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By Stone Martindale May 31, 2007, 14:38 GMT
UPDATE: 'Hogzilla 2' killer is 11 year-old Alabama boy
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I would be interested to know what you think country area is( Probably the suburbs)
In real farm country areas most people hunt.
When I went to high school we were allowed to bring our guns to school during deer season and other seasons.
There would be hundreds of high powered rifles(35 cal 30 30, 30 06 etc. in the back windows of trucks and cars in the student parking lot.
Any guess as to how many times in 90 years kids got in trouble with guns in the county at schools-----ZERO--------ZERO------ZERO----------
Any guess what days kids were allowed to skip school each year without getting in trouble with the Principals?? Deer Season---Hay harvest---County Fair if you had entries
You know, the old textbook definition of normal as I was taught is that
'any accepted standards or ideals within a select group' is NORMAL for that group.
So, it may be quite normal for a boy living in the country to go hunting with his father even at a young age, wher it may not be normal for that same boy to sit in front of a television playing video games as is quite normal for many middle class urbanites.
Eating monkey brains is normal in Bankok - but, not something regulary served in most U.S. homes. My point being, I think that most of us tend to judge this event from a narrow and somewhat ignorant vantage point. As for hunting with a .50 pistol - the weapon was of sufficient caliber and force to kill a pig weighing half a ton. LAPD, and many other police departments, use more rounds on a man than that child used on an animal the size of 6 men. That kid bagged a monster and he's proud of it - just like a geek feels pride for mastering a rubics cube or a car salesman feels when he makes a big sale; It's all relative to our social environment and geography.
Monkey brains--yum yum eatem up
By the way real mince meat pie baked at christmas is made with pig brains
yah down south .where men are men and women are double breasted
The next time you (no no don't kill anything it's a sin)sit down with your Prime rib, chicken Caesar salad, hamburger ,pizza with pepperoni etc. etc. etc .realize someone killed it for you, but you are still responsible for it's death
Where the men are men and the sheep are nervous
I merely wondered how the subject of fishing had anything to do with this particular article. Of course it's a great thing to be enjoying life with children in good activities, but I still don't feel it should be like 'fishing or doing drugs' kind of mentality. No one stated if kids aren't out hunting and fishing, they will be out doing drugs!!!!
Look, I'm a teenager, living in the suburbs, who has a weekend home in the middle of the country, so i have been blessed with the oppurtunity of seeing both sides of the picture. Personally, i'm partial towards the hunter/ country way of living. Whenever i'm at the farm, i get my gun, and i hunt groundhogs (no they're not in any way related to pigs, they just make a sort of scream like a pig does.) Anyways; out there, everyone hunts. I first reveived a toy bow at age six. Then at nine, i received a BB gun. I first went hunting at age ten. I've been hooked ever since. The outdoors is the greatest thing on earth; and to have the priveledge of hunting, and then eating what you kill, is a joy so wonderful, words can't sum it up.
on the topic of the kid roaming around with his dad in the swamps, hunting pigs, well congrats to the kid. I've shot hogs down in Texas before, and let me tell you, they are not easy to kill, especially the big ones. Pigs have been proven to be the smartest, and most adaptable animals (minus apes.) For this pig to have grown to be 1,050 pounds, he'll have to have been old. And the longer they live, the wiser they get; so congrats to him.
oh, and by the way, i'm sickened by all you folks who have no idea what you are saying and are picking on this kid for hunting. COME ON!!!! grow up, spend some time outdoors, get a life. now if you'll excuse me, i gonna go out back and shoot my air rifle at some tin cans.
For all of you Animal Rights Activists, I bet that all of your ancestors killed and ate more meat most people do today, and how did they do it, they hunted animals. Hunters are Sportsman that are full of class and respect for the environment. I applaud the 11 year old. I wish that I could have been on the shooting end that day. What a bag.
Yes, the kid did shoot the pig, I believe it. I've travelled thru Mid, South and Rural American to know that this is true. Many people teach hunting skills to their kids from a young age and are proud of it.
But,more importantly shouldn't we question what kind of culture we have that takes pleasure and pride in destroying unique species? If we see a mythical-type unique creature in the middle of the forest, should not we let it be?? This unique animal has been destroyed and we all seem to be gloating or jealous of the kid. I think the forest or preserve was more interesting with the big, 'hogzilla' in it than without out it. No wonder species that make our world liveable and interesting are being made extinct. /Their skeletons decorate our walls, or we use them, spent them, plain eat them or all of the above.
In the old days when people hunted for their food it was because they had to. There was no Mcdonalds, shaw's super markets, restaurants etc. So yeah in order to survive they had to kill. This is 2007. You can walk around the corner and find a place with food, hunting is not necassary anymore. Yes it is better to actually eat the animal when you kill it, but it takes a certain kind of person to look a living creature in the eye and murder it when there is no need to. if the Indians and our ancestors could have bought their food without having to do the hard work of killing it themselves I'm sure the would have opted for that. It's not a coincidence that people who end up killing humans start off killing animals. Obviously that is an extreme case, but still, something is missing in the brain of a person who thinks so little of taking life. When hunters say they are helping the animals because they are overpopulated it's a joke. wWhat do you think is going to happen when we take their land to build on and push them into a smaller area? Also, I live in NH and the most deer I have seen are dead on the side of the road, if they were over populated they'd be in my front lawn eating the grass, but they're not. So no more lame excuses hunters, just admit it you like killing things. Hey I guess better animals than people right?!
Anyone who's ever watched a kid play a 3-D video game knows that the desire to kill something is primal. The most popular games are fighting, first person shooters and action adventure types with plenty of blood guts and dismemberment.
Maybe killing an animal is a release for this suppressed instinct that most men are born with; Or, maybe the mental masturbation that one derives from the vertual worlds a modern game system has to offer is enough - kinda' like the differences between sex and phone sex? It's all about facing the fact that we are still very much the predatory animal our ancestors were. I guess the vegans are remnants of the gatherer part of the hunter/gatherer scene we once followed.
This kid is simply enjoying the fulfilment of his natural instincts - the ones self rightous zealots pretend not to have. Uh, this may need to be dumbed down a bit for the tree hugging animal rights activists out there. too weird even for me to stomach right now.
tradition-schmission unless this kid is the size of a....dennys breakfast including sausage made from feral pig from a game preserve (sigh)...a .50 cal pistol is too much gun. you cannot help these people parent , but ya gotta feel weird about the casual relationship americans have with guns...yeah , its common in the south and the south is becoming this fat farm covered in litter , shacks ,dope and stupid consumerism gone berserk. myrtle beach?? orlando? houston?? holy shit , america you need a serious overhaul of your value system and you need to ......go feral pig hunting !
tradition-schmission unless this kid is the size of a....dennys breakfast including sausage made from feral pig from a game preserve (sigh)...a .50 cal pistol is too much gun. you cannot help these people parent , but ya gotta feel weird about the casual relationship americans have with guns...yeah , its common in the south and the south is becoming this island of dr moreau place america you need an overhaul of your value system and you need to ......go feral pig hunting !
Somebody plugged resturant... twice. At least plug a good one, please!
I think farmcity should have spent a little more time on school work and less on hunting by the looks of the comment!!
What's the big deal about an 11 year old boy hunting? That is commonplace in the more rural areas of the US. People in those areas grow up with guns, and are generally instructed in their safe use early on. Kids out in the countryside often start hunting squirrels and rabbits when they are 6 or 7 years old.
To answer the questions posed at the beginning of the article:
'First, why was an 11 year old roaming the woods with a loaded gun?'
Because it is amazingly hard to shoot a hog with an unloaded gun.
'Second, what on earth caused the feral pig to exceed 1000 pounds?'
Maybe he ate like a pig?
'Lastly, why would parents actually permit an 11 year-old be in the woods where other roaming kids with guns and gi-hugent wild animals were running around?'
As you noted, his father and the hunting guides were with him. He was in the woods with the gi-hugent wild animals because he was hunting them. What makes you think that there were lots of kids running to and fro with guns? I don't recall reading any reports of that unlikely event at all.
Sorry, Disgusted. Your argument doesn't make sense. If you eat at McDonalds, you just killed a cow. Well, not a whole one, but it's the same thing. If I don't eat at McDonald's, they won't buy as much meat and not as many cows will be slaughtered. And, if I just killed 1000 lbs of pork, none of my family would be eating at McDonald's for months, maybe a year!
Besides that, McDonald's beef is grade D. That is not an exaggeration. You put so many chemicals and hormones in your body with every bite of a McD burger, it's disgusting. Hunting and eating your own is FAR better. If everyone did that, McD would go out of business. YAY!
Kids out hunting at 6 or 7!!! I'm fron a hunting family, but that wouldn't be a good thing or allowed at that age. Young kids don't have the capacity to think like an adult, even if some people believe they are.
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