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Katie Holmes' baby talk ban?
Apr 11, 2006, 15:12 GMT
Katie Holmes has been banned from speaking to her baby for a week after it is born, it has been reported.
The pregnant actress has agreed not to talk to her new arrival, believed to be a girl, for at least seven days after she has entered the world, in accordance with fiance Tom Cruise's Scientology beliefs.
Katie, who is due to give birth any day, has already promised Tom she will deliver the child in complete silence, and she will also have very little contact afterwards.
A source told Britain's Closer magazine: "Katie respects Tom's dedication to Scientology. She is devoted to him and wants to bring up the child the Scientology way."
L. Ron Hubbard - the founder of the strange sci-fi cult - writes in the religion's creed, that all followers must live by, that new born babies must not hear their mother speak for a week so they will not associate their voice with the trauma of birth.
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He is absolutley iiinsanely inhuman. How could tom believe in such ways to treat a new born. It is his child and it needs its mother. He is wacked out totaly. I will not ever buy his movies again or care to see him. He must be a very good lay or she does not know any better.
I cannot believe the stuff that is out there about this upcoming birth. I am a Scientologist and have given birth to 4 kids (all in their 20's and very happy).The part about being quiet with very little words spoken while delivering is true. That you cannot talk or have contact with the child is not! I never post on these but that one really is over the edge and so far out there that I had to. Do not believe everything you read. Births that adhere to Scientology philosophy are pretty damn normal, as is the bonding afterwards.
Talk about freakie! His guy is sick. He needs to try going through labor and not making a sound! We should boycott all his movies. Especially his upcoming MI-III.
Tom Cruise has totally lost his mind. If the Scientologist noter is correct, then Tom is just making up his version of the religion as he goes along. I want to know what happened in April of last year when Katie 'disappeared' for two weeks and then returned, starry eyed and in love. My bet is that she was brainwashed by Tom and cohorts. I'd also bet that the baby has none of Tommy boy's DNA. I sure wish Katie's parents would open up and talk to the press, but no doubt they've been threatened, as has Tom's ex, Nicole. Tom is one scary dude.
Where is Katie's family? Someone needs to step in and save her from this freak. Tom may have just taken the award for biggest freak away from Michael Jackson once and for all.......
If tom wants complete scilence and no drugs, I say he gives katie something to squeeze when she would rather be screaming through a contraction. (and I'm not talking about his HAND!) Then lets see how much silence there is in the room!!!
Kate is out of her mind. I have three children and i could not have waited a day or two before i held them or a week before i talked to them.. What if something i wronge with the baby, i dont know how they can wait a week before the gave the baby medical tests. Some one needs to save Kate from that crazy man.
Tom Cruse is not normal!
This is horrible!!!!!! I cannot believe this is happening. I thought Katie's father was a attorney with some brains. Where is her family? Why are they letting this go on? Katie better wake up to the real world instead of living Tom's life. He thinks he is so wonderful and women just throw themselves at him. He is a sad excuse of a man. Tom can say all he wants, but Katie will not be his last love. She is only there to give him a child. WAKE UP KATIE!!!!
A baby needs to be nursed as soon as possible after birth to start the bonding process and encourage proper latching on. Does scientology have anything against breastfeeding? You can breastfeed without talking, but why would you? This is the most precious bonding time in the world. And who said birth is traumatic to the baby? I'm an obstetrician, and the mother is the one who feels the pain and does the work, quite willingly usually, because the result is so precious. The pain is forgotten in minutes, and many are back next year!
Let's pray Katie has an easy and healthy labor and delivery, and her baby is healthy. Remember, prior to modern medicine, 1 in 4 women died in childbirth. This is not an insignificant number. Despite ridiculous malpractice rates and high C section rates, we're not losing mothers and babies anymore, and that is one of the most significant advances of the twentieth century. Don't treat obstetricians as lazy, greedy plumbers. We are the link to the next generation, that should be at least as important as one's plastic surgeon. I hope those around around the couple know their true birth plans, and that they are reasonable, safe and have backup plans for immediate emergency intervention if necessary. One doesn't get to Tom's stature in life by being stupid, hopefully the rumors exagerrated. Good luck to them both!
I am sorry but this has nothing to do with scientology, it has everything to do with being a control freak. Katie run like heck away from this relationship while you can. Telling someone how to act, speak, and be in life is not a healthy relationship nor is it love no matter what the situation is.
Signed been there and done that.
I feel sorry for Katie
I cannot believe that Katie has fallen for this bull. A baby should immediately hear its mother's voice - it is the only bonding it has had for the nine months inside the mother. I think Tom Cruise has not only lost it, but probably never 'had it' in the first place. What in the heck is going on with Katie that she could love a guy so much as to keep her away from her baby. I think he is jealous of the baby - and wants Katie to himself. Poor baby - what parents you have chosen.
Anyone that suggest isolation is good for a new born has done very little research on relationships and maternal bonding. The days immediately after birth are crutial developmental times. A new borns sense of security, self worth, mental and emotional well being can severly be affected. Sorry Tom, mental stability and emotional security can't be bought. Allow Katie the wonderful gift she has been given in her new born baby. Katie, stand up for yourself girl. Embrace, sing to and enjoy your new little gift from God!!!
Poor Kate Holmes must have lost her mind. No man could keep me from bonding with my child from the first minute.
What in the hell is Scientology? I was interested in finding out only because Tom Cruise, John Travolta & Kelly Preston (naming a few) were among the answers. Knowing what he is going to do to Kate & that she is going to allow it, oh my gosh 'Is this Legal? Kate come on, I'm a catholic also. This is way over the edge!!!!!!
Mom & Dad Holmes, we need help here.
I can not believe that anyone would think that a baby should not be spoken to by it's mother for 7 days after it has been born. That is just plain crazy..I would never give up my beliefs for my husband, I wish she would listen to her parents...Tom is not all there,,sorry Tom but some of your thinking is just plain out there somewhere...
I'm a mom of 3. I can't imagine not speaking to or cuddling my newborn baby. This is ludicrous and any mentally healthy person can see this. Obviously good ole Tommy boy is not competent enough to run his own life let alone the one of an innocent new born who can't fend for herself. And Katie,,,,,well, I'm a mom and it would take an act of God to keep me from going and taking my child back home and get her the obvious help she needs!!! At this point she's not capable either. I feel the worst for the baby. Just imagining what that child's life will be like makes me shudder!!!
OMG what is she thinking. He must have total control of her. What new mother does not want to hold her child, count their toes and fingers, run their fingers over their body, because of this joyous miracle.
Slo
Good one TB!!!! My thoughts exactly. You know--Katie can say anything she wants to right now--she has never had a baby so has nothing to judge the pain by--I myself was planing on putting on full make up and doing my hair before I went to the hospital--neither of which happened! When that first contraction hit--I thought Godzilla was trying to rip my guts out! So--has anyone said what will happen to her if she can't bne queit during the birth and if she is way too bonded to the baby to let someone take it away from her for a day--let alone not toalk to it for a week???? Hoppefully she will and that will be the end of this whole mess--Tom has to be Bi Polar---he is far to anal to think along these lines and to want his girlfriend and baby to be put thru this--while he goes thru---ahhh--nothing out of the average day for him--come on--Boycott his films--they are not that great anyway!
katie i hope you read some of this stuff, you are out of your mind, a child needs to be checked out in the first week, what if it has jaundice? within a week that child could be dead or braindead, if my daughter wasnt checked out 2 days after she was born she would be, you need to think these things over, i also held her right after she was born and shes 9 mos old and the best baby you could ask for!!!
First of all, I'm sick of hearing about Tom Cruise and Katie. What I've been reading is very sad and sick. I wonder where Katie's parents are. The girl is what? 25, 26 years old. She must have a mind of her own. Any woman who would agree to not saying a word during birth, and not touching holding, cuddling her baby after, must be brainwashed or as crazy as he is. Futhermore, where are Tom's friends? - You know, sort of say, 'hey Tom, your behavior is not normal.'
I feel sorry for Katie once the baby is born. Tom will make her life a living hell and she will never be rid of him. Seen it happen. He's sick!
I would agree to deliver Tom Cruise's baby in silence!! Only of course if I could hold onto his crown jewels to keep myself from screaming!
This would achieve two ends!! The first being that everyone would see how silent he could be whilst in great pain. The second would be to make sure that he didn't have the equipment to get me in the same position again!!
One day Katie you will see that you landed yourself a control freak!! I wish you all the best, you're going to need it!!
I,too, will not see another Tom Cruise movie. He has totally brain washed Katie and I feel so sorry for her. I held my babies and rocked them to sleep every single night. I cannot believe that Katies' parents have not stepped forward to help thie poor misguided girl/woman.
everybody have right to take any way in life... he wants live like his think, let him live his life with Katie and baby. And it is not necessery to scream during your baby come to this WORLD.. it is natural and dont need any pills. And also right, show baby after a few days, or even 3 month.. I just wish his baby be healthy
Katie Holmes grew up loving Tom Cruise. He was her Prince in all of her fairy tales. Now that she has him... she will do anything AND everything for him. If she doesnt immediatelty grab for that baby the minute it is born, the baby that shes been carrying for 9 months, then she may be lost. For now. She has to realize it on her own whats not right. Until then... no one can say a word about 'her Prince'.
There is something seriously wrong with this man. I find him extremely controlling and yet naive at the same time. Dear Katie is so star struck that she cannot see what horror she is in for. Where are her parents? Does Tom really thing that he will control Katie's every move, including the kind of mother she will be? I hope that she wakes up, real soon. I, also, will never see another one of Tom's films. I used to be a fan of his, until he showed his true colors!
I was not able to touch my son for 15 mins after he was born brcause we were saving his cord blood for my sister in law. I have always felt somethingwas missing i can not imagine not touchin him for a whole day. I feel they have to be scared being in this big old world and our voices r the only the they can reconize and would be soothing to the baby. What Nuts!!!!!!
if these two were not in the public eye, no one would care. Although I do not believe in the philosophy of Scientology; I respect another person's right to do so.
So very sad to hear this story. Baby is very vunerable at birth, and one of the few things that give them comfort is the mothers voice and closeness.
To not want to examine the baby for a week is just plain irresponsable. I suppose if something were to be wrong, that could have been prevented in the first week, it would look like child abuse. very selfish. Bringing a baby into this world is an honor and serious responsibility. Too bad, so sad.
I think that is the CRAZIEST thing I have ever hear! My son turned 2 today and I could not imagine not holding him or seeing him for a week. I think it's SICK !!!!! I think Tom has lost his flippin mind !
I don't normally comment on other people lives but I feel the need to speak on this issue. In less then 4 months Tom has managed to change Katie's religion, take her virginity, get her pregnant (without marrying her) and end her acting career. Wakeup. How can her family be over-joyed about this relationship...Of course Tom will never leave Katie why should he when he can control every aspect of her life. Poor Katie, before Tom she had her dignity now you can't pick up a tabloid without something being said about her negatively. Katie take your baby and run.
He has totally taken over her life. She doesn't hang out with her friends anymore, she lives for him. she would do anything for him because this was her first love, she had a huge crush on him and now he is hers. That is dedication. Anyone ever notice you never see pictures of her touching her stomach or holding it? I was constantly touching my stomach when I was pregnant. seems strange. The whole thing seems strange.
These 'belief's' of L. Ron Hubbard are dangerous to the newborn.
HOw ignorant can these people be to swaddle a baby and leave it alone without the comfort of it's mothers voice and presence.
How does this different from abandonment?!
How utterly sad to think of a precious child being done this way.
I think that poor Katie Holmes should run as far away as she can fron Tom Cruise and keep that innocent little child away from him if she ever wants to have any sort of life.
Women who are pregnant are under enough stress and should not be dictated to by a lunatic who believes in Science Fiction......everything he believes is contrary to her upbringing and at some point, this is going to create a very sad situation. If she leaves him now, she may have a chance. I don't think a judge in the world would side with him. All she needs to do is bring his ex-wives into court.
The situation is absurd and disasterous.
katie should run as fast as she can from this controlling closet queen!!
What we've been hearing lately about Tom Cruise's Scientologist influence over Katie Holmes sounds almost too ridiculous to be true. Having a silent childbirth, are you serious? Since when did giving birth become painless? Screaming, groaning, and crying is to be expected, and if this whole 'silence' thing is true, then it is completely ridiculous. Is the baby going to associate this with trauma too? And the whole no contact for 7 days thing---give me a break. If anything it will cause a disconnection between the mother and the baby. It has been scientifically proven that babies immediately bond with their mothers after childbirth. Plus, do any of us remember the 'trauma' of being born? I highly doubt it. Once again, this may just be media hype, but it's really not too hard to believe. I tried to defend Tom Cruise in a way, but I really feel that he is just an idiot. And the even bigger fool is Katie for letting him control something that he will NEVER experience.
tom is a control freak ,he probably doesnt want the baby to hear katies voice thinking if his is the first & only voice the baby hears for the first week it will bond with him more so than with katie.jealous-control freak-nut job!he is obviously not sane.why doesnt katie realize this is just plain crazieness?
The reality of the situation is that both of these people are mentally ill. If this is a true agreement between the two of them neither is fit to parent a newborn infant. I would hope that The Department of Children and Family Services
is aware and investigates this situation as an instance of child neglect. No newborn should experience sensory deprivation after birth.
Tom cruise is crazy a newborn need its mother for many reasons to bond to be loved etc.Anyway, i think she is too good for him.
I hope this is bull for them and Scientology. Unbelievable!
No mecial check for a week, Cruise is moore nuts than I thought. i lost a son at two days and my daughter would have died had she not had medical care within the first hours of her life. It was two weeks before I was able to hold her and that was the longest two weeks of my life. Kate should run like hell as far from this control freak as she can get while she can. I was once a fan but 'he LOST me at hello'
How awful. What a horrible, horrible way to treat a child. And to call the birth of a child 'traumatic'? I don't see how it could be anymore traumatic than being 'left alone for a day or so.' Katie's setting herself up for a severe case of postpardum. Sickening, all of it.
To follow this line of thinking on trauma at birth and associations, should a mother not give comfort and nurturance when her toddler suffers the TRAUMA of skinned knees the first time (s)he rides a tricycle,should she leave the child to others to heal the wound...and show up when the scabs fall off........should a mother disappear when a child has the flu and experiences the TRAUMA of vomiting for the first time, and call in strangers to nurture and comfort her child, etc.,etc.,....................This is Absurd thinking..........Hey Tom boy, what about the trauma of seperation from the mothers voice the unborn child has come to recognize and feel secure with... and what about abandonment issues...Katie, dearest......hope your maternal instincts overrule your boyfriends unnatural expectations and for the sake of your precious baby....You are the one who bonds first with your child and comforts and nurtures first........not some stranger!!!!!!...........Even God's animals know how to care for their young better and naturally.........
HE has gone NUTS..... Kate GET OUT ......That poor baby.....
I can't believe any 'Parent' would agree to something this nuts. Doesn't the fact that it was created by a 'sci-fi' guru give any clue! My opinion of Tom and Katie have certainly changed.
I feel so sorry for Katie and the baby! I had medical problems when I had my first child, my daughter, and I could not see her in person or hold her for 4 days, I had an infection and a fever after a C-section. I used to walk the halls and stand in front of the baby nursery and cry watching my baby and wanting to hold her, and talk to her and love her! The nurses asked the doctor to get me out of there because I was making THEM feel so badly! No woman should go through anything like that for any man!!! She'll regret it in the long run! If that is TOM'S religion, that is his business, but leave Katie alone!
bd
Tom is making Scientology seem more and more like a cult. I would love to meet the 'person' that makes up the rules for Scientologists to follow. As for Katie, she must be a little off her rocker. Supposedly, she was a devout catholic, as am I. There is no way I would ever trade my beliefs in the Lord for anyone. Nor, would I push my beliefs on others. As far as motherhood is concerned, it has been proven over and over again how important it is to bond with your child immediately after birth. As far as no medical exam for the first 24 hours, does this include the normal suctioning to clear the child's airways? My son was a full term, 7 lb. baby. During labor he endured merconium aspiration. Had my doctor not noticed the color of my water, and not had the specialists awaiting his birth, my son would have died. KATIE WAKE UP SWEETIE! LONG AFTER TOM IS GONE, YOUR CHILD IS ALL YOU WILL HAVE TO LOVE. NEVER CHOOSE A MAN, OR ANY OF HIS NONSENSE, OVER YOUR BABY!
This man has completely lost it.
I would love to interview Nicole and get her perspective.
Katie is being controlled and I cant understand how she cant be embarrassed by all this publicity of her baby and Tom.I thought she had brains atleast.
I think Tom needs a good shrink and some medication and Katie needs to smarten up alittle.
I think this scientology stuff is BS,where do people get these lame ideas?
I guess everyone has a right to thier own beliefs,but I am a sufferer of depression and its hereditary on my fathers side.I dont know what I would do with out the 'help' of medication.
I personally think this is one relationship/marriage that wont work.
Shes trying to please him and I hope those motherly instincts take over and she leaves his butt ASAP.LOL
Crazy. Tom seems determined to give Michael Jackson a run for his money. The stories and behavior just get wilder and the tabloids love it.
I will never watch a Tom Cruise movie again. What a nut job! Their marriage will never last anyway.
The press has, as usual, gone from stretching the truth to outright lying. In their obsession with celebrity births, they have turned this one into something terrible. Scientology does NOT include notions of not touching your baby for a week (or a day, or an hour!) They saw how the public ate up the news of a silent birth (and even that has been exaggerated) so they took it a step further, into the bizarre.
Due to toxic shock, I was not able to see my twins for two days after their birth, and they couldn't be more secure or loving kids. There is nothing 'missing' in their senses of security because of it, to be sure.
Shame on the press. Again.
--tonnie m.
Frankly, I think the baby was artificially insiminated......ever heard of him getting anyone pregnant including his wives. I don't think he has the equipment to father a child. He is a phoney and she needs to grab the baby at birth and run.
Dear God,please intervene before these two so called adults,do damage to this poor little soul that is entering into this world.What happened to parnets loving their babies? A child needs the loving touch and soft lo=ving words of it's parnets,most inportantly,'it's mother'.Why are these tabloids so stupid?Were thier writers dropped on thier heads at birth? Linnis in Tn.
Tom Cruise must be crazy if he thinks Katie can and will be quiet during labor. Kinda hard to do. No bonding with the child for a week is just friggin stupid. So she can't even breast feed then either? Also, I have not heard anyone ask the actor why they are not married. All the religions I know say you should be 'MARRIED' first and then have children. DUH. What's up with that? Their religion doesn't care if you get pregnant first??? I'm sorry, but that religion sounds weird and like some kind of cult. Good luck Katie on trying to keep your mouth shut while giving birth. If you two are so into this religion then why didn't you get married first? Your religion doesn't believe it's a sin???? Sounds strange to me.It's ok to get pregnant but not married. Some religion huh? I don't even go to church, but I do know that pretty much all religions think it's a sin to not be married first. That's been on my mind for a while. Tom is a control freak. By the way Tom, there is post partum depression and some people do have to rely on medicine or it drives the mother insane. Your own child could be born with a condition that requires medicine.Will you say no to that?
Katie, get a grip. I used to be a newborn nursery nurse and over the ages it has been proven that newborns need the bonding experince. The baby has heard its parents talking through out the gestation time. There are studies that show how important it is for a baby to be touched and cuddled, touched and kissed. Babys without that don't function as well becasue they don't get enough touching. I know a famly that never held their babys bottles etc. And the family was cold and heartless. Katie. This is your child. You are powerful enough in your maternal instinc to just say NO to Tom. Tom is an over bearing hyper jerk, You might feel you need to honor him. I think you need to use your own brain and give that baby all the touching and love you can give him or her. It is natural to put the baby on the mothers bellie and it works it's way up the mother to the breasts. It is natural. The mothers voice is comfort for a baby. Katie...........Please use your own brain and not listen to a cult. This could be the worst thing you could ever do to your child. You are the mother, you make this desision. The baby grew within you. take care of it when it is born. I wish you the best.
My Lord, Tom Cruise needs help, and Katie, get away as soon as you can. How can a mother go an entire week with the touch of her newborn!
I don't see how one could not talk to their baby within the first few minutes of he/she entering the world. Where is the bond? Who could she,a soon to be mother, not want to greet her baby!! The silent thing is okay, but not seeing your baby or having anything medical within the first few days is absolutely absurd. You know who is in control of this relationship. I see why her parents are concerned and hurt behind this.
I just wanted to point out that this is such a far fetched story it does not even seem realistic. Am I the only one who thinks that this is just a case of some reporter getting what they want to from some Scientology book. Did Katie say that she had agreed to this. I admit Tom Cruise seems very manipulative and 'passionate' about her and his views but it takes all kinds. Does that really make him a monster? And Nicole Kidman shares joint custody with him on the two kids. They both see them on a regular basis.
I think that everyone needs to leave Katie and Tom alone, if he is brainwashing her so what? She is doing it of her own free will, she could have walked away sooner....too bad she didnt just stay with Chris Kline though..
This is utterly revolting. There are studies that show that if a baby does not receive attention (such as talking to, hugging, kissing, cuddling) from a mother that it could result in an early death of a baby. Katie, brought up in a nice CATHOLIC family, should know what's good for her and get out of this brainwashing, controlling relationship with such a pig.
As I read these comments made on the notion that Katie has been 'banned' from speaking to her baby, I have to think of what Scientologists are thinking. They know, as I do that nobody is 'banned' from speaking to, holding, or bonding with her baby! That's not even ALMOST a rule of the religion, it's a downright lie. Why aren't people looking this up for themselves, instead of taking the word of one (soon to be in litigation, I'd guess; if not from Cruise then from the Church of Scientology. You can't just make something up and print it) far-fetching reporter? It's drama and dirty laundry and everyone wants in.
Unbelievable!
Check out this article about some of the birth ideas:
http://www.ilsehruby.at/Thetanbirth.html
I am sure they will not do anything to harm their child but this silence stuff and not talking to the baby sounds like a pile to me. People are entitled to their beliefs but they should not force them on their children.
omg that is so horrible. so inhumane.
Well I think Katie is old enough to know what is 'right' and what is 'wrong'... if she's going to fall for Tom's BS then she deserves what she gets.
It is wrong...but We'll just see how it turns out.Maybe he has a point.I don't see it now,but hes the one with the degree,so maybe he is right.
No offence to anyone writing in this but is it really any of our buisness?? I'm sure Katy is a clever enough girl to do things that are right by her. And what do any of us know about her relationship? We only hear what comes from the paparrazi which alot of the time is total bull. Being in a relationship also means to respect each others wishes. Katy respects the way Tom wants his child to be born and I'm sure Tom respects Katy's wishes in other aspects. Everybody has a view on how they want their child to be born and they obviously want to try a different approach so respect that. Tom and Katy are just another couple like anybody else. Why make a big deal?
I used to have alot of respect for Tom Cruse but he has completely turned me off by his actions as of late. I can't stand to look at him anymore and I will never see another one of his movies. I think Katie should wake up and take her baby home where she belongs now and get away from Tom and his cult. I hope and pray she does for her own sake and her childs. A man he is not!!!!!!
As a long loyal (now, former) fan of Tom Cruise, I now feel so betrayed by him and the 'all-American' image he has conveyed to audiences over the last two decades. I am truly sickened by the cult-like obsessive behavior he has displayed. He has taken his 'celebrity' power and is manipulating with it. Why is it that some actors, once they achieve stardom, self-rightouesly ordain themselves as experts of everything? I mean, they are actors with too much time and money on their hands. Perhaps they believe in the Golden Rule syndrome. . . .you know, where he who has the gold, feels he makes the rules. We have since forbidden T.C.'s name to be mentioned in our home. Nor will our children be permitted to see a Tom Cruise movie as long as we can help it. And this pretty much goes for Steven Spielberg too for endorsing so much of Tom's behavior (as evidenced in several prime time interviews) all in the name of helping his movies make even more money at the box office. Well, looks like Tom neglected to realize that the general public can and will think for themselves and cannot be controlled and/or bombarded into 'submission' by use of minders, seclusion, and mind-cleansing. Nor will we see any movie, rerun or otherwise in which he plays so much as a small supporting role.
I hope the public, by boycott of Tom's movies, is able to put their proverbial foot down and say stop the nonsense, Tom . . . . you are not God!!! And let's not forget that L. Ron Hubbard was only a science-fiction writer! Science-fiction is like fantasy, folks! Perhaps Mr. Hubbard intended for Scientology to be no more than a best-selling book on the New York Times bestseller list! My God goes way back, L. Ron Hubbard's 'Scientology' story
was born in the 1950's, and how they get away with calling it a 'church' is an abomination, when it's nothing more that a lifestyle choice. But I'm sure they get all kinds of tax breaks from our government for the clever use and inclusion of that word. . . . Disgusting.
People; This story is false.
The bit about holding the child separate from the mother for a week is a load of (insert something you don't want to step in). It's not part of Scientology and its not what Tom Cruse is doing.
Scientology is all about nurturing, bonding with and caring for one's children. The only semi-truth to this article is that there is an attempt to keep the birth as free of 'words' as possible. This is done to help the child.
This is a prime example for not trusting the media or the general web.
I am very happy to hear that Scientology does not keep the child from the Mother, after birth. I however believe very strongly that Scientology is a cult and nothing more. We Christians should be praying for all who believe in this totally non Bible teaching-----Praying for them to get out before it's too late, because without the belief that Jesus died on a cross for payment of all of our sins and went to heaven as we who believe this will do also because of God's grace. Without this belief they will go to hell. I pray they pick up the Bible and do some reading, to see the truth. Life here on earth is short. Amen
Our household will NOT be going to see any more of Tom's movies for sure. I AGREE with Anonymous and Bonnie on this one. I also believe Katie should take her baby and go home to her family before it's too late. Tom and his cult are a very SAD group in their STRANGE BELIEF....
Whoever decided that a silent birth is best for the child is crazy in the head. There has never been any proof of that what so ever. We have 6 children and they did not cone from a silent Mother giving birth to them. They are the most well adjusted, loving adults you would ever want to meet.
Tom is insane and obviously Katie is not feeling that maternal need to protect her child. Where is Katie's family? Has Tom banned them from her? I feel terrible for this child, talk about inhuman! I also feel sorry for Katie, she has given up total control of herself and care for her newborn. What a prison he has created...
As someone who is a nurse, and assists new parents, I can say that if what the media is saying is true about scientology, it goes against a mother's natural instinct AND what even medicine/studies have shown to be esential to an infant's development. Studies have blatantly shown that breastmilk is the best nutrition for an infant, whereas giving Scientology's concoction will put the baby at risk for botulism, infections, allergies, asthma, diarrhea, electrolyte imbalances, SIDS, etc etc. It makes me absolutely sick to my stomach to think that women are feeding that to their infants! Why would someone put their baby at risk to so many life-threatening illnesses? Not to mention missing out on the importance of bonding and properly completing the trust vs. mistrust stage of development, which is crucial for any infant. I truly hope that people listening to the media's stories on 'TomKat's' baby-rearing methods and do not try any of it! Otherwise our health care sytem will be inundated with severely ill, maladjusted infants. And women like Katie Holmes will be left to deal with the guilt of knowing they have not given their child the best care and nutrition possible.
Please, you guys talk bad about me here and my husband- Tom all time time. What is wrong? Dont you guys have to be somewhere? All your postings do not change a thing. I am happily married with one of the hunkiest actor of all time. You guys are nothing but jealous. Come on.. do your own thing. Tomorrow I will go for shopping with Tom in Rodeo Drive. Leave us alone!
Oh by the way, I have just finished talking to my advisor from Swiss Bank. Tom give me a couple of millions to spend. Damn, I dont want his money..only his love. Money doesnt mean anything for me now. What matters....my health and my face is all over magazine. Where is Nicole? I havent seen her for ages? Nicole is a nice lady to tell you guys but shame, she works long hours just to be in Chanel ads. Tom said she is too long in everything. I mean, thin. As for me, I have done nothing yet people talk about me all the time. Thanks guys. I am famous again. I need that because I have carried my babies for 9 months with no make up okay? God know how many nights I had to sleep without turning my back. By the way you guys like my baby crate? See I am not that lavish. I spend only 20000 dollars for my baby. Finally, I will be attending M I 3 premiere hopefully. You guys dont have wait for me. I wont talk much as usual. I just smile and pretending to be happy with Tom. Thats all. Hey, if my smile can add another digit to my savings account...why not?
First of all this ridiculas cult has been obviously dreamed up by a bloke (idiot), if they were every able to have a baby they would know why we ladies whince and cry out, it maybe a pain we ladies easily forget afterwards (usually) but by goodness it hurts when we are going through it. For goodness sake Tom and people like him its a natural thing to do!
I would like to see a man push something as big as a babies head out of their little parts?? Without making a sound!
And as for not letting the mother speak to her baby for the first week, sweetheart some people who are unable to communicate and speak naturally, would give anything to be able to speak and welcome their creation of joy into the world, but they can't. They dont do it out of choice, they just cant! But to do it on purpose - well religion or not it's down right obsurd. Make it you last one for the babies sake.
Besides insisting on ridiculous Scientology baby philosophy, TC is putting a stop to Katie's promising acting career. Just when she got going, he made sure it's all about HIM now - all the attention is on his career, his movie, his premiere, his his his. Ever notice how Nicole Kidman's career took off after Tom did the big favor of ditching her? When they were together, Nicole had to defer to him, accept or reject roles upon his advice, just as he is doing to Katie now. Except Katie is not as strong and self confident as Nicole. Katie's young and naive and can be controlled for several more years, which is why Tom targeted her. He was definitely out recruiting for Scientologoy when he hooked up with her. One of these days when Tom has left Katie, she'll look around and wish she had pursued her career and a life of her own, not just one where she walks three steps behind him on everything. As for Katie getting PG and not being married, I don't see how she can traipse around in front of his 11 year old son and 13 year old daughter in a bathing suit with her stomach out to there. What terrible role models she and Tom are for those kids. When I see the photo of her and Tom kissing (with her back to us) and poor little Conner's head showing (just the top and his eyes are showing, looking at them), I think - 'look what he's learning from them with those big eyes'. As for TC's movies, I'm done watching them. To pay for his movies, Travolta's, Kirstie Alley's and other actors in the Church, you might as well just right a check directly to the Church of Scientology. Tom's never been that great of an actor anyway. He's only really good when he plays a cocky role - kinda like himself -so it's not much of a stretch. As for Tom and Katie getting big applause on stage from Yahoo's employees for being PG - how utterly and completely tacky. How did we get from running Ingrid Bergman out of Hollywood on a rail because she got PG out of wedlock...to whooping and hollering and cheering a celebrity couple on BECAUSE they're PG out of wedlock???
this is totally weird that girlneeds some serioushelp for realz!!! That child is in danger. This religion things is so rediculous howw could anyone live thierlife that way!! And I totally haverespect for Katie holmes butnow i feel bad for her she really is totally brain washed and if she doesn't do somehting abotu it she will be in a lot of troublelaterthings liek this can get otu of hand she is in some serious danger
In actuality I don't think from what I'm hearing that Suri was kept from her Mother for a week and I believe from what I've heard that Katie is nursing her baby. The thing that upsets me the most is that Katie is leaving her Catholic faith and becoming Tom's, which is nothing but a CULT. I've heard that Suri will not be baptized and that is very sad. My heart goes out to Katie's family, which I'm sure want very badly for Suri to be baptized into the Christian faith. I would NEVER go along with any man, not letting me baptize my child into the Christian faith. I do hope that Katie changes her mind.
This reporter needs to look up the definition of 'cult' before he starts spatting off.
tom curse is an idiot that poor child and katie is totally lost her mind for putting up with it -- no man is worth all this -- he is a little man and he thinks just as small -- his 1st wife got it right why didnt kim and katie get it
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Cindy LeeApr 11th, 2006 - 20:04:25
These comments are disgusting and just plain awful, what a horrible way to treat a baby. What about food or any nourishment for the beginning? No contact with the mother and no noise at all is bad enough. This poor girl is totally brainwashed and may as well be in a polygamist relationship. This guy (Cruise) is totally in control of her and he is verging on nuts. Nicole is glad she is out I imagine, no wonder she adopted her kids. Does she get to see her kids at all?
Yuck!
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