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May 9, 2009, 14:36 GMT
Obama administration considering terror tribunals with new rules
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'under heavy criticism for placing more emphasis on protecting classified sources than on the rights of the convicted.'
Convicted before being found guilty. How very Bushy. Under REAL Law it would read: 'Rights of the Accused.'
Good point. Surely, if a case won't stand in a regular court it should not be pursued. Under the US system, based on English common law, the accused is innocent until proven guilty. I don't like the idea of playing into the hands of fanatics whose supreme aim in life is to kill as many of us infidels as possible, and I accept the need to protect intelligence sources, but indefinite detainment without trial, or covert trial without the defence being able to test the evidence properly in open court are not options worthy of a free society.
It is a very slippery slope when some are denied due process. If it starts with them, when will they come for me, or you? Just as the veneer of civilization is very thin, totalitarianism is not very far away, for any democracy. I wonder what ever happened to 'with liberty and justice, for all.'
is needed, on the part of the citizenry, to make sure that governments do not get out of hand. This means questioning EVERYTHING the government tells you. Governments don't lie, do they. Constant vigilance is the price one pays, to live in a democracy. To be otherwise gives miscreants like Bush/Cheney the perfect opportunity to do their worst. Then you do not have democracy in any way, shape, or form. When it comes to governments, cynicism is the best option.
Barack Obama as next President of The United States of America
The die is cast and for reasons that only a privileged few know, you Sir, will be the next President of the United States of America. Your next 4 years will be a turning point in US history and planet earth. CHANGE, your advisors and high stake investors offer the nation will undoubtedly be the same rhetoric and empty promises that make up a political campaign, that campaigns for appointment for any public office in America.
The White House will be the Black House to some, the Aryan Brothers of America will not be so happy, but yet will blame you and your staff if you fail, which will reinforce their belief that the Aryan Nation is the true leader for America. The religious zealots will be busy bees making nests to survive the onslaught of lies, corruption and deceit. Business enterprises and other competing nations will capitalize off of your inexperience in the art of corruption and murder. The organized crime organizations from different nations including our own will benefit from the lack of control over national crime.
Military governments including our own will test your tolerance to pain and deception and trick you into needless and profitable domestic and international conflict. You will no doubt attempt to colorize your staff to soften the race conflict once in office.
As President you will be President. Nations will respect you only for your title of office. Americans will soon see after your appointment as President that your intentions were manipulated by those that make the rules. You will fill the spot in history as planned, and nothing more.
You will never while in office be able to pull the troops from conflict in any land we are engaged in. As a matter of fact we as a nation will be engaged in a new conflict of war, which will galvanize Americans to seek a different form of government and a different and honest Congress.
You will attempt to shore up Americas problems with false promise and lies, because you cannot directly affect the CHANGE you promised.
Your frustration will be your downfall while in office, and your co-dependence on those that you trust will also add to your demise.
Our Armed Forces in rank will respect you as good soldiers they are, but those under them will not, and for good reasons, that only a good soldier knows.
America will not be America until its government respects the People, and tells the truth. America is a Republic, not a Democracy or Fascist Government or is it?
Until you can walk thru the streets and neighborhoods of America unaided by Secret Service or any other law enforcement agency you will not be respected by the many, only by the fearful and selfish few. Americans can protect their leaders if they are honest and respectful of the people they were elected to serve. Our Government has forsaken us for many hundreds of years, and now we will wait until your 4 years are finished for us to come to fruition.
CHANGE FOR AMERICA FOR AMERICANS!
The American Republic
A Sovereign Republic
strikes again. More Spam. These words are just above the post box: 'Spammers will have IP's blocked.' I wonder when the editors @ M&C are going to drop their Doobies and actually do something about it.
MUST prosecute former Bush administration officials such as Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfewitz, as well as military officials for crimes committed against humanity in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Preferred punishment: hanging from the nearest bridge with bungy cords tied around their necks.
De-jew the United States of America.
Jews are the DEVIL.
GET RID OF THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For America's sake purge them from the USA.
the US and the rest of the world would be better off without racist a-holes like you.
...is that there was no mention of whether the original tribuanls had any legal nexus to begin with. What, exactly were the objections, case by case? Now we are expected to believe there was something wrong and this is the reason for all of this. It's like the vatican is in charge..or something...
SP4 purchased a thesaurus. 'Nexus', my god SP4 are you actually reading something intelligent instead of your usual day long consumption of the conservative blogs?
...and all you do is chew the corners...
'...they can move them to Deer Lodge!'
Nexus? Wow! Is SP mutating into an intellectual or has his missus nagged him into fixing that wonky table and freed up the only copy of Chambers in the house? Please, SP, please, please find another use for the book. There must be a door needs propping open or something!
..but I'm still convinced I've never actually met an Intellectual...
Barack Obama is just so amazing. I just can't believe he really exists. He is a gift from God. He's so blacktastic. I love seeing his picture on EVERYTHING! I love going to the store and I see his face on three out of four magazine covers. LOVE IT!!
Why Billy boy, is this withering sarcasm or just verbal fellatio? Perhaps you should retire to Californicate together.
That is for sure if you are looking into a mirror.
Nexus: causal relationship
Therefore, your 'tribuanls had any legal nexus,' is like yoou, nonesensical. By the way, oh great ignoramus, the other big word in your sentence is spelled trubunals. Do you have anything INTELLIGENT to say, you scrofulous windbag?
'Yoou,' should have read 'you.' Blame it on an American made, piece of crap, keyboard.
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