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Schwarzenegger targets welfare, health care in new round of cuts

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May 27, 2009, 16:44 GMT


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Well wellMay 27th, 2009 - 19:52:55

There goes the great democrat healthcare system out the window.

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Nickie GMay 27th, 2009 - 23:46:43

Let the fear tactics begin.

Here's the truth. The CalWORKs program was developed to duplicate the poor work of Employment & Training counseling already done by the State's Eligibility Workers. It is a joke and another case of California flushing tax dollars down a toilet on behalf of an unneeded and redundant program.

Healthy Families is another such program that actually recruits people to sign on for government-funded health care. Basically it's the same care that is already being provided by your tax dollars paid into MediCal. This boondoggle is yet another example of unions and Democrat politicians creating a program that does little other than create Democrat voters.

And, oh gosh, illegal immigrants will lose their medical care. Can anyone spell P-R-O-P-O-S-I-T-I-O-N-1-8-7?

Let the budgeting begin. It's about time.

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DaveMay 28th, 2009 - 00:07:42

Great points Nickie. And how about education for illegal aliens. Estimates are there are at least 400,000 ilegal aliens being educated in California schools. Not citizen children of illegals whom I think should not be paid for either but actual illegal children. The state spent around $8500 per pupil in 07/08 and slightly more now. So lets round it of to $9000. Do the math I get $3 Billion six hundred million annually. What if there's more. Add to that the children of illegals who were born here who shouldn't have been and the numbers are staggering. The welfare, heathcare, food stamps. You have got a good chunck of this budget shortfall placed right on the shoulders of illegal aliens and those are the facts so yes we can blame them and no I'm not a racist, I'm hispanic myself. Until they start cutting off these people and sending them packing these hypocritic socialist clowns and crooks in Sacramento are not serious yet about balancing this budget.

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SP4: boy, I heard thatMay 28th, 2009 - 02:29:06

..the libnazi wankfest has been brought to a stop, and they did it to themselves. In an attempt to hand out dessert to the masses, they ignored the meat and potatos.

Pity we have a president who still uses this business model.

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tonny from belgiumMay 28th, 2009 - 05:13:50

Very revealing résumé of GOP recipes proposed by the previous posters:if there is a budget problem,cur back on health care and education.It's nice to have such frankness from these guys .Dae I suggest a different solution?Tax the corporate tycoons and keep the health care and education budgets ,as simple as that ,and much more ethical.

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tonny from belgiumMay 28th, 2009 - 05:18:33

By the way Dave,grow a brain,it is already a well established fact that the so called 'illegal aliens' contribute much more to the economy than they receive .If ever they were to disappear from the picture,the california economy could simply collapse.There are too few people prepared to do the hard work those people perform for such little money,one of them being you.
You entire argument is not built on facts,only disdain.

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SP4 being ignorant on many threads todayMay 28th, 2009 - 06:09:36

Pathetic paid troll. Probably thinks that his mental health care is in jeopardy. Here, he celebrates fewer dollars for the needy. Too bad he does not realize that he's one of them.

The problem dates back to Jarvis-Gann, which crippled California's finances for years to come.

Bush did the same with tax cuts for the highest earners.

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If ArrrrneeeeMay 28th, 2009 - 06:21:15

really wanted to make cuts and save Billions of dollars, he'd let the rich b^at^rds houses burn to the ground in the next firestorm. Do you guys have any clue at all how much is spent, to save insurance companies from having to pay out? Do your own research and Google it, Dave, if you have the brains. Cut off the welfare to the bloodsucking 'insurance' corporations. Problem solved people, problem solved.

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if only these neocon cretins...May 28th, 2009 - 07:23:51

could tell us the results of cutting back on teacher wages,fire-fighters(especially in California) ,health care ,law enforcement,other than the rich getting richer and the rest of society falling back in complete chaos .I'm sure those cretins must have something more to propose than ,sealed off secured neighbourhoods for the happy few ,I'll be happy to hear it.

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SP4: Gosh Tonny, I'd be the first to AgreeMay 28th, 2009 - 16:29:17

....except for the glaring fact that the California libnazi elite is currently preaching tax CUTS for their pet movie industry, as the other side of their mouths preaches higher services for californians, all while they stiff the writers union for sh-t wages.

Libnazis...in fulll view....whew!

Honestly, I had to see it to believe it (not really, eh?) as the WSJ editorial waxed on about one hollywierd director Rob Reiner) after another advocated PERSONAL tax cuts!...for themselves to make an incentive for movies to stay made in California! Their reasons..stop the presses...was that the sate would make MORE revenue!

Golly Tonny, I could not agree more! Perhpas they know what Bush neocons already know: Taxes do not pay for services, tax REVENUES do!

Once Again Tonny, the pig now dresses as the farmer!

oik, oik, oik!

On this, I would agree, except as a conservative free market thinker, I'd do it for EVERYONE, which would bring even more success, by the libnazi standard Tonny, on top of the obvious fairness versus the class separated, elitist libnazi position they pimp!

oik, oik, oik again!

Now run along Tonny, and for god sakes, call these libnazis as you seem to be the only person who actually knows what he wants...you naughty neocon...maybe they can hire Cheney to help them, as we can all plainly see they are all on the same page now.

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SP4 saysMay 28th, 2009 - 17:58:21

'except as a conservative free market thinker'
On his best day, sp couldn't think his way out of a cloud of doobie smoke, let alone a wet paper bag. GOPers aren't thinkers, they are knee-jerk reactionaries. Gee, they do a lot of things on their knees, don't they?

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Hey Idiots stick...May 28th, 2009 - 17:59:58

'....except for the glaring fact that the California libnazi elite is currently preaching tax CUTS for their pet movie industry, as the other side of their mouths preaches higher services for californians, all while they stiff the writers union for sh-t wages.'

Hey you stupid wanker, the writers union made out well in their last negotiation---why don't you check the facts before you spout that big mouth of yours. Another thing you would find out if you did your homework (laugh) the movie business brings in much more that any of the tax cuts take out. God you are not only wrong but ignorant to boot!

'Honestly, I had to see it to believe it (not really, eh?) as the WSJ editorial waxed on about one hollywierd director Rob Reiner) after another advocated PERSONAL tax cuts!...for themselves to make an incentive for movies to stay made in California! Their reasons..stop the presses...was that the sate would make MORE revenue!'

Honestly---that is a joke you have not made an honest statement in the two years you have been lying on this board. If you knew anything besides the stupid lies you spout daily you would know that in reality (somewhere you do not dwell) in fact tax cuts for the movie business actually returns $2 for every $1 tax break. God you are stupid.

'Once Again Tonny, the pig now dresses as the farmer!'

God you are stupid and wrong. You keep spouting this nonsense which shows just how ignorant you really are.

'On this, I would agree, except as a conservative free market thinker, I'd do it for EVERYONE, which would bring even more success, by the libnazi standard Tonny, on top of the obvious fairness versus the class separated, elitist libnazi position they pimp!'

You are just jealous as you are part of the ignorant right wing? Stupid ideas, stupid statements, lies, lies, lies and yet you have lost everything in the last couple of years. Now you have to live with your 20% base---good luck with that Idiots Stick.

'Now run along Tonny, and for god sakes, call these libnazis as you seem to be the only person who actually knows what he wants...you naughty neocon...maybe they can hire Cheney to help them, as we can all plainly see they are all on the same page now.'

What's up with this stupid statement 'now run along' god you are stupid. And anyone like you that has hero's like Cheney (liar that is about to get drop kicked back to Wyoming), Michael Steele (poor lost soul that supports a party that could care less about him and 'his kind') and Rush (the king of entertainers who fools idiots like you to send him $39 a month for the outrageous crap he spits out and is a drug addict to boot) are all part of the 20%, go for it and even if you double your base to 40% you will still all be losers.

By the way stupid you had over 10 spelling and grammar errors in your post. More people would listen to you and not make fund of you if you would only learn to spell. Ignorance is not attractive.

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aMay 28th, 2009 - 18:53:35

What America needs now is the American Republic with J Ben hur! Not Obama and the Clintons!

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tonny from belgiumMay 28th, 2009 - 19:26:44

The pig now dresses as a farmer...that seems to be your new mantra SP4,you posted that at least 6 times .You seem to have grown some style ,unfortunately you still lack knowledge of the real world that .Didn't you just got caught telling blatant lies today?I 'm pointing to the fact that you pretended Obama being responsible for the North Korean 's nuclear test .
So tell us who how they enriched the uranium and build that stuff in 100 days,the average time span needed is a few years.Now tell us again if Obama is responsible ,you poor delusional fool. Are you never ashamed of getting caught making a fool of yourself .

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SP4: oink oinkMay 28th, 2009 - 20:53:18

The pig now dresses as a farmer...that seems to be your new mantra SP4,

SP4 - if the shoe fits...

you posted that at least 6 times .

SP4 - see above

You seem to have grown some style ,unfortunately you still lack knowledge of the real world t

SP4 - could be Tonny, bacause I live in a state with a balanced budget all done by citizen representatives, who's health care is the cutting edge model for the other 49 states, leads America in environmental progress, pioneered land use, and has arguably the cleanest rivers in the 48 states.

Didn't you just got caught telling blatant lies today?

SP4; No, I'm SP4 not Obama

I 'm pointing to the fact that you pretended Obama being responsible for the North Korean 's nuclear test .

SP4: No, Tonny, he's responsible for enabling Kim, not Kim's actions

So tell us who how they enriched the uranium and build that stuff in 100 days,the average time span needed is a few years.


SP4: They had the Clinton treaty to accomplish that, Tonny. heck, no one can blame Barak for that, although his sec state should check into it, eh?

Now tell us again if Obama is responsible ,you poor delusional fool. Are you never ashamed of getting caught making a fool of yourself .

SP4: See the above, then,please tell us Tonny, when you are going to start measuring this neophyte the same way you measured GW Bush? By al means take your time, and be sure to get back to us.

Yes, Tonny, what we have here is a gold plated example of sending the wrong message. We have seen the result of what could be construed as an honest attempt by an American president to pursue what is right and just, what is in the region's interest, and he relied on his opponent to have the same motivations.

Niave.

simple minded

poorly communicated

So now we see the result, the moonwalk Mike Jackson envies, the move to the speech circuit.



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jackieMay 28th, 2009 - 21:24:12

There are many alternatives to health care such as in-home senior care and Alzheimer care in a lot of agencies. there are also non-profit grants and funding also. here are some good resources if you want to check it out:


- www.nahc.org/
- www.homecareassistance.com/
- www.aahomecare.org/
- www.seniorcareinformation.org


hope these sites help out.

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To: JackieMay 29th, 2009 - 00:59:59

A voice of sanity, reason, clear-headedness, thoughtfulness and realistic options, on M&C? You are a treasure!

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abeMay 29th, 2009 - 09:55:21

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_the_United_States

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The Tonny and SP showMay 29th, 2009 - 17:20:14

The Euro-twit and the pig sh*t having an 'intellectual' conversation. Grunts and groans. More like a comedy act. But which one is the straight man? Maybe it's not comedy, but a farce. It couldn't be a tragedy, for neither one is the hero, as both have fatal flaws.

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SP4: Professor Monkey boy #12's spellingMay 29th, 2009 - 19:17:41

..and grammer...

'By the way stupid you had over 10 spelling and grammar errors in your post. More people would listen to you and not make fund of you if you would only learn to spell. Ignorance is not attractive.'

SP4 - Make 'fund'???????????????????

10 errors....oh god!....that's rich! Not attractive?.....neither is the empty shirt of your empty posts! Now run along..and for god sakes...at LEAST learn to use spell check!...or was that why....?

hahahahahaha!

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