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Hillary upsets family of Bobby Kennedy
By M&C People May 25, 2008, 22:35 GMT
Democratic presidential hopeful and U.S. Senator Hillary Clinton EPA/TANNEN MAURY
The Kennedy clan is upset with presidential candidate Hillary Clinton after her mention of the assassination of Robert F Kennedy to a South Dakota newspaper.
Clinton invoked the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy in attempts to explain why she's staying in the race despite calls since Iowa for her to bow out. Now critics and her allies are sounding the death knell of a campaign gone awry.
"That comment may be the last nail in her campaign's coffin," a Kennedy relative told The New York Post. "How can Hillary even use the experience argument when she repeatedly pushes the wrong buttons in her comments?"
The Post insider says, "I think people really felt that a line was crossed and that her campaign - and even her legitimacy as a politician - ended today."
Another Kennedy clan member tells the Post, "She no longer has only her husband to blame for the ill-chosen comments coming from her camp."
While Robert Kennedy Jr. came out to support Sen. Clinton on Friday, the New York Post claims "others in the family's inner circle are fuming."
Clinton's comments were made on Friday before a South Dakota newspaper's editorial staff.
The 40th anniversary of RFK's death is only two weeks away, and Kennedy family patriarch Sen. Ted Kennedy was just discovered to be fighting an aggressive brain tumor.
"We were all sort of dumbfounded that she would say such a thing," the Post reports their source as saying.
Politicians who were pro-Hillary also voiced their displeasure: Rep. Charles Rangel (D-NY), told Bloomberg News with regards to the RFK comments, that she said "the dumbest thing you could have possibly said."
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just don't know who to vote in. surely mccain would not be any good .
hillary the same thing .im going with obama the only one i see fit .
but that just my oppion
Hillary needs more cigar time with her husband.
It's unbelievable that there are people that will continue to defend Hillary Clinton. She spoke her mind and has consistently stated she is staying in because of the Kennedy assignation. She conveniently forgets that she went along with the sanctions against Michigan and Florida but now makes it a crime against Democracy now that she needs the votes. She also voted for the war because she thought it was politically expedient. She is no leader and a disgrace to the process. I am sure her racist and uneducated supporters will continue to stand by her but there is no excuse for the super delegates to stay on the fence at this point.
Hillary's comments were akin to someone yelling, 'FIRE' in a crowded theater.
The biggest barrier to women winning the White House is a deceitful, conniving, bitter presidential wanna-be the likes of Hillary Clinton.
DECLARATIONS By PEGGY NOONAN Sex and the Sissy ... surely defines the women statesmen who have served their countries proudly and valiantly; Goldia Mier, Margret Thatcher,Indira Gandhi. Hillary, you're no stateswoman.
I am a woman, in fct a 'white' middle aged hard working woman. (I admit to a post graduate education but unlike Chelsea I have chosen to work outside the hedge fund industry.) Please do assume that I am anything like Hillary Clinton.
Thank you
Reporter, you and your editor need a refresher course in Journalism 101. Rep. Charles Rangel made the 'dumbest thing she could say' remark in reference to Hillary's comments about the hard working white people who are supporting her -- not the RFK assassination in June comments.
DON'T BE DUPED AGAIN AMERICA !!!
IT'S ABOUT ELECTABILITY !!!
Large numbers of BUSH_McCain Republicans have been voting for Barack Obama in the DEMOCRATIC primaries, and caucuses from early on with the backing and help of the medical and insurance industry. Under the direction of the George Bush, and Karl Rove vote fraud, and vote manipulation machine. Because they feel Barack Obama would be a weaker opponent against John McCain. And they want to stop Hillary Clinton from fixing the HUGE! American, and Global mess they have created. shocking!!! isn't it. Just gotta love those good old draft dodging, silver spoon Texas boys. Not! :-(
You see, the medical and insurance industry mostly support the republicans with the money they ripped off from you. And they don't want you to have quality, affordable universal health care. They want to be able to continue to rip you off, and kill you and your children by continuing to deny you life saving medical care that you have already paid for. So they can continue to make more immoral profits for them-selves off of you, and your children's suffering.
With Hillary Clinton you are almost 100% certain to get quality affordable universal health care for everyone very soon. And you are also certain to see major improvements in the economy for everyone.
The American people face even worse catastrophes ahead than the ones you are living through now. It will take all of the skills, and experience of Hillary Clinton to pull the American people out of this mess we are in. Fortunately fixing up, and cleaning up others incompetence, immoral degeneracy, and mess is what the Clinton's do very well.
Hillary Clinton has actually won by much larger margins than the vote totals showed. And lost by much smaller vote margins than the vote totals showed. Her delegate count is actually much higher than it shows. And higher than Obama's. She also leads in the electoral college numbers that you must win to become President in the November national election. HILLARY CLINTON IS ALREADY THE TRUE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE!
Just look at Oregon for example. Obama won Oregon by about 70,000 votes. But approximately 79,000 Bush republicans switched party's back in January to vote for Obama in the democratic primary. They are not going to vote for, or support any Democrat in November. Are you DEMOCRATS going to put up with that. Are you that stupid, and weak. The Bush republicans think you are that stupid, and weak.
As much as 30% of Obama's primary, and caucus votes are Republicans trying to choose the weakest democratic candidate for McCain to run against. These Republicans have been gaming the caucuses, and open primaries where it is easier to vote cheat. This is why Obama has not been able to win the BIG! states primaries. Even with Republican vote cheating help. Except North Carolina where 35% of the population is African American, and approximately 90% of them block voted for him. African Americans are only approximately 17% of the general population.
Hillary Clinton has been OUT MANNED! and OUT SPENT! 4 and 5 to 1. Yet Obama has only been able to manage a very tenuous, and questionable tie with Hillary Clinton. This is even more phenomenal when you consider she has been also fighting against the George Bush, Karl Rove vote fraud machine in the DEMOCRATIC primaries, and caucuses. Hillary Clinton is STUNNING!.
If Obama is the democratic nominee for the national election in November he will be slaughtered. That is crystal clear now. Because all of the Republican vote cheating help will suddenly evaporate. And the demographics, and experience are completely against him. All of this vote fraud and Bush republican manipulation has made Obama falsely look like a much stronger candidate than he really is.
You will have another McGovern catastrophe where George McGovern lost 49 of 50 states. And was the reason the super-delegates were created to keep that from happening again. Don't let that happen to the party and America again super-delegates. You have the power to prevent it. The only important question now is who can best win in November. And the answer is HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON. That fact is also now crystal clear.
And YOUNG PEOPLE. DON'T BE DUPED! Think about it. You have the most to lose. As do African Americans. Support Hillary Clinton. She will do her best for all of you. And she will know how to best get it done on day one.
The democratic party needs to fix this outrage. Everyone needs to throw all your support to Hillary Clinton NOW! So you can end this outrage against YOU the voter, and against democracy.
The democratic party, and the super-delegates have a decision to make. Are the democrats, and the democratic party going to choose the DEMOCRATIC party nominee to fight for the American people. Or are the republicans going to choose the DEMOCRATIC party nominee through vote fraud, and gaming the DEMOCRATIC party primaries, and caucuses.
Fortunately the Clinton's have been able to hold on against this fraudulent outrage with those repeated dramatic, and heroic comebacks of Hillary Clinton’s. Only the Clinton’s are that resourceful, and strong. Hillary Clinton is your NOMINEE. They are the best I have ever seen. Probably the best there has ever been. :-)
“This is not a game” (Hillary Clinton)
Sincerely
jacksmith... Working Class :-)
p.s. Cynthia Ruccia - I'm with ya baby. All the way. 'Clinton Supporters Count Too.'
IT'S ABOUT ELECTABILITY !!!
MY FELLOW 'BITTER', STUPID, WORKING CLASS PEOPLE :-)
If you think like Barack Obama, that WORKING CLASS PEOPLE are just a bunch of 'BITTER'!, STUPID, PEASANTS, Cash COWS!, and CANNON FODDER. :-(
You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you think Barack Obama with little or no experience would be better than Hillary Clinton with 35 years experience.
You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you think that Obama with no experience can fix an economy on the verge of collapse better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) led the greatest economic expansion, and prosperity in American history.
You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you think that Obama with no experience fighting for universal health care can get it for you better than Hillary Clinton. Who anticipated this current health care crisis back in 1993, and fought a pitched battle against overwhelming odds to get universal health care for all the American people.
You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you think that Obama with no experience can manage, and get us out of two wars better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) went to war only when he was convinced that he absolutely had to. Then completed the mission in record time against a nuclear power. AND DID NOT LOSE THE LIFE OF A SINGLE AMERICAN SOLDIER. NOT ONE!
You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you think that Obama with no experience saving the environment is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) left office with the greatest amount of environmental cleanup, and protections in American history.
You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you think that Obama with little or no education experience is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) made higher education affordable for every American. And created higher job demand and starting salary’s than they had ever been before or since.
You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you think that Obama with no experience will be better than Hillary Clinton who spent 8 years at the right hand of President Bill Clinton. Who is already on record as one of the greatest Presidents in American history.
You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you think that you can change the way Washington works with pretty speeches from Obama, rather than with the experience, and political expertise of two master politicians ON YOUR SIDE like Hillary and Bill Clinton..
You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you think all those Republicans voting for Obama in the Democratic primaries, and caucuses are doing so because they think he is a stronger Democratic candidate than Hillary Clinton. :-)
Best regards
jacksmith... Working Class :-)
p.s. You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you don't know that the huge amounts of money funding the Obama campaign to try and defeat Hillary Clinton is coming in from the insurance, and medical industry, that has been ripping you off, and killing you and your children. And denying you, and your loved ones the life saving medical care you needed. All just so they can make more huge immoral profits for them-selves off of your suffering...
You see, back in 1993 Hillary Clinton had the audacity, and nerve to try and get quality, affordable universal health care for everyone to prevent the suffering and needless deaths of hundreds of thousands of you each year. :-)
Approx. 100,000 of you die each year from medical accidents from a rush to profit by the insurance, and medical industry. Another 120,000 of you die each year from treatable illness that people in other developed countries don’t die from. And I could go on, and on...
OBAMA AIDE: 'WORKING-CLASS VOTERS NOT KEY FOR DEMOCRATS' :o
jacksmith-
If you think anybody is going to fall for you pusedo logic - you're probably a high school dropout, blue collar, idiot.
Has it come down to ragging on the high school dropout, blue collar, idiots?
Rise up all you high school dropout, blue collar, idiots (also seen as worthless garbage). Don't forget to read your bibles and shoot a deer or two.
Treat no one like dung. Every American deserves better than that kind of Rhetoric.
Just wait until the spoiled Milllenials take over, you ain't seen nothin' yet.
Bye Bye American Pie.
Saw McCain on SNL last week. He was hilarious. We just HAVE to get a President like this!
jacksmithMay 26th, 2008 - 05:54:20
IT'S ABOUT ELECTABILITY !!!
sp4 - it is to democrats, because they have one candidate whos crroked and another whos crroked and inexperienced
MY FELLOW 'BITTER', STUPID, WORKING CLASS PEOPLE :-)
sp4 - working class people are not stupid, only those who tag them as such
If you think like Barack Obama, that WORKING CLASS PEOPLE are just a bunch of 'BITTER'!, STUPID, PEASANTS, Cash COWS!, and CANNON FODDER. :-(
sp4: - perhaps you are, but don't include the rest of them
You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you think Barack Obama with little or no experience would be better than Hillary Clinton with 35 years experience.
sp4 - you ARE an idiot of you believe she HAS 35 years of any kind of experience whatsoever
You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you think that Obama with no experience can fix an economy on the verge of collapse better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) led the greatest economic expansion, and prosperity in American history.
sp4 - you ARE an idiot if you think the economy is on the verge of 'collapse'
You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you think that Obama with no experience fighting for universal health care can get it for you better than Hillary Clinton. Who anticipated this current health care crisis back in 1993, and fought a pitched battle against overwhelming odds to get universal health care for all the American people.
sp4 - you ARE an idiot of you think Hillary has any more experience or success in health care. Just look at New York: the highest premiums some of the worst uninsured numbers...
You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you think that Obama with no experience can manage, and get us out of two wars better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) went to war only when he was convinced that he absolutely had to. Then completed the mission in record time against a nuclear power. AND DID NOT LOSE THE LIFE OF A SINGLE AMERICAN SOLDIER. NOT ONE!
SP4 - you ARE an idiot of you think we're leaving those wars right away. Only MCCain has been honest about it.
You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you think that Obama with no experience saving the environment is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) left office with the greatest amount of environmental cleanup, and protections in American history.
sp4 - you ARE an idiot of you think the Clintons, who sold influence to the biggest polluters on the planet, AMOCO, China and others have any success with the environment to begin with.
You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you think that Obama with little or no education experience is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) made higher education affordable for every American. And created higher job demand and starting salary’s than they had ever been before or since.
sp4 - you ARE an idiot of you think the dem party has done a single thing to help education. Only Bush, with the NO Child Left Behind Act has produced any real progress. Now, even dems are begging for Vouchers. By the way, Hillary sends her kids to PRIVATE schiool...
You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you think that Obama with no experience will be better than Hillary Clinton who spent 8 years at the right hand of President Bill Clinton. Who is already on record as one of the greatest Presidents in American history.
sp4 - you ARE an idiot if you think Clinton was a good President. White Water, FBI records scandal, Travel Office scandal, selling influence to AMOCO, the Chinese, N. Korea, pardons fo Puerto Rican Terrorists and impeachment do not, moron, make a good president, let alone the greatest...
You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you think that you can change the way Washington works with pretty speeches from Obama, rather than with the experience, and political expertise of two master politicians ON YOUR SIDE like Hillary and Bill Clinton..
sp4 - you ARE an idiot of you fail to look at their REAL record of scandal and abuse, their only real experience.
You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you think all those Republicans voting for Obama in the Democratic primaries, and caucuses are doing so because they think he is a stronger Democratic candidate than Hillary Clinton. :-)
sp4 -don't flatter yourselves, i know of not one single republican engaged in this waste of time, because, Jackass, we don't like EITHER of them!
Best regards
jacksmith... Working Class :-)
Best regards
SP4 - your a jackass Jack, go inform yourself and quit calling yourself 'working class' becuae you are embarrassing those who are.
p.s. You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you don't know that the huge amounts of money funding the Obama campaign to try and defeat Hillary Clinton is coming in from the insurance, and medical industry, that has been ripping you off, and killing you and your children. And denying you, and your loved ones the life saving medical care you needed. All just so they can make more huge immoral profits for them-selves off of your suffering...
You see, back in 1993 Hillary Clinton had the audacity, and nerve to try and get quality, affordable universal health care for everyone to prevent the suffering and needless deaths of hundreds of thousands of you each year. :-)
Approx. 100,000 of you die each year from medical accidents from a rush to profit by the insurance, and medical industry. Another 120,000 of you die each year from treatable illness that people in other developed countries don’t die from. And I could go on, and on...
OBAMA AIDE: 'WORKING-CLASS VOTERS NOT KEY FOR DEMOCRATS' :o
sp4 - no one is buying it Jack(ass). This is because of
White Water
FBI records scandal
Pardons for Puerto rican terrorists
Chinese and Russian campaign funds
influence peddling for pardons and money
Everyone KNOWS who the Clintons are!
Jack Smith is a very silly man.
We already have had a president who is hilarious, and he doesn't even try to be!
Most amazing is her non-apology and excuse that she'd had Edward Kennedy on her mind since she's made this reference since March, usually not on film for the entire world to see. So first she forgets she's been beating this drum for months. Then she says it was taken out of context. BUT we all got to look at it on tape over and over if that's what anyone wants to do. This kind of heartless irresponsibility and clueless failure of emotional empathy and emotional intelligence is not worthy of the presidency. Her best hope now is to be running mate to John McCain.
Hey Jacksmith what 'nuclear power' did Bill Clinton wage war against and win?
I remember he sent troops to the Sudan looking for Bin Laden after the USS Cole was bombed by terrorist and that didn't turn out well for him nor for the honorable american troops who gave their lives defending our great nation.
And you say 'great president.' I think 'no lie' Bill was almost impeached for obstruction of justice surrounding Monica Lewinski and caused the nation to explore if oral sex is in fact sexual relations (with that woman).
Jack, have you been sleeping through high school history class again? You know, you just might be an idiot.
People sure have a vivid imagination to imagine that Clinton discussing the 1968 primary, which went into June, somehow means she is hoping that Obama is assassinated. Maybe 'vivid imagination' is not the right phrase. How about warped imagination?
She did not 'discuss' the 1968 primary. She mentioned the June 1968 assassiantion of Robert Kennedy. RFK was just four weeks away from his first primary victory when he was murdered in 1968. This front runner and favorite's campaign for the White House was just beginning when he was murdered. June 1968 was not part of a long and drawn out primary and it, therefore, has little to do with the current campaign that Clinton is now fighting in June. We were on a different time table in 1968.
She made the assassination reference three times over several months and no one on her staff ever caught it or corrected it.
On this last reference, most listeners interpret her mentioning the assassination as part of her thinking that she is staying in the race because 'anything can happen' and this is one example of the 'anything' that crosses her mind. She then went on to say something like she just 'doesn't know' (why things happen in June).
Add this statement to her flip flop on Fla. and Mich., her actions and statements throughout the campaign she can't win under the current rules she agreed to, and you see a person who has no limits, and I do mean NO LIMITS, in their thirst for power. She has hanged herself.
Clinton is a moral coward and an advocate for piss-poor state-craft in voting to invade Iraq.
She made her bed - and now she will sleep in it.
I HAD great admiration for Hillary, and as a democrat, would have voted for her had she been nominated. But it’s been obvious to most reasonable people that she lost that chance after the IN and NC primaries. It seemed unreasonable she would continue even when her donors started fading and she had to loan herself money to continue her campaign.
Nevertheless I felt some pride when she decided to fight on, I assumed, for a bit longer, for her own sake, smooth some feathers, mend some bridges and bow out with dignity from a battle well fought. Instead she’s done all the opposite. Desperately grasping at every meager and unlikely straw and dragging her party through possibly the longest primary ever: Bill was assured his nomination at the end of March when Tsongas pulled out, not in June. Also primaries used to start in March not in January like this one.
Now Hillary wants consideration given to Michigan, where Obama wasn’t even on the ballot! and Florida, which had the lowest voter turnout compared to the records set in other states, because most FL voters knew it wouldn’t count. What’s next… hanging chads? Ugh… It feels like 2000 all over again!
As a woman, I’m embarrassed by Hillary. I could draw an analogy between her and a clingy, housewife who hangs onto her sham of a marriage (campaign) and whines at her dashing, womanizer husband (the voters) to pay attention to her. But an analogy is defined as a “resemblance in some particulars between things otherwise unlike” and unfortunately, that isn’t so “unlike” Hillary’s personal life.
It's clear to me now that any woman who doesn’t seem to mind being the most humiliated 1st Lady ever, also wouldn’t mind desperately fighting a battle long lost and humiliating herself.
Thomas Boyle, the democrat nominee wannabe for the August convention is still in the race. His moderate pro-life stance may be the key in bringing life caring voters back into the party. 'Having only one and a half Democrat Presidents in forty years says it all. Our party is on the wrong side of the issue.' Boyle says ' Abortion is a death sentence. It should be treated like one, very sparingly, in a court of law with all the safeguards of a capital verdict. Mothers should be given full support of government to bring their child to term, including expanded adoption possibilities like the 'Children's and Adoption Act in Great Britain'.'
'The Democratic convention is basically deadlocked. It is time for the moderate wing of the party to speak up and take our party back.' Boyle concluded. Presidentboyle.com
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vermaxMay 26th, 2008 - 01:07:24
i know many women would like to see a woman as President, but each day HRC continues to campaign the more she is proving that she is not what we need in the White House. She obviously does not think before she speaks and we already have that in Bush.
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