a beauty contest- not a contest at all. I am ashamed of Hillary and Chuck. How dare you? Just because we live in NY!!!! Come on. Everyone is feeling this. This is not the way. Why aren't they looking at other ways to 'bail' us out. We are strong people. We need to NOT pass this vote and pull together in our communities and on a smaller scale. Stop listening to the media. They filter. They don't tell the whole story just as our so called representatives keep us in the dark. Let the high paid people who loaned the money take from there own money and reinvest. It's not a brainbuster here people. We're already in trouble and this is not the solution. Let's find another way!! PLEASE!
This is so ridiculous. We the people of this once great nation need to take it back. These few with the big bucks are running our lives. We can think for ourselves and they need to know that they need to listen. I am so sick and tired of our gov't being a joke. They are a bunch of rich people who look out for themselves. And though I will vote for Obama it is not because I want to. He is just the lesser of two evils. The best thing for this country is to get rid of the 2 party system!! It has just turned into a popularity contest and say anything to get voted into office. This is our govt NOT a beauty contest- not a contest at all. I am ashamed of Hillary and Chuck. How dare you? Just because we live in NY!!!! Come on. Everyone is feeling this. This is not the way. Why aren't they looking at other ways to 'bail' us out. We are strong people. We need to not pass this vote and pull together in our communities and on a smaller scale. Stop listening to the media. They filter. They don't tell the whole story just as our so called representatives keep us in the dark. Let the high paid people who loaned the money take from there own money and reinvest. It's not a brainbuster here people. We're already in trouble and this is not the solution. Let's find another way!! PLEASE!
why are my comments not coming up?
this is so ridiculous...why are we bailin out idiots who shd have charges filed against them and thrown in jail? i hope this moronity energises ppl to roll out the vote and start paying to politics and less on reality shows..
Let me get this right, The banks loan money to people who can't pay it back. They now won't loan money to people who can pay it back, unless we bailout the ones who can't? This is the first time I've ever been held hostage. If the people who are running Washington are still in office the next election. Then we deserve everything we just got poked with.
This bill will destroy the country. I know what will follow if this bill is passed, and it makes me very upset.
Have they lost their minds?
I must have missed the information that said this was a good idea. Or the survey that said any of the Yea voting senator's constituencies thought this was a good idea.
Using a greed and self interest to shove through a bad bail out bill will not help a problem created by greed and self interest.
Adding 180 Billion in PORK to an EMERGENCY 700 Billion bailout is Unconscionable. I will vote against both Senators Alexander and Corker from Tennessee on the basis of their votes for this bill.
THROW THE BUMS OUT!!!
Yay to Senator Dorgan of North Dakota for voting no! Yay to all the members of congress with enough balls to vote no. Boo to all that voted yes... including Obama, Biden, and McCain. I hear Obama is calling up House members and trying to get them to vote yes. He has SOOOO lost my vote.
Make no mistake. This is the biggest swindle in human history. Taxpayers will pay, 100% face value, for all the worthless derivatives paper held by American and foreign banks. How big is it? Unlimmitted, the treasury insisted upon it. This will lead to a hyperinflationary collapse of the dollar. The only solution is an orderly chapter 11 bankruptcy reorganiztion of the entire IMF/ Federal Reserve system, carried out by the federal government. Put the Fed, Citicorp, Bank of America etc, into receivership. Write off all the bad derivatives. There is not enough money in circulation to pay for them anyway. Issue new Treasury notes ( Hamiltons American system of economics ) , as done before by Lincoln and Kennedy, and build our way out of this, as done before by Roosevelt. Issue 1-2% low interst credit, thru a 3rd national bank, for capitol improvements. Such as Mag Lev rail, nuclear power, fussion energy research and even a manned mission to Mars. That's the solution. Continue the bailouts? Risk your life, your families and the American Republic. That's my two cents worth.
When the American people find out what the true nature of this is, they will be out for blood. I would hate to be in the shoes of anyone who put there names to this. This is all tanamount to TREASON!! Hey all you sports fans out there waving your proletarian thumbs. That Mutual fund and pension you were counting on: POOF IT's GONE!! If your in your twenties and don't have one, don't worry. Your young and your strong. When you get chosen for a slave labor assighnment, then you will understand. Maybe one of the six or so states that already use confederate style chain gangs. Deal with realty or reality will deal with you.
I am so disappointed that my state reps completely ignored the people's will. Shame on Lieberman AND especially Dodd.
I know it says not to do this but, I think it is appropriate for this one time.
I received this from a friend and I had not seen it this way. Here it is ......YOU DECIDE.
This is an article written by Charlie Reese, a former columnist for the Orlando Sentinel Newspaper. Very interesting perspective on the
state of our Nation!
545 PEOPLE
By Charlie Reese
Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.
Have you ever wondered why, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, we have deficits?
Have you ever wondered why, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, we have inflation and high taxes?
You and I don't propose a federal budget. The President does.
You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations.
The House of Representatives does.
You and I don't write the tax code, Congress does.
You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does.
You and I don't control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.
One hundred senators, 435 state representatives, one president, and nine Supreme Court justices 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly,
legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.
I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank.
I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a president to do one cotton-picking thing.
I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's responsibility to determine how he votes.
Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that
what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.
What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive
amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits. The president can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it.
The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes. Who is the speaker of the House? She is the leader of the majority party. She and fellow House members, not the president, can approve any budget they want. If the president vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.
It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million can not replace 545 people who stand convicted -- by present facts – of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can't think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.
If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair.
If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in th e red.
If the Marines are in IRAQ , it's because they want them in IRAQ .
If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement
plan not available to the people, it's because they want it that way.
There are no insoluble government problems.
Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power. Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like 'the economy,' 'inflation,' or politics' that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.
Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.
They, and they alone, have the power.
They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are
their bosses provided the voters have the gumption to manage their
own employees.
We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess!
What you do with this article now that you have read it is up to you,
though you appear to have several choices:
1. You can send this to everyone in your address book, and hope
they do something about it.
2. You can agree to vote against everyone that is currently in
office, knowing that the process will take several years.
3. You can decide to run for office yourself and agree to do the
job properly.
4. Lastly, you can sit back and do nothing, or re-elect the current bunch.
Interesting that Kennedy didn't vote at all. Wonder why?
I want to thank all those who voted no. May God bless you for making the right vote. At a time of financial crisis, spending $192M for rum producers, $128M for auto racing and the such, is no more than a bribe. Anyone who votes for a person who will not take the time to put together a workable solution to our problems deserves the results this bill will produce. It is a shame that the rest of us must also suffer too.
Again I thank you all for voting no to this bill.
Brett C
This is what I want to know.
What senators are responsible for adding the pork?
Please identify what senator goes with what pork.
Also on the house level, who added what pork?
I am an Independant. It makes no difference to me what party they are from.
If any are from my home state I will be voting against them for reelection!
House, you will vote on this bill today. I beg you all, please send it back. There are Harvard economic brains across our country, get these people up there to assist, get their ideas, create a bill that will address the root problem. Providing $6M for producers of wooden arrows, 10M for film and TV production is far from getting help to the root of the problem. If 700B was given to all the tax payers how much would this be per house hold. Would it be enough to pay off every ones home? Is not the loss of jobs the real reason why people can not pay for there homes? What does $128M for auto racing have to do with this? Or $223M for Alaskan fisherman have to do with this? Or $192M this bill will give to the production of rum in Puerto Rico. This kind of spending is why were are in the shape we are in. Let us commit to do better as the world is watching us. Vote this bill down and let's not get pressured into making billion or trillion dollar blunders that will send us into decades of debt.
Michigan voters - it's time to send LEVIN packing!!! He is ole party politics Washington! Remember your vote matters. We are already the worst state in the nation re: unemployment, jobs, housing, etc, can we afford 4 more years of a democratic govenor and senators??? Can we??
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