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By Stone Martindale Jan 28, 2007, 6:21 GMT
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I pray for our TROOPS ever day and my pray is for the safe return of all envolved in this terrible WAR!!!!
HOWEVER I WOULD NOT GO SEE JANE FONDA SUPPORT ANYTHING FOR ANY REASON. SHE IS A WASTE.
lET HER GO SET ON A TANK OVER THERE IN IRAQ AND SEE HOW LONG SHE LAST OVER THERE!!!! I may help pay the cost if her ex hasband doesn't pitch in......
she is a JOKE.....I'm fighting within to be NICE in my comments toward her but she is NOT deserving of any positive remark from me.
Go set on a tank Jane but firt let the fighters be in the air, 'LOOKING' for such tanks to take out....it may help the many disrespected souls from the 60-70's.....you piece of dung
personally, i'm sick and tired of hearing from these'people' that make a living by 'acting' as though they are someone else.get out of that dream land you live in and get behind our country, or get out and leave the rest of us alone. let our ears rest a bit from yor knowledge of nothing.
Well Hanoi Jane finally said something that I agree with, she didn't learn anything from the VietNam war. Isn't it odd that the anti-war crowd is actually condeming freedom. Apparently we will be fighting the war on our soil if the anti-war, anti-America, anti-reality loonies get their way. Liberalism is a mental disorder.
I fully agree with Tom, this poor excuse for a woman raises her ugly head again but still enjoys all the liberties that these poor bastards have faught for her, and her cronies to enjoy.
Its about time the public started showing up and voicing dissent. We've had our heads buried in sand way too long and need to show the world that there are intelligent citizens of this country who are apalled at the actions of our cowboy dictatorship. I don't care if its actors or not - the message is what matters.
I pray for our TROOPS ever day and my pray is for the safe return of all involved in this terrible war!!!
Jame please go to Iraq and set on a tank and protest the war...see how long you last over there.
Give our Troops the extra boost to ensure total distruction of any tank you may be seated on.
WE remember your support for the last war you protested....MOST didn't what your type of surrport then nor do they want it now....
happy flying
Hello Tom Carol
If Jane Fonda is a piece of shit as you wrote, the the entire electorate of George W. Bush has shit where other have brain.
We has our Adolf Hitler and the majority of Germans has been behind him, until 1945 once we have seen what monster he and his 'group' has been.
In the United States of America, which we all love and only since Bush is hated worldwide, the pitty is, that only about 10% use their brain and this we can see in the development , inventions, internet, Spacial etc. The United States is an example where we all look on, but since about 1975 , the same Nation has degenerated, a white Klu-Klux British Monarchy has taken the power and manipulate peoples like you to.
I am at 56 not interested in this Bush - Iraq private war. I would be interested to know about what 'your' Bush make to get this Monster Bin Laden, not why he send 20,000 jobless street boys more to Iraq. Maybe Bush thinks here more about a cleaning of the United States from peoples who think Jane is a piece of shit..:-)
You see Tom, they entire world looks at the United States as war criminal, and this not because Vietnam starts over again, but because Bush and Co. is to stupid to get the mastermind of 9/11, and maybe this is the reason whu Ms. Fonda also is back on the street...
H. Duthel, German Author
Behind our country.
With our country.
Support our troops.
etc etc.
Our country is not the president. Our country is not one cabinet's decision to attack a soveriegn nation, whether or not it was to distract a group of terrorists from attacking the U.S., something I've only heard explained after all the other explanations stopped working.
Our country is just as much the people who say 'No War' as those who say 'We must not waver once we are commited.' Our country is each and every soul who lives within and without it, and holds that citizenship in our country. Each and everyone. Our country is so many things, why would you try to limit it to only those who support a war in Iraq?
Thousands of people get together, because they believe that the country is doing the wrong thing, that the cost is too high, both in lives lost and otherwise irrepairably damaged, as well as the ability for our country to bring the peace of democracy to our world. Yes, it is a noble thing to help give everyone their voice.
But if you support this war, one meant to establish an a long lasting ally/democratic stronghold in a resource rich area of the world, if you profess to also wanting to spread democracy there, to help give those people the right to speak their views, then please realize that we still have that right here, in our country.
What purpose does it serve to say a person is an idiot, a fool, or insane? If you truly believe in what you support, say that. Explain why you do. Listen to the other views. Let yours change if something clicks into place in your mind. That's what an argument is supposed to bring, an agreed upon idea afterwards. How long do we need to continue saying, 'You are wrong, because I cannot be.'
An actress, a doctor, a writer, a janitor, a farmer, an office supply salesman, we all have the same right to speak our minds. So if you do decide to speak in insults, then yes, you have that right. All the power to you. Our soldiers are defending that as well.
But is that what you want? Do you want our soldiers, our family, our friends, to be protecting your insults? Or should what they be protecting have some value higher than your desire to spread your inflammatory dislike of someone's actions?
Wow there are some 'freedom loving' fascists on here all right! Yeeehaaaaw! There are those who would go so far as to say hang her? You are just as bad as Saddam if that's your idea of a solution. All good democracies give room for criticism of the administration! just silence your critics huh? Is that your idea of justice in this modern world? good ole' hangin'? WOW. you need to try and see that this administration has L.I.E.D. to the people and you are so quick with the blame game that you can't even recognize any of the points you might agree with from other viewpoints. But some of you can already lay blame to Jane Fonda of all people! hah! of all people you use Jane Fonda as your scapegoat of anger and fear of the world thats being created through this blooodshed in IRAQ. Some of you are letting panic and fear take hold of you and are forgetting or never have tried rational questioning of what you've been told. Everyone gets told bullshit in their lifetime and it takes very careful skepticism and the experiencing of different situations to achieve a fuller spectrum of consciousness and appreciation for life. Try it, it's great fun if you give living a chance.
We've got to take a different approach to win this thing. Perhaps lessons learned from some of history's greatest activists could be helpful now, such as the highly successful Martin Luther King:
http://geekswithblogs.net/lorint/archive/2007/01/15/103680.aspx
H. Duthel,
Please crawl back to whatever Nazi or Socialist German hole you came from and consider learning to speak proper English before you post anything about America and America's President. Your understanding of world affairs and personal morals is something that can be excused at 16, but at 56 it makes you someone with a mental disorder.
Jane Fonda is misguided at best - we all want an end to WAR. We all want peace and goodwill towards fellow men. But when angry, delusional, psychotics blow up women and children they must be stopped. And the only way to do it, is to kill them. That is the harsh reality of the war in Iraq and the war on terror.
Which is all to say, Jane Fonda and her fellow protestors are worse then misguided. They are heartless, stupid, obtuse, rebelious fiends, whose self importance has completely out weighed their ability to see. They do not respect the bravery of American soldiers who fight in Iraq if they do not respect their mission and the belief that most of the servicemen share. They wish that the mission to bring democratic freedom and human rights in Iraq fails, just so they can tell themselves they were right again - war doesn't solve anything. Well, you stupid stupid people, if the war is won, it actually solves everything - WWII.
So now they are protesting reinforcements and a more decisive strategy. They want to bring the boys home and abandon the mission. Well, it will make for good anti-war movie drama, won't it? Nothing like making victims out of America's bravest and strongest to justify your own choices for not serving your country.
It might be a good idea for those attacking Jane Fonda to dig deeper in the ugly role The US has played in theVietnam War .Never have the US defended democracy in Vietnam at all.They were in fact cooperating with military dictators set in place by them .Diem and Thueu have never been anything else than puppets manipulated by Johnson and Nixon .Never those dictators had any solid support from the population they were supposed to represent .They and their croonies were making huge profits on the back of their population,one of the most corrupt regimes existing in the world during the sixties and seventies.How can anybody explain the fact that the US with its mighty army was booted out of Vietnam by an army of peasants and if there was not a massive support from the Vietnamese population for the Vietcong and the north-vietnamese army .
Are many people aware of the fact that the Vietnamese war,just like the Iraqi also started on false accusations that the north vietnamese attacked a ship from the US Navy ?
Nowadays we have the Internet and it is relatively easy to separate facts from fiction .Perhaps an opportunity for those americans still waving the star spangled banner to dig into history and find out the dirty role their army and leaders have played in various parts of the world in modern history .
At least JaneFonda has the brains and the courage to oppose those who manipulate you all .Truth is there is no such thing as My country right or wrong ,that is just propaganda appealing on your testosterone ,not your brains .
Question: what sort of compensation does the US government pay to the families of those young soldiers who died in this criminal war of aggression that only serves the monetary purposes of a clique of ultra-rich neocons and their accomplices?
I always understood that the President of the United States of America was the Servant of the People who was called to do Will of the Nation...not some dangerous insane madman who refuses to listen to 70% of his own countrymen, the Senate and Congress, but instead, listens to the 'Voice of God' inside his head telling him to bomb other countries.
I think Cheney got it right the other day when he said ,with sarcasm, to the Senate
'There's nothing you can do to stop us!
The last time I said 'George Bush' added up to 666 in hebrew, there were howls of derision ...but to date no-one has proved me wrong.
America, you've unleashed the biggest monster on the world since Adolf Hitler.and its too late to stop it.........too late.
God have mercy on our souls.
Using the United States armed forces as some kind of 'decoy' to attract terrorists and other criminals to shoot at them in Iraq is one hell of plan. While I think it was a great idea to use the 9/11 as a 'reason' or excuse to invade Afghanistan and Iraq, I just think it's almost a crime, that they have have done such a terrible job of carrying out the missions.
Where's Bin Laden? Why can't we 'fix' Afghanistan? Where's all the money really going?
Why is the Iraqi government still not up and running? How is it that Iraq was supposed to be such a great Military power, but now all of a sudden we can 'train' security forces - even after 3 years?
The real 'crimes' here are not what the US 'wanted to do' - the crime here, is the complete failure of everyone having anything to do with fiasco and their brazen arrogance, stupidity and failure in every case on anything to do with 'war.'
Even a good cause, must be abandoned, when it is run by an incompetent idiot!
What a wonderful woman. The best actress of her generation. How many lives has she saved? How many underpreviledged has she helped? She has taken a stand against the military industrial complex running the country even when it was against her self interest. Compared to the fascists running the country she will go down in history as one of the great leaders of her day.
They have tried to smear her name and she still stands upright.
I can't beleive that our troops are overseas fighting for us and keeping the terrorist over there, and you idiots are complaining. If they were not there the fight would come here. You guys need to wake up and get over the last two elections. Bush is our President and if either one of the leberal canidate would have won we would have had many 9/11's since. They are hurting our troops moral and keep our enemies thinking we will fold if they put enough body bags on the news. How many of those dead soliders did Jane, Hisbolah Sean, and Timm, and his worst half cause to happen. They listen to these idiots and think that we are weak and don't have what it takes to beat them. Go back to you dream land and let the experts fight the war and keep us safe from the terorist.
Dear flag waver
Perhaps you can explain how he fighting in Iraq helps in the fight against terrorism,you failed to bring forward any argument ,resulting to a logorea of insults and accusations against those involved in the protest against an illegal war . Is thereany way you can argument your reasonong based on logicalexplanation .How did the war in Iraqprevent an eventual attackin the US ?That would be a good start.Now try to be more convincing and do some thinking
Lets see if I can explain it where ever you could understand. While I troops have been over there. Terroist have flocked into the fight of Iraq. We have not had a 9/11 since. Duh do you get that
it seems that siplistic reasoning has a thight grip on a majority of the american people nowadays.Major international events which evade the comprehension capacities of most unskilled people not willing to invest enough time in studying these events are condensed to fit the mental framwork of simpletons.Hence the statements of patriotism,prayers,slogans and simplistic reasoning brought forward by neocons,fox networksand the likes.
Before the amirican invasion of Iraq therewas no Al Quada there ,now there is ,who should we thank for that if not Bush,tell me flag wavers of the US ?
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