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Black leaders cry foul on Brandy manslaughter charges
By Stone Martindale Jan 30, 2007, 20:42 GMT
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My fellow booze named bimbo is responsible and you black leaders need to back off and let her take responsibility for her actions.
I would love to know if Brandy was doing her makeup or texting on her cell phone behind the wheel... otherwise, I would agree with the comment 'Brandy tried to do the right thing. Destroying 2 lives is not going to fix anything.'
No matter how you look at it she did not intentionally set out to kill anybody. Thus it was an accident! Sh*t happens! She already has to live with it and now they are considering putting her in jail. Good god! That’s Justus in America. Put her in jail and then sue her for an ungodly amount of money. Let me ask you something, how would you feel if it was you?
If Brandy killed my children with her SUV, I would demand the DA let her go because she's a celebrity and doing otherwise would be 'unfairly targeting her'. That's why I want to become a star...so I can kill people with my car and get away with it. That's what Amerika is all about!!! Yay Hollywood!
I wish that I was black and famous....I too could get away with murder.
Oh ok just because she is black and famous she should be able to get away with what she does!!! I wonder if it was just average every day black person if they would go to these extremes!! She should be treated just like everyone else. No matter what color she is or how famous she is! If she cause a accident that killed someone, then charges should be filed!
Give me a break. If it's found she killed a person she should be held responsible just like any other person. Maximum penalty is one year in jail, wow what an inconvenient interruption in her life... oh wait, someone DIED.
There cannot possibly be any proof that this particular celebrity is being treated unfairly. Even if she were, there could not possibly any proof at this early date that there is any racial or stupid anti-celebrity bias at work. People like Najee should be held civilly liable for playing judge-jury-executioner and blathering out such knee-jerk slander. As long as we're talking about bias, did Najee come to the same conclusion about Mel Gibson's drunken self-emolation? I'll bet Kim Basinger deserves her contempt of court charges but Wesley Snipes should not have to pay taxes, right? Of course, Nicole and Paris surely deserve their DUI troubles, but poor Mike Tyson is being framed for all that cocaine, eh, Najee?
' That’s Justus in America.' Please learn to spell 'Justice' before trying to comment on it. If this was truly an accident, she should not be punished. But if she was on the cell phone/ doing makeup/ etc... that is the definition of Negligent Homicide. She was negligent, and she caused someone to die. People MUST be held responsible for their actions, celebrity or not. At least someone else MIGHT NOT put on makeup or whatever while driving (if that is the case) because they saw that you can go to jail if someone gets hurt/killed.
DO the city file charges in every accident if someone died? If not why do it this time.
Black people are such confused racists. Because 'whitey' doesn't suppress them anymore they have to get more and more extreme with their charges.
This article brings to light the tacky race joke that black leaders are trying to pull on America.
OK
so she made a mistake... tell that to the ones that the dead person left behind. What the Hell? We cant hold a celebrity to account in the country anymore without black leaders getting up in arms?.. Did we learn nothing from OJ?...Pityful
Wow I really wish I had some high and mighty race warrior to come to my defense every time I screwed up. Man that would be so cool. People screw up, white people screw up, black people screw up, yellow people screw up, and red people screw up. When they do the law should be applied equally. Seems like if you are black you either get the shaft laid to you if you are poor, or you get to have the media firing for you if you are white. I mean how many times is Snoop going to get arrested in 2007? I mean who will OJ kill next? How many more book deals will he get this year? All the time they are many POOR Black (and white, and yellow, and red) men and women setting in jail right now no one giving a royal flying fig.
Charge her hard, and put her fancy pants little bottom in jail with the real people in the world.
The title says it all... 'Black leaders cry foul'. This race card crap has really gotta stop. Sometimes people make mistakes and mess up. Even black people! But I guess the likes of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would never understand that because blacks are always an automatic victim. This is a joke!!
It is a common practice of the CHP to recommend misdemeanor manslaughter charges in traffic accidents resulting in death. Ultimately, the various District Attorney's offices will evaluate the traffic collision report, and decide if the charges are warranted.
If a vehicle #1 hits vehicle #2 from behind, it is always considered to be the fault of the driver of vehicle #1. If the accident is Brandy's fault, then the death is her fault. Legally, that's manslaughter, and I can see no reason to make an exception.
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This is not Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. These are LA-based Black Islamic folks. You can't lump all 'black leaders' together.
ok E, how would YOU feel if that was your child she hit? Would YOU let her off scot free?
I do not think she is being targeted because she is famous. I think she is getting what she desires, someone died because of a direct result of her actions. Accident or not. As a result, she has to pay the piper.
Black leaders who are calling foul. Just reminder the facts in the case, regardless of skin color.
the black leaders need to stop making this out of,a racial thing when a black person get in trouble with the law. What color was the other person? Dose it even matter? A person is dead because of an other persons poor actions. thats what matters.
Don't worry Brandy, you'll get off just like I did. I molested all those little boys and more. I got off because I'm blick and famous and I can get away with it. All you got to do is scream racist and the DA will back off.
...What celebrity?
Every time something major happens involving a black person why does it always have to be 'unfair' treatment'? This najeef fellow and the rev. jessie jackson need to pipe down and start looking at the facts. Someone died in a crash. Not everything has to be racist, in fact I think the tables have turned and if anything if you are a white male or female in the US you are pretty much screwed.
Najee Ali, leader of Project Islamic HOPE is the first one to cry foul. Interesting. I think we need to think critically about this. What if Ali is correct? Isn't having the Death of another on your conscious punishment enough? That would be tough to live with. What is best for society? Should Brandi be punished for negligence? or Just sued for millions by the family members of the victim. What is best for society? Is jail a constructive solution? or is there an alternative punishment that would better serve society?
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If Brandi where White, would Ali be speaking out? I think we need to look at the motives of opportunists, serving their own groups agenda. We need to constantly be aware of interests that contradict what is best for America. Whether it be the police department serving their own political agenda or the Islamic Hope trying to make an opportunity where one doesn't exist.
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And one thing we should be greatful for, and never quell, is the ability to stand up and speak out freely on what you percieve as injustice. We all have to remember not to make a judgement until we look objectively at all the facts.
So let me get this straight. Brandy has not been charged with anything yet but black 'leaders' (whiners) are already crying afoul. However, if these leaders' children were killed by a white driver they would be screaming for justice!!!
It is a horrible and tragic accident not matter what the skin color is of those involved. Lets not make this political please! Brandy seems like a sweet girl and feels horrible however, her actions need to be investigated at the very least as someone died.
Chuck, JustUs is a play on words. You must not be to bright, see if you can dig deep and figure it out you big dumbee!
It is understood that all black people are not to be held accountable for any of their actions. Yo, yo, yo, yo ... I am just keeping it real.
Its so sad really sad.. To read so many ignorant and Unintelligent idiots who write about what they do not know. Please learn how to spell and everyone remember ---Your INNOCENT until proven guilty. The total facts are not out. Learn how to S P E L L ! Everyone stop using the race card !
'Your INNOCENT until proven guilty. '
It is 'you are or you're' not 'your' silly Alaskan.
If she did it then she should pay! Celebrity or not, someone died because of her actions.
The Black Leaders .... Just think if there was a group called the White Leaders advocating for white folks. Can you imagine the uproar among blacks?
It is so sad that black are allowed to be racists and can get away with it. If the Black Leaders want 'justice', they need to hire OJ Simpson's lawyers.
They always pull the race card. Blacks can never own up to their actions. Its always someone else fault. Its always the white man putting them down. It think she better get her purse out cause she's going to have to pay for what she done.
What about the victim. Race card aside some innocent person died. sounds like another O J trial to me.
Many people are posting assumptions, not facts. The CHP found that Ms. Norwood WAS NOT distracted nor was she speeding at the time of the accident. In police speak that means she wasn't doing her makeup, talking on the phone, dancing in her seat or driving with her eyes closed. The CHP also determined that Brandy caused the accident and their recommendation is that she should be charged. The DA is going to review the case to see if charges are warranted. Fair enough. The DA did not state that because Ms. Norwood is a YOUNG, BLACK CELEBRTIY we will not charge her. From personal experience I can tell you that accidents happen and people sometimes die. It's tragic, but it wasn't intentional. The correct term for Ms. Norwood’s charges, if there are any, would be Involuntary Vehicular Manslaughter. The keyword is involuntary. Brandy didn't set out to kill someone, an accident happened. She should be held responsible for her actions, not crucified for her celebrity.
I don't think that the penalty the police have laid out is unreasonable. Somebody died, and it wasn't because of anyone's car malfunctioning, therefore it was human error. Human error triggered by Brandy, who was most likely negligent. Anyone in the same situation would be facing the same charges. Making this out to be a race issue is being either naive or opportunistic.
Why is it that every time people of color get into trouble, the Black leadership starts yelling racism?
Come on folks. Did you ever hear about the boy that cried wolf?
If it was the average joe driving the land rover and Brandy in the Toyota, you all would be screaming that Joe should be charged with a felony. Brandy is not immune to the law even if she is a celeb.
'Alaska Girl', I too deplore the lack of spelling ability demonstrated on most blogs. However, in the context of innocence it is 'you're innocent' not 'your innocent'. Ironic isn't it.
Half of you are missing the point.
We see time and time again, low-income and people of color are not treated fairly in the American justice system.
This is not one of those cases, this is a case where someone clearly did something, accident or not, which led to the death of another person. Brandy is neither being oppressed nor institutionally marginalized, which this kind of 'cry foul' stuff, nonsense.
It also undermines other movements to reform the criminal justice system to treat minorities and low-income folks more equally.
I was not aware, until reading these posts, that when Laura Bush (Laura Welsh at the time) was 17, she ran a stopsign one night and broadsided a car driven by a friend of hers, Michael Douglas. Mr. Douglas died at the scene of the accident.
Curiously, no charges were filed against the 'First Lady'.
It was all written off as a sad accident.
Based on that incident, should Brandy be charged? Hmmm
Y'all are hatin my girl Brandy. Don't y'all know that as long as we claim racism, we can get away with murder, and rape, and manslaughter. Yo, yo, yo, yo .... keep it real.
Just because she's a celeb the law doesn't apply!? It also seems that when something negative happens to a minority person, the civil rights people get up in arms and cry foul. Since when are minoirtiess exceptions to the law. It seems that such civil right organizatins (not the minorities or the people themselves) feel that when ever someone in a minority is slighted the law SHOULDN'T apply, and resitiution should follow!!!
A few years ago, two young men in a Jetta accidentally ran through a red light in my neighborhood. They hit a woman and her stroller in the intersection. They baby was thrown into the light pole and was killed. The driver received 20 years.
Brandy isn't above the law, and deserves the same punishment. Anyone who thinks otherwise (Islamic HOPE), I can only 'hope' that your children suffer the same fate, then we'll see what song you sing.
Just think about it!
I don't really see the big deal. Its freakin Brandy guys!!! She was probably thinking, 'Damn! You cant find carmageddon anymore for the pc anymore, and I want to play!' Way to go Brandy if you missed it, that was 200 points.... Come to TX and we can play multiplayer!!!!!
In addition, I recall hearing on the local news, when this story broke about a week ago, that the family of the victim is considering pressing charges against the police department for withholding information. Apparently, it took a long, long time for the family to get any actual information about the crash. So if the 'black leaders' (whoever they are) would actually take a look at the entire picture, I would be more likely to guess that Brandy's celebrity is *shielding* her. Not making her a target.
Involuntary Manslaughter is not an abnormal charge in a case like this - she had to have done something neligent if she back-ended someone so hard that they spun into another traffic lane and were killed (because the police have ruled out vehicular malfunction). So let her face what any other person would have to face in these circumstances. Trial.
I am white and a member of the NAACP. If someone inadvertently kills another on the highway and is at fault for the accident - black, white or yellow - no one because of color, avocation or political status should be above the law. She needs to face her demons with her lawyer in a court of law. These 'groups' calling her possible prosecution a violation of civil rights and racism fail to realize they are doing nothing more than calling attention to themselves for the wrong reason. She was speeding - she caused the accident...see her in court.
if Brandy was white,you white racist,would have nothing to say.
Brandy is a warrior in our Jihad against the Great Devil that is the American Traffic Jam. Death to commuters. La, la, la, la, la, ... Alah Akbar.
Some of us look at a singer or actor as more than a human being, we have to realize that is all they are .. It is sad that some one had to die in this situation and if ms. norwood is at fault then she has to deal with actions of the situation..I'm hoping for the best for everyone and not just ms. norwood..
If President Bush can send all of those soldiers to there death in an illegal war and get away with it way can't Brandy
There is not enough information either way to make a determination. Ali may have a case if, in fact, most car accidents where negligence kills someone, charges are rarely filed, that could be a sign of discrimination against her, for her celebrity status, or her racial identity or for both(race/celebrity).
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If Ali is right, then we must be very grateful to him for having the courage to stand up for what is right! 'Injustice Anywhere Is A Threat To Justice EVERYWHERE' (Quote by DR. Martin Luther King).
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However, if it is common place to charge the negligent party, where someone has died. Then it is evident that Ali and maybe(but not necessarily)the Islamic Hope group has alterior motives, not necessarily in the interest of serving society.
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And by the way, just because a black leader(or any 'leader') says one thing, does not mean all people think the same way. Generalizing is not thinking critically and very un-American.
At this point we do not have enough info, and need to think critically and objectively.
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First off, Unlike a majority of accidents, Brandy did not take off. A key point in her favor. Second she immediately admitted guilt, Second point in her favor. Brandy has shown extreme remorse in the incident. Third pint in her favor. How many people out there would have left the scene, blamed someone else or would really would care that some one died. Compared to all the other celebrities out there Brandy has been the most down to earth and closest to a non-celeb. The charges are a formality, and anyone in her position would also be facing the same charges. Regardless of whether she is actually charged or not. She is already living with the guilt.
Brandy, you're a fine girl, what good wife you would be. But you drive like sh*t.
First of all, I really feel sorry for the family of the woman killed in this tragic accident. However, in the name of justice, Brandy did not intend to kill anyone, and she was not negligent (no alcohol or drugs). Rear-ending someone's car happens all the time, and the majority of such accidents result in small injuries. Getting killed by that type of accident is just bad luck (in this case hit by other cars and eventually broadsided by a car in such a way that it caused fatal injuries). The family should get the insurance money and should try to reach a fair agreement with Brandy, out of court!
IF she caused the accident then she should be guilty of the crime. Period. Doesn't matter what color, sex or what job she may have. Now, in the real world, will she get treated better than if I was convicted of the crime? Yes. It's not right, but it how the world is currently working. It's not great but hey, it's better than living in just about any other country in world.
Next time a white person is committed of a crime why don't we rise up and cry racism!
I can sympathize with Brandy becuase I too have felt the sting of prosecutorial special treatment. Brandy, you go girl. Oh and can you turn up the air conditioner, it feels like I eternally on fire.
If Brandy get away with this, I can honestly say I got screwed.
No, the courts do NOT file charges in every accident resulting in a fatality. All prosecutor's offices review the incident with the police/fire dept. investigation reports and then decide whether there was possible negligence, intent, or just a tragic accident that truly was no one's fault. If there's any possibility that there MAY have been a crime committed the prosecutors office sends the case to a Grand Jury. They then review the circumstances and decide whether there may have been, and decide whether to file charges.
What they are doing is standard procedure in every court of the land and the sensationalist bulls**t biased media is stirring s**t, causing this to become a 'racial' issue, which is an absolute crock.
We all know the media is completely impartial of course, and never has an agenda of their own. They just report the news......
Right......
Who cares if she is black. If she is at fault, she is at fault. Once these stupid people realize that, that might get a life. Stop being upset because your check from the government hasn't come in yet for reporations. If it does come let me know, because I'm going to buy stock in KFC, Cadillac, and some Colt 45 malt liquor, and live off the stocks!!
How dare you sir imply that we have an agenda. You must be a white devil and unfit to judge an oppressed black woman.
This is what the problem is with our media today. People who are not even involved with this horrible situation are out there casting their opinions into the pot. For all we know Brandy has been in constant communication with the family of the woman who died, asking for their forgiveness. She may have even paid for the funeral. No one knows but the people involved, so everyone who is turning this into a black/white scenario shame on you. It just reminds me of the little boy who cried wolf all the time. When something of a true racial injustice does happen no one believes because this call has been yelled too many times in places where it should not be.
Yeah, she is in such constant contact, that they have already decided to file a wrongful death lawsuit against Saint Brandy.
Every time one of these celebrities breaks the law, including killing other motorists by slamming into them from behind, the NAACP claims it has something to do with race. That reminds me of a guy I knew a few years ago, and when I told him I couldn't stand being around him, he said 'that's because I am a Black man'. I said, 'ahem, no, it is because you are an a-hole'. Why do African Americans insist on playing the race card every time they turn around? Do they feel as if they should not be prosecuted for crimes they commit? Do they feel they should receive preferential treatment when they break laws and kill people? Do they feel that forever forward, they should be immune from prosecution because someone in their family tree suffered in their life a hundred years ago? It is going from the ridiculous to the sublime. Flash: If you break the law, hit someone from behind in a car, you are automatically at fault, and the applicable laws are reviewed. We don't care if you are Caucasian, Afro American, Indian, green with purple polka-dots. Grow up and take responsibility for your life and quit asking everyone else to do it for you.
Ohh, and some of you people are whackjobs. Jeez...
It w@s tEh BuShZ F@uLT ! ZOMGWTFBBQ !!!!!1!one
Not everything n the world is a conspiracy you loons. You've got to love the SaddamBushhitlerHalliburtonHurricaneMachine crowd. They can't construct a reasonable arguement so they resort to stupid ad hominem comments and completely irrelevant references.
This is how the law WORKS, get a clue. Prosecutorial discretion is PART OF IT you retards and for a REASON.
It must be hard being so stupid and clueless.
Kerry could still win the stolen election too, I hear...
*rolls eyes*
although it was an accident...the picture here is neglect...she still caused someone to die by slamming into their vehicle...guess if i see someone in traffic i dont like i should speed up and slam into them and say ooops...it was an accident....she needs to take responsablty for her actions and serve time in the pokey...lets see if she drives again
Now lookee here. This is the clearest case of racialogical prosecution I have ever seen.
Been to your KKK meeting lately?
Was the victim black or white?
Speed kills.
Whach you talkin bout Willis? I is a member of the NAACP.
I just received a beautiful graphite (black) driver from my sponsor; it is a killer. I am going to name it Brandy.
How is she being targeted because of her celebrity status or being black?
CHP has compiled the evidence and presents to the DA who then decides to proceed with charges. A jury of her peers will determine quilt or innocence.
Based on the charges, the most severe punishment is 1 year in jail. But realistically, the average Joe would get a year of probation, driver education, and 1000-2000 community service.
This assumes that she was not distracted while driving. Talking on phone, putting on make up, eating, etc. All can be proven.
Because of her financial status, she will face a Wrongful Death suit.
This was an unfortunate accident. Could it have been prevented? We don't know, we don't have all the facts. But keep this in mind...
...On your way home from work today, when you look down to see the radio button to push, you can just as easily miss the fact that the driver in front of you has slowed suddenly. Do you deserve to go to jail for hitting the lottery of the unlucky? Again, assuming you were not distracted as stated above.
Well, I'm going to say that Zari & American Girl pretty much summed up what I'm thinking- and if ANYTHING, things seem to be moving 'slower' in the investigation- could be because of special 'celebrity' treatment?? This whole situation didn't have anything to do with race until the HOPE group spoke up.
No matter what the outcome, I'm sure she will get special treatment solely for her celebrity status.
And I have to think that applies to ANY & ALL 'celebrities' that break the law or are involved in unfortunate situations.
Shame on all the people who keep spouting their racial thoughts of how they think black people are. This is why we need to educate ourselves about each other and get to know someone of a different ethnicity, if we all did this, it would not be so easy to sit behind a computer and type things like buying stocks in the cadillac and KFC companies, because that's the only image you have been feed or have chosen to see. only someone who is misinformed and miseducated would put negativity like that into the universe. Stop believing everything you see about black from the evening news or in music videos our communities are just like everyone elses with hardworking people and families. Living day to day.
I'm white, I'm not a fan of hers, I barely know who she is. I am not saying she should get off, but from what I read, she did admit to being at fault. She didn't blame anyone else. That's taking responsibility in my eyes. I have to give Brandy credit for that.
hate kills
That's right. Not all black people grab their crotch, say 'know what I'm saying', sell drugs, drive cadillacs, eat fried chicken, or kick ass at all sports except hockey. Just take lovely stroll down me and bask in the family culture.
So.. if someone rear-ended Brandy on the freeway hard enough to send her car into another lane and be killed ... then you would say 'that person should go free, it was an accident' ? I don't think so!
I wish I was black so I could get affirmative action and special treatment.
Brandy kills.
you know...It is amazing how the word and the fact that someone is black is thrown around to get away with things. I understand this was an accident and that should be Brandy's defense (unless she was talking on the phone or doing her make up) but the 'being black' defense should not be included in that. Leave the racial issues out just focus on what exactly happened. Maybe the police did misjudge who was to blame for the accident but that happens with 'white' people too (maybe misjudged from an African american cop), and you don't hear anyone accusing the police that 'they accused me because I was WHITE.' People should just focus on the truth not turn this into a stupid political, racial issue. SOMEONE DIED, some children lost their mother, what does politics and race have anything to do with it...!!!
i see dead people
I wish I was blacker so I could get special treatment too.
i didn't think there was any black leaders left in L.A. i thought it was all latino's.Then second of all i don't want ANY help from a muslium.If that would have been mel gibson people would have been calling 'hang that jew hating racist white millionaire'.black people need to get up,get educated,and get civilized.there is a reason 75% of the prison population is black,and it's not because the system is racist,there's a reason africa didn't have a written language till the white man came along,for the same reason the majority of unemployed are black and on goverment asst. programs.People need to get off the
'i need help because i'm black,my family were slaves 4 generations ago, and i can't help myself, the goverment should take care of me because i'm a victim of oppression.'---GET REAL,GET UP,GET A JOB,
blacker?
Being so black that your purple is awesome ... where the white women at.
Since when did not paying attention to the road become an 'accident'? Brandy hit the back of another car becuase she was not paying attention to the road, who cares what the reason is, she should be brought to justice and thrown in jail and be held accountable for not paying attention to the road. Her inability to watch traffic in front of her caused the deth of a mother, I don't care what race you are and I am sick to deth of hearing how unfair it is. How fair is it that the young children now have to grow up without a mum, that her life was cut short becuase of some idiot not watching the road. This is no accident folks, this is manslaughter in the fullest extent.
If that person was doing everything they are suppose to do while driving, then yes.
But let the evidence and the law determine that, not us. We weren't there, we don't have all the facts.
I am not saying she should go clean as a whistle, but let the punishment fit the crime. Intent and negligence is the key here.
It does not surprise me that they are trying to get her out of taking responsibility for killing someone. I mean after all she did Kill someone. Does that not mean anything to anyone anymore? If she gets off on these charges she is no better than the common murderer. Why is that when you have fame and money you don't have to own up to your responsibilities. What is this world coming to
johnson, intent and negligence go to different crimes.
I keep seeing the word 'accident', but that is not the claim here. Hitting a stopped car from behind at 45 mph is not an 'accident', it's negligence; hence the manslaughter charge.
I agree she should not be unfairly targeted, and I do not believe she is. Under the law, she is to be filed with the charges set forth, as with any resident arrested on the same count. The judge and/or jury will decide her fate.
Celebrities are people too, and they make bad decisions, and those decisions have consequences. The difference being, she's has the opportunity to positively impact those who idolize her by letting them see no one is above the law and driving is a privilige and a responsibility.
Is there anyone out there that believes that a black celebrity will be treated the same as the rest of us.If you do your nuts.
This legal consequences of this vehicular homicide should not be blames on race.
The law should be applied fairly whether one is black or white. I can only hope that the jury will weigh all the evidences.
I don't recall reading that she was stopped.
If she was stopped, where was she stopped, in a travel lane.
The police said Brandy was traveling 65 at the time of the accident. That is legal speed for the highway where I live.
I have a good friend who had a similar accident happen--never had a traffic ticket in his life, first one was a tragedy. First, nobody does jail time for an offense like Brandy's (short of being under the influence). Second, and understandably, he has been crushed by this event--as is his wife. Finally, and most importantly, there is a grieving family that is missing a loved one.
Brandy's tragic accident has left two families jurt and grieving. However, this tragedy would not have occurred if we would just deport all the illegals. Andale, andale.
She must have hit rear of the at 60 MPH to knock it into another lane. Was she distracted?
You people are hysterical. Like Kremer when he's not doing Seinfeld.
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