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By Stone Martindale Dec 9, 2006, 22:54 GMT
Rosie O'Donnell: Lighten up Asians
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It is not funny. We need to eliminate these words from our mouths. The 'N' word needs to stop being used also. Asians are not being sensitive, we're being reactive.
Here are pigs discussing their own kind:
'Oink oink, Rosie O'Donnell, oink oink, oink, oink, The View. SNORT!'
OK, onto more serious comments:
For those of you who say 'lighten up' or as Piggy O'Donnell's rep, Cindi (Ham)Berger puts it, 'they can't grasp her humor,' let me tell you to GROW UP.
I've noticed that some of you here have mentioned that you don't get offended at Italian jokes even though you're Italian. But what about the Italians who ARE offended? The fact is that we can't assume that everyone is going to be desensitized when it comes to ethnic humor.
And the sad fact is that Asians, unlike white ethnic minorities in the U.S., are visible minorities. We are still ignored at best, and at worst, bullied, harrassed, and sometimes even killed on account of our race (e.g., the murder of Vincent Chin). According to a study made in 1990 on race perceptions, roughly 70% of white Americans still have a somewhat or very negative view of Asians and Asian-Americans, despite the fact that they supposedly admire Asians for their 'family values' and respect for education.
In effect, we Asian-Americans have not become as desensitized to ethnic humor as we'd like to because we are still dealing with racism with on occasional, and sometimes even frequent basis. Until we get no longer get passed over for promotion, get asked 'Where are you REALLY from,' the phrase 'ching chong' is going to continue to be a sore point with us.
All of you idiots out there that think Rosie was not being offensive need to have your heads examined.
Bottom line is this, even in CHINA people DO NOT speak that way. In the US, Asian Americans grew up with that crap. It IS offensive, friggin apologize already and move on.
I for one am boycotting ALL ABC programs from my house and I am persuading all of my friends to do the same.
BOYCOTT ABC!!!
My blood boils every time I read something about her. The obnoxious pig brings Tom Selleck on just so she can bash him and the NRA and then has her own body guards carry guns. Real Ones. With Bullets. What the hell do you need those for Fat n' Rosie? Hypocrite.
She considers Kelly Ripa's taking that elf, Clay Aiken's, hand off her mouth an unforgivable personal statement of homophobia. Yet the hilarious comedian she is thinks other people have a problem when she takes lightly an entire culture's heritage. Why should she apologize? She an 'openly homosexual woman' so she can do what she wants to and if you criticize her, you're probably just intimidated by her gayness. Fat. Grotesquely obnoxious.
She all but campaigns for Ahmadinejad. She woudl rather see America and Isreal and She doesn't like [more like hates] America, Jews, or Asians, or straight people, or gay people with guns.
Seriously, go play in traffic.......
People should stand up for themselves. If you guys let this one slide, there will be more asian jokes and sooner or later asians will be laughing stock. When I was a student in Kansas city a white student yelled at me 'What's up CHINK'. I beat him up in front of other students and they all realized we are not going to let them treat us this way.
'People should stand up for themselves. If you guys let this one slide, there will be more asian jokes and sooner or later asians will be laughing stock. When I was a student in Kansas city a white student yelled at me 'What's up CHINK'. I beat him up in front of other students and they all realized we are not going to let them treat us this way.'
Good for you, Island Guy.
The problem is that in the past, we Asians have been too nice to whites (and others), letting them get away with verbal and physical abuse. This is why they feel entitled to bash us, bully us, and harass us.
I remember the time an old white guy (probably high on Viagra?) called me 'chink' as he got off the bus. I immediately replied 'white trash.' And he looked at me with such shock but didn't say anything: no doubt thinking how dare some Asian--and a woman, at that--answer back.
I don't condone physical or verbal violence for the most part. But sometimes, drastic problems require drastic solutions.
You have got to be kidding. Everygroup gets made fun of on Saturday night live and other comedy shows. The View is not a news program and those who think it is should have more than there funnybone checked. Why are we so focused on these small issues when there are so many larger issues. Everyone needs to take themselves less seriously or we may as well have a no comedy, no comments talk show. Thatwould be fun wouldn't it?
Kate--
'The View is not a news program and those who think it is should have more than there funnybone checked.'
It's not a news program, but it is a program that has many viewers and hence has a great deal of influence.
'Why are we so focused on these small issues when there are so many larger issues.'
Because it IS a significant issue. Whatever Rosie says, 'ching chong' is a mockery of another ethnicity and race. And this is especially important, as I said earlier, because Asians have not been assimilated into American society the way that WHITE ethnic minorities have. Acts of callousness, violence, and injustice are perpetrated against Asians than on whites--merely on account of their ethnicity and race. If you're German-, Italian- or Irish-American you do not have people constantly bullying you (or at least, it tends to stop in junior high) or passing you over for recognition and promotion. For instance, even now, Asians usually need far higher test scores and grades to get into the more selective universities than do those with obviously Western surnames like O'Malley, Macdonnell, Berger, Jones, etc.
True, being called 'ching-chong' is not the same as racial genocide and does not rank with the horrors of the war in Iraq. But it is borne from the SAME impulse: namely, the derogation of a non-white race.
With only a few minor exceptions, Western history has been nothing but a string of atrocities against non-white peoples, whether it's slavery of the African people or the pillaging and destruction of Chinese palaces (where the Chinese were turned into servants in their own nation)or the attempted genocide of Jews. It's the merciless bombing of Cambodia and Vietnam (in which more bombs were dropped there than in WW2 Europe) in the 1970s. And now, it's the senseless war in Iraq: where more atrocities are committed against the Iraqis than the stupid senseless Saddam himself.
White people need to get their head out of their asses if they really believe that jokes against non-whites are just jokes. If your people had been enslaved, taunted, bullied, exterminated, you would know better.
Sorry, wrote my post too quickly and should have stated instead:
--calling people 'ching-chong' does not rank with racial genocide or the horrors of the war in Iraq.
--where Bush and Blair have committed more atrocities than Saddam himself against the Iraqis.
Anyone who isn't Asian or Asian American: yes, that means the so-called best friends of Asians, as in 'I have a friend who is Asian, who may or may not be offended' or, Asian-by-osmosis, as in, 'I married/date/only go out with Asians even though I am not one myself.' All of you. You don't have a dog in this fight.
You haven't had the same experience of what we experience. You don't go through what some of us have gone through. You don't listen the comments or hateful things said to us. You don't hear or experience the things that are said or done to us over the generations, the media images of Asians propagated by Hollywood to the world, the ideas floating around still in people's minds about who the Asians or their ethnic groups are, that are expressed in these comments below.
You have no right to speak for those of us who are Asian and Asian American. So, shut up.
Because, let's face it, no one asked the blacks if they were offended when people used to call them the N-word, or boy, or by their first names only. Why should we be any different in demanding equal treatment?
'get a grip'??
Hmm, i think barbara walters made a huge mistake in hiring rosie to be on the 'view'. Since she has been on the show there seems to be alot of drama. just today i read that Donald Trump is suing her because of comments she made about him on the show. Then there is the Kelly ripa incdent, then there is the Asain comment incident. Ms. walters need to talk to ms. odonnell about her mouth. However ms. odonnell always say it is her opinion ad she can speak her mind, but sometimes it is best to keep quiet. Now i know people who never watched the View and they say that they watch it to see what rosie 's big mouth is going to say. hey, maybe ms. walters knew that having rosie on the show would be controversial and will bring in ratings, but on the flip side her mouth can also cause ratings to slip and lawsuits.
It said 'The use of the distorted phrases is insulting to the chinese and chinese americans. ive never heard a chinese person say ching chong !
'CHING CHONG'!!! There I said it!......And I'm Asian. OMG, for gods sake..........get over it already! Does anyone really give a crap what a fat, ugly, dike says on national TV???? We all know she is an ignorant PIG..........so what does that make us........to dwell sooooo deeply into her idiotic comments???
All those who agree, should petition her removal from 'The View' and any future talk shows!
Lighten up? Shut up Rosie! Im Asian and I find it very rude. What's with americans these days making fun of Asians? I ride my bus to high school, and I keep hearing these whites, blacks, and mexicans talking mess about Asians, how they talk funny when they say 'Ching Chong' all the time. Well guess what? we dont always use ching chong in our language. There is Japanese, and there isnt ching chong in it. But with Chinese yeah, we may say ching chong in the middle, but there is things we say besides that.
Rosie is a dumb crack head to mention. We do have a sense of humor! You just don't realize it, becuase you all are so busy making fun of us! Cant wait to leave america.
If we didnt have a sense of humor, we'd be broke, and all of Asia would be fallen apart! But its not! Its wonderful in Asia! Asia didnt do anything to america, and yet the make fun of us!!! Just Like Rosie for example! That stupid doughnut! Asia is a beautiful place with good people. Look at bush, your stupid president! He sends his army to Iraq to kill people everyday! and soon america will be torn apart if bush doesnt get impeached by your votes and by his republicans! Rosie is a fat lard american!
I think the View has really gone down hill since Rosie joined the cast I enjoyed this show until it got so NASTY and Rosie is the reason it will go down. I hope Donald Trump buys it and gets rid of her.
To Rosie and all those of you who don't fully understand where this 'deragatory' statement comes from and why 'it is' offensive:
'Ching Chong is an ethnic slur directed at people of Chinese ancestry.It is most frequently encountered in the United States, Canada, New Zealand and Australia.
Possible origin of the word is that of a bastardization of the Chinese noun Ching Chao, which literally translates as 'Ching Dynasty.' The prevalant usage of this insult began during the gold-rush eras of 18th Century in Ballarat, Australia, when the Chinese gold-prospectors were of Ching Dynasty origin.
Sometimes 'ching chong' is combined with 'Chinaman'; the combination is often used in nursery-style rhymes, such as:
Ching Chong Chinaman sitting on a fence
Trying to make a dollar out of fifteen cents.
Along came a choo-choo train,
Knocked him in the cuckoo-brain,
And that was the end of the fifteen cents.'
The gold rush incidents spur on a series of 'Hate Crimes' which resonates to this very day---as demonstated by ignorant usage of the word 'Ching Chong' by 'Has Been' comedians.
So, for all you ignorant folks out there who think Asians should 'Lighten up'
Look into your ancestry and see if your ancestors were one of these idiots who tormented our 'Asian American' brothers
Rosie should show sincerity when she apologizes, In the catch up show where she did, she also noted that she asked her 'Asian American' assistant if she was offended by her statement to which she said the assistant said no.... then Jill, who is also on the show, proceeds to poll 2 asians in the audience, the same question with the same answer...
Come On! View, just apologize without the fanfare. It's Sooooo Insincere!!!!
Its these acts of idiocy that propells and keeps this stereotype alive and have ignorant people believe its ok to joke on offensive racial lines--and actually think its funny.
this is to rosie o donnel (You) Ate up all the damn pizza
(Are) Which Burger King you go to?
(Not) Just to fill up ya belly
(Funny) No need to prove ya heavy
Why waste time to state the obvious
Ya audience is obviously just as idiotic
You imposter of a comic
I never seen The View, don't wanna see if it's true
That it's you that most likely has a penis in the crew
You non-joke-telling, shaped like a middle line backer
Special guest on the season finale of Fear Factor
But you gotta do more than eat a roach
Wanna win 50 thousand? Stick ya tongue down her throat
No thanks, I turn down the offer cuz it's wrong
Honestly, I'd rather see Barbara Walters in a thong
Don't get it twisted, I ain't shallow how with these misses
But she couldn't turn the lights on if you showed her where the switch is
-Jin-
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