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Jews in Hollywood give Gibson the silent treatment
By Andy Goldberg Aug 3, 2006, 2:47 GMT
File photo: US-Australian actor director Mel Gibson holds a cigarette as he speaks during a press conference in Boca del Rio, located in Veracruz, Mexico, Friday 28 October 2005. EPA/MARIO GUZMAN
Los Angeles - If you judge these things by their impact on the internet, Mel Gibson's anti-Semitic debacle is the biggest scandal to hit Hollywood since Michael Jackson's child molestation case.
Wherever your mouse has pointed since the crisis broke with Gibson's arrest last Friday, celebrity news sites and blogs have been spouting forth about the latest developments in the imbroglio.
But in Hollywood itself, where you might have expected the industry's many prominent Jews to have rushed to condemn the actor, most prominent Jewish executives have remained silent.
'The shame is that so few executives will say 'shame',' raged Los Angeles Times columnist Patrick Goldstein, who attributed the silence to Hollywood's strict moral code: money always comes first.
'DreamWorks' Jeffrey Katzenberg and Steven Spielberg, Warners' Barry Meyer, Universal's Ron Meyer, Paramount's Brad Grey - the list goes on and on - are happy to weigh in on censorship and movie piracy,' snapped Goldstein. 'But bad behaviour by a big movie star? Not a chance.'
Some Hollywood big shots did fire off angry condemnations of Gibson's anti-Semitic rant.
'It's incredibly disappointing that somebody of his stature would speak out that way, especially at this sensitive time,' said Sony Pictures movie Chairwoman Amy Pascal.
'To make all of your money from Jews in Hollywood, and then have a few drinks and say you hate Jews, is shocking,' said Mr-and-Mrs- Smith producer Arnon Milchan, an Israeli citizen. 'If you are so upset with the Jews, don't work for them.'
'Let's make ourselves proud and not support this jerk in any way, just because he's a so-called 'star,'' said veteran producer Merv Adelson in an advert in the Los Angeles Times. 'People like Mel Gibson give us all a bad name.'
But almost all the other power players who weighed in appeared to be obeying Hollywood's number one rule of sucking up to the stars - even when their behaviour is completely out of whack, especially after the fallen idols have issued contrite apologies.
'I hate what he said, and so does he,' said Jeff Berg chairman of International Creative Management which manages Gibson's career. 'We're not going to back away from him in a moment of need. Our goal is to help him, not judge him.'
Most Jewish groups meanwhile were taking a wait and see attitude following Gibson's explicit apology for his anti-Semitic rant.
'This is the apology we had sought and requested,' said Abraham Foxman of the Anti-Defamation League. 'We are glad that Mel Gibson has finally owned up to the fact that he made anti-Semitic remarks, and his apology sounds sincere.'
Rabbi Marvin Hier, founder of the Simon Wiesenthal Center, also accepted Gibson's apology but cautioned in a statement that, like substance abuse and alcoholism, anti-Semitism 'cannot be cured in one day and certainly not through a press release.'
But a prominent Los Angeles rabbi went a step further, testing Gibson's sincerity with an invitation to speak at his temple on Yom Kippur, the Jewish day of atonement, which falls on October 2 this year.
'I wish to invite you to come and speak in order that you might directly express to the Jewish community your remorse,' said Rabbi David Baron, of the Temple of the Arts, the most prominent synagogue for entertainment industry figures. 'I feel that Yom Kippur, Day of Atonement, would be an appropriate time.'
Such an act of contrition would no doubt present a severe test to Gibson, but it would likely prove far easier than some of the other remedies being proposed.
Journalist Adam Hanft proposed several ideas for community service that Gibson could undertake if convicted of drunken driving.
His most interesting proposal referred to reports that Gibson's father denied that the holocaust took place: 'Three months acting as a tour guide - along with his father - at Auschwitz, where they will take visitors through the concentration camp, paying special attention to the spa; fitness and aromatherapy center; and breakfast buffet areas.'
But even that may prove more palatable than the remedy proposed by comedian Joy Behar. Speaking Wednesday morning on chat show 'The View,' she suggested that Gibson 'needs to be welcomed into the Jewish community by a public circumcision.'
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Abraham Foxman says that Gibson has 'finally' admitted his anti-Semitic comments? He admitted it the day posted bond, not 3 weeks later. What more could you ask? He was drunk the night of the remarks. He said things he wouldn't normally say, and for all we have the right to judge, didn't mean. Haven't any of his critics ever said something they didn't really believe or mean, just out of frustration, and regretted their comments? My guess is that we've all done this kind of thing sober. Give the guy a break. He was drunk. He said stupid things. It wasn't the world's business. It was between him and the arresting officers. He has overtly and profusely apologised. Give him a break. He shouldn't have to kiss every hypersensitive, nosy, self-important Jew's behind for the rest of his life. He screwed up and is sorry. Can the rest of us move on with our lives?
is that the best picture you guys could have posted???? incompetent...
anti-Semitism is not a disease...it'a view; an opinion. this thing is getting stupid
As a (secular) Jew I often feel annoyance when the ADL and other people from 'our community' cry 'anti-semite!' every other blink of an eye. So why is everyone so silent *now*?
Please, don't let the stereotype 'money yada yada' be true!
On the other hand, Fallwell et al. are even worse. And if you let them of the hook...
Just because Mel made a sharp generalization concering the Jews doesn't make what he said anti-Semitic..isn't this the country where we have freedom of spearch God damn it.
Give him a break. He's pissed, and uncensored. The 'big three' religions are at fault for so much carnage, and tragedy- including Judaism.
Organized religion is political, stupid and petty, Just like hollywood.
Yeah...give me a break...the media is giving me a headache.
I am a highly educated person, who speaks the truth. A Physician cohort of mine, educated in medicine from the University of Tehran in the early eighties, hties hit the nail on the head when he told me 'Jews have a glorified self image of themselves.'
The belligerent, pompous scorn placed upon Mr. Gibson is revolting to me. I think Mel Gibson simply told the truth. Isreal is bringing America down. Less than 1% of Americans are Jewish. Isreal is an oiless speck in an arid Middle-Eastern landscape. Why do we refuse to talk-back whenever Isreali leaders terrorize their neighbors such as Palestine and Lebanon. I'll tell you why: Because they are second to none when it comes to proclaiming their victimhood. If Hitler hadn't slaughtered 5.5 million Jews Isreal's 'eye for an eye' proclivities would fall blindly on America's 'love thy neighbor/All men are created equal' philosophy.
I am sickened, like everyone about the Nazi atrocities - but that was over sixty years ago, and besides America is a free Country and people, under the U.S. Constitution are allowed freedom of Speech. nobody would have thought twoecie if Mr. Gibson mad anti-Arabic remarks to someone from Iraq, but if it is a Jew, Oh my God it is a capital offence. So I say loudly and clearly 'Hands off Lebanon, and leave Mr. Gibson alone.'
Like many great historians have pointed out; 'History repeats itself' - only now the Nazis aren't German, they're Jewish.
Referring to 'mellow man''s comment, i.e., 'Just because Mel made a sharp generalization concering (sic) the Jews doesn't make what he said anti-Semitic...', how do you rationalize that? Let's try it another way, 'Just because (Somebody) made a sharp generalization concerning the African-Americans doesn't make what he said racist...' Yeah, right! Or, 'Just because (he) made a sharp generalization concerning women doesn't make what he said sexist...' Give me a break!
Making 'sharp generalizations' about any one group IS being prejudiced, mellow man. What dictionary are you using?
As for Mel Gibson: time will tell. If he follows up in his commitment to work together with the Jewish community to make amends and to learn from them, then good. If not, this is all just Hollywood hype.
Gibson's been known to be an anti-semite for ages. This incident is merely the smoking gun.
I dont see why he should have to cower and apologise for any statements made. The true feelings of people sometimes come out when intoxicated, but then, we used to have the right to say what we feel and not be crucified in the media. The world has become so 'Politically Correct' that no one can say much anymore. True, it was a callous statement to make about the Jews, but then, Hollywood is run by them. I am sick of watching TV and seeing all groups explain to the camera that they are this or that!! Hispanic, Blacks, Jews, geez.... its not like the public is blind.. Just let it go.... the man has a opinion, sober or intoxicated, and should not be pressured to apologize, apologize, apologize. If he feels apologetic, then let him apologize to the MADD foundation, for his poor judgement, nothing more!
there is little one can do when someone repeatedly puts his head in a noose while standing on a step ladder. Perhaps Mel should make a movie about himself, as a man whose hubris and self-destructiveness pave the way to self defeat.
No, there is no free speech of any substance in this country anymore after 911...
I am sure if you ask Mel he would not seriously think that every war on the globe is a result of Jewish people. When intoxicated it is often the case you do not articulate correctly. If he had said, as I am sure he meant, Israel (note the nation-state not the religion of Judaism) was responsible for all the wars in the Middle-East than he would be correct. Israel is an illegal state, religiously and morally. If he were sober and inclined to I am sure his articulation on the subject would make quite a lot of sense, even to the most unaware Zionist puppet.
Mel Gibson is in the public eye and all the typical freedoms do not apply to him. He has the right to arms but he ain't gonna carry a gun around cuz it aint gonna help his career. He roared out discriminatory comments which he regrets doing because for one reason alone ... because it would hurt his career and his pay check is going to be directly affected.
I do not condone any violence of any kind. I just hate that the US always has the hands in it. The world would be a better place without the US.
if hollywood will not say shame to this person then i say shame to hollywood
there will never be an apology for gibson's behavior or deep convictions
i would think the place for him is in the mid east -southern lebanon would be appropriate-he could then spit his poison and be cheered, perhaps he would take up arms against the jews-but i doubt he has the courage of one jew in his little pinky - and to mr. gibson i would secondly suggest he then go backi to australia where he comes from - who need him
as for the jewish community in the movie industry - there are no words for your silence against this man - just how much money do you people need that it should come over and above your heritage and dignity
Man I can't wait til the next big story comes along & gets poor (well he's really not poor is he now?) Mel's face off all these headlines. Sure what he did was a human error, both drinking while intoxicated & saying stupid drunk stuff, but I still like his acting/directing abilities & I will pay to see whatever he puts out there. Hopefully he'll be acting in it:) Hang in there Mel.
This whole thing with Mel Gibson is getting to the point where it is so speculated and reported that it has precedence over the wars going on around the world. For all of you mindless morons who OBSESS over the slurs of a drunk actor, here is an idea. Mel Gibson was raised in an enviromnent that perpetuated his so-called anti-semitism. I give him credit for keeping his mouth shut for so long about it. All these Jewish figures that are speaking out against Gibson are certainly correct, and maybe even obligated. But just remember that his life/career is pretty much ruined, for the moment at least. I say things that I don't mean when I am drunk, so I say cut the guy some slack.
Mel Gibson, like any American has a right to say whatever he wants, whether bigotted or not. The thing is, he staunchly denied that he was an anti-semite to excuse his spank movie's promotion of bigotry. It is very satisfiying to see that he has openly stated his prejudices, with a little help from joe barleycorn. I think it is classy of the hollywood Jewish community to refrain from roasting him. An over reaction on their part would just validate Mel's supporters and water down the disgust felt by many people at Gibson's outburst.
Jews are now practicing political persecution in the former 'free West'. See also http://ca.geocities.com/uoftfraud/
He without sin cast the first stone. Come on, ever get mad and say something you wouldn't normally say? Now add alcohol to that. At least he had an excuse for what he said,,,he was drunk. Unlike the reporters trying to make money off someone elses mistake....please!!! Is that what God would want us to do?
Mel Gibson has been persecuted since he made 'Passion of the Christ', Some jews in hollywood have had a hard time letting the Truth be seen because it is not their Truth. Mel based a movie on Christian belief of which he is. Hollywood has become a sicklingly immoral place. Every movie or T.V. show that comes out, shows nudity to a greater degree every few years, language that is foul and growing fouler by the day, it has become a podium for pro-homosexuality and unwed mothers. So you tell me, are we supposed to just continue to support this crap that is shown on T.V. and screen by jewish writers, directors & producers because we might be called anti-semite if we don't agree, like stepford wives, that it is all good? Blah!!! Mel made a dumb mistake, if it weren't Mel, or he called the police officer a 'Stupid Methodist' or 'Those dumb Southern Baptist etc.' or simply a 'Pig', would such a stink be made? I truly doubt it. Mel has personal issues to work out, not with the public, not with the jewish community, but with himself, his FAMILY and his drinking. He and his wife's marriage has more than withstood the test of Hollywood time and then some. They also have a beautiful brood of children they are both very proud of. Lets let this be his focus and maybe Hollywood could learn something from this story of love, truth and dedication. I for one always look froward to anything Mel Gibson have produced, directed and has especially starred in. He is a wonderful (not to mention HANDSOME)talent who needs the publics support not critism.
The reason so few in Hollywood will say 'shame' is because they are in no position to judge a man's drunken comments; they themselves being racists, bigots, sexists, alcoholics, drug addicts, drug dealers, adulterers, tax evaders, homosexuals, closet homosexuals, pimps, johns, and felons of all kinds. Compare Gibson's 'crime' with the ones of Downey Jr, Grammer, and the rest.
Gibson doesn't make all his money from jews, that's an ignorant comment. He makes all his money from non-jews who go to see his great movies and buy the DVDs.
Everyone knows that Mel is a racial biggot. It was not a surprise to me. He is his father's son after all...
THANK YOU. I agree. He is a private citizen and it was a private matter between him and his officers and he does not pose as a threat to the Jewish community. We have free speech in this country. People are entitled to their own opinions, however stupid and inaccurate. As a side note, public figures bash Christians, Hindis, Muslims and Scientologists in the print media and it's supposed to be 'funny' and of course, public apologies are never given. So to all you angry Jews who are giving this Hollywood director too much importance, be reminded that you're not the only group of people on the Earth to face oppression, racism or ethnic cleansing. Read a world history book. He's just one American who was drunk and, in case you haven't noticed, the U.S. has Israel's back in much more important matters. Let's move on. ENOUGH!
Hmmmm... could there be any truth in what Mel said? Israel is wrong to kill innocent folks and America is wrong to support and arm these zionists. Have you ever heard of Benjamin Freedman (1890-1984)? He was a successful Jewish businessman who became a Christian and spoke often of the Jewish tyranny he believed was enveloping the United States: http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Freedman.html
Unbelievable!!!!! One woman killed in Seattle a number wounded, and now word on the killer or outrage by hollywood Jewery on this affront...More concern over 'Gibson' Outragious... Priorities mixed--- as always...Someone please don't let the Seattle killing go off front page... Drop Gibson...Lets concentrate on terror not nonsense!!!
As I said the other day....this is a true test of how compassionate, how forgiving, and how strong the Jewish people are. Or will they continue to call for vengeance...now that's a religious approach isn't it? Nothing like eye-for-an-eye behavior to convince others of your cause.
I think that I will judge Mel Gibson, only after I become perfect myself . Judge not, lest you be judged, for as we judge so may we, be judged . I think that it was likely the alcohol doing the talking. Perhaps Mel was bothered by Israel's destruction of the Gaza powerplant a few weeks back, a blow at the civilian population. Perhaps He knows that Israel today, sits on more land than the United Nations allotted them in 1948. They sit on land that they did not pay for, taken over after the prior occupants fled or were driven out.
Maybe He's annoyed that the Jewish people invented Yahweh but don't believe in Jesus. I think that the U.S. support of Israel's misdeeds was why the WTC was leveled. Nonetheless, if I were to be driving around at 2:30 AM on a weekend, it would be best not to speed or drive drunk . Peace.
I am not an american although currently living here. After having read all the comments supporting mel gibson, do i now know the enormity of bigots, bigotry, racist and racism that goes on in the U.S. Racist comments being hailed as Freedom of speech!! White America should stop using this and get real!
I am more shocked at the comments I have read here than at what Gibson said.
To be perfectly clear, I do have compassion for Mel Gibson. Addictions/alcoholism are demons, and can be very difficult to overcome.
However, no one said anything about the 12 steps, or the fact that no one says things while drunk that they don't say to themselves while sober.
THink about this. If you are not a racist, then while drunk you wouldn't say how terrible Black people are, etc. THat does not make any sense.
'From the open drunken tongue spews the hidden loathsome beliefs of a man when sober'.
I do not defend everything Israel does, or what certain Jews do or do not do.
What anything someone does has far more to do with that person as he/she is as an individual, rather then that person's particular race, religion, or ethnic heritage.
As for the 12 steps, one of its tenets is that the alcoholic must take responsiblity for him or herself. And we definitely should all do the same.
In other words: Neither any of us, nor Mel Gibson, can blame his anti-Jewish comments on his drinking, his being arrested, etc.,
If someone drunk told you repeatedly that you are a vile, wretched piece of muck, who has always lied, cheated, stolen, and should be tortured 24/7 for what you have done, how would you feel? You most likely would never go near him again, and for good reason, even though you may forgive him.
In addition, the 12 steps mandates that the alcoholic make a 'fearless moral inventory' about himself. THis of course applies to Gibson, as well as to anyone else.
'Forgiveness' is not a problem for me. However, it only serves as a band aid for a very deep wound. If I could meet with him, I would simply ask him, in a non-accusatory fashion, why he holds negative beliefs about Jews. Was he hurt by one Jewish person? Is it truly based completely on his father's beliefs?
By the way, I am White, and have done this when I hear someone making a racist remark.
People here have said he's 'just one person'. Yet, he is raising a large family. Does anyone here really advocate that he pass his beliefs on to his many children?
We must all ask ourselves what kind of world we want to have. Do we want one where people oppress others based on racial and other ugly stereotypes, or one where racisms of all kinds are eradicated?
Freedom of Speech is not the issue. Sure, he has the right to say whatever he wants. But any of us must realize that we may face consequences when we insult people, call people names, etc. If an employee worked for you, got drunk as a skunk at your office Xmas party, and called you names (and I mean not-nice names) and other horrific insults would you 'ignore' it, as many of you recommend that everyone does with Gibson's remarks, or fire the person???
The rest of us also have freedom of speech - and that includes telling Gibson to wake up and take a good look at his beliefs.
There is an excellent documentary entitled 'The Longest Hatred'. It is about anti-Semitism. Many here, unfortunately, have spewed more anti-Semitism.
Just look at what you've said. The Jewish people have a right to be sensitive to remarks such as Gibson's, just as Blacks have a right to be sensitive to racist remarks.
I wish you all peace in your hearts.
I think Mel Gibson should change his name to Mel Godson because God worked his way in some mysterious way. God spoke to the Jews/Israelis through Mel Gibson. I am not kidding you. Look at the clever setup that no Hollywood studio could copy.
1. Mel Gibson was no John Doe. He's the famous creator of the Passion of Christ. His voice would be powerful.
2. The chosen person to receive Mel Godson's words was an armed Jew dressed in police uniform. yes, the arresting cop was a Jew. An armed Jew in uniform represented the Israeli Army. He was cruising around the safe and beautiful Malibu to meet Godson. He dutily copied every word that Godson told him, just to be misinterpreted by the his people.
So what was God telling the Jews/Israelis? It was not the same old 10 commandments. There were 11 words, 'The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world.'
Now, if you're a Jew, please hold your shock, denial, and anger. Don't scream 'Rubbish! Bigot! What the hack! All the f wars????'
Just look at one war, the current one in which there're the destruction of Lebanon and the deaths of many civilians.
God wanted to tell the Jews/Israelis to ponder upon their war. They are the aggressors. Alas, instead of pondering, the Jews came out in full force crucifixing Godson in the media. It's deja vu with the Romans.
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Oh well, God works his way in some mysterious way. If one can't see it then he's just unfortunate.
By the way, God spoke to bUSh through Katrina and Rita hurricanes aka Acts of God, but bUSh could not hear the voice. I like God. He's open-minded. He didn't care if Dan Brown married his son to Lady Magdalene in Da Vinci Code. I also like codes, they tell me something.
KATRINA --> kATRIna --> .ATRI.. --> RITA
KATRINA --> katRINA --> ...RINA --> IRAN
KATRINA --> KAtRIna --> KA.RI.. --> IRAK
KATRINA --> KATrinA --> KAT...A --> ATAK
ATAK IRAK IRAN KATRINA RITA ATAK
The 2nd storm of this season was Beryl. Check this out.
KATRINABERYL --> katriNABEryL --> .....NABE..L --> LEBAN
ATAK IRAK IRAN LEBAN KATRINA RITA BERYL ATAK
The 3rd storm Chris is arriving
CHRISKATRINABERYL --> chrISkatRinAbEryL --> ...IS...R..A.E..L
I must disagree with Mel Gibson when he accuses us jews of starting all the wars in this rather screwed up world. Not all, just most of them!
I would give more credence to Gibson's apology{s] if they hadn't been given in a press release ... but then who cares ... in the long run he's only an actor who happens to be an alcoholic bigot and he comes by it naturally - his father's a bigot who fled to Austrailia years ago because historically they have a reputation for 'disliking' Blacks and Jews, a cult leader who makes Opus Dei look liberal [kind of makes 'The Da Vinci Code' all the more plausible] ... I for one had made a decision a while back not to see anything he did in any media ever again
My dear fellow Americans! Mel Gibson's drunken driving is serious enough.
But the embedded Murdoch[a typical Jew too] press presents us this as the
most so far publicity loaden and paradigmatic case for _genocide bidding_ .
Paraphrase:'CBS News journalist Kimberly Dozier has been released from a rehabilitation hospital, where she had been recovering from critical injuries suffered during a May 29 car bomb attack in Iraq. 'I'm up on crutches and can even manage with a cane,' Dozier said in a statement. Dozier, 40, suffered wounds to her head, legs and lower body while e_m_b_e_d_d_e_d with the 4th Infantry Division in Baghdad. The blast killed her camera crew'(CBS, 04.08.2006). Until the 60ies
the truth about what happened around the xy-letter word 'Ausschwitz' at the 'Göring Werke'[railway station] was, that there a few Jews, in the hope to save at least their skin, killed and burned many Jews. That Ausschwitz could have been something else is a fabrication of the Jewish embedded journalism. Concerning
the economical war 1914-1918 and 1939-1945 and the variety of Gulf wars today:
Nothing could be farer from the truth than this Jewish embedded counter-factual
reporting about war times.
to Jon f,
Au contraire, you are an ignoramus!!!
Clearly, this is all concocted by a right-wing Christian mechanism that has been developed behind the scenes for the last 100 years. It is engineered to remove religious freedom from this country and demonize anyone who is not Christian. These people will stop at nothing to eradicate the last nonbeliever from the US shores and promote their dear Jesus as the panacea. Gibson is just the latest to rear his ugly head in a newly-public Christian brutality drive that really had its coming out party with Rove, Bush et. al.
If anyone thinks he/she has never said (intentionally or unintellionally) something that has not hurt another person(s) is lying. We all have said stupid/foolish/mean things with our tongue
Peoples 'real' personalities can come out when they are drunk. Alcohol can also make someone do and say things they wouldn't. It impairs judgement, etc... SO I don't know that I by that being drunk brought out his true feelings. When I got drunk in college, I did things I was ashamed of...things I would not do sober, things that were not in my normal pesonality. because I was impaired.
sorry for my spelling errors.
anyway, found this interesting....
http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Movies/08/04/mel.gibson.ap/
our tongue is small, but if not controlled can cause a great fire. and when drunk, we are controlled by the alcohol. diminishes capacity to make rational decisions and judgements. our thinking is impaired. it alters the mind. why so dangerous to drive drunk.
They are just counting their pennies 'cachinge' If I was Mel I would just say kiss......catholic ...
They all gonna come bacjk running
jewish is believe god and love world but not point mel... he can go training
army go war.. jewish family member was relax and but i did watch mel play drama is not good job.. he back iran or country... have a nice day....
the interesting thing about the photo made for him to look like Saddam Hussein....Hussein slaughtered/tortured, etc...hundred of thousands of people if not more. Can you honestly say there is a similarity? NO!!!!
elise...elise....., surely you cannot believe this photo is doctored to make your dear Mel look like Saddam?? If you can believe that, then I forgive you your naivete in your support of a bigot and racist. Saddam slaughtered hundreds of thousands of his own people. That's horrible and gruesome. But remember that six million Jews were killed and no one should expect them to be defendless ever again!! They will never and should never be lead to be slaughtered again.
## I am not a Jew..
I agree with you. The Jews were led to slaughter and should not have been nor should it happen again. but if you look at the picture above these posts you will see a picture of Mel with a beard much like that of Saddam (and Mel does not wear a beard like that). I was not condoning what Mel said. It was not right. It was beyond hurtful. His words hurt more than I could ever imagine (I also am not Jewish). But I am human. I have been hurt by very unkind words because of who I am, and I have also hurt others. and I know in all my life I have said stupid, foolish, even mean things...sometimes intentionally. sometimes unitentionally. It is called sin and we are all effected. not one of us is perfect, especially when it comes to the use of our tongues. If we are then we are lying.
No one should be led to slaughter again..not Jews, Iraqis, Ruwandans, etc...wherever there has been 'slaughter', there have been justifications. 'they're this, They're that'.
I think of all the innocent babies that are 'led to slaughter' everyday. for the most part, no outrage. we give it a name to justify it...it's choice.
I've heard alot about alcohol bringing out the true person. I am ashamed to say I used to drink heavily in college and the opposite was true when I was drunk. I did things I would not have done, things I am not proud of, etc... things that if my judgement was not impaired I would not have engaged in. Alcohol messes up your mind, judgement, etc..
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14140803/
What he did/said was stupid and hurtful. but does because he was drunk when he said those things really mean he meant it? I do not think it is that simple. His apology seemed heartfelt. It was not 'sorry IF you were offended'. He new his words were offensive. give him the benefit of the doubt and see where he goes from here. whether we are drunk or even sober sad to say, our tongues get us in trouble. we all say things with our tongues in the heat of the moment to others, even those closest to us, that hurt. we all need to say 'we are sorry' at times. does that mean we do not love those people. no! no it means welcome to the human race. None of us are perfect.
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Carol ContardiAug 3rd, 2006 - 03:20:36
Let he who has not sinned throw the first stone.
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