here's a planDec 18th, 2008 - 21:32:00

Kick the guests out, turn off the lights and lock the door. There, I just saved the Pentagon 6 months and 20 million dollars. I suppose the arseholes need a plan in order to take a shit. By the numbers, people, by the numbers. One, two, three, shit.

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Good God!Dec 19th, 2008 - 08:33:24

at last
THE VOICE OF SANITY!
This should have happened years ago.

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Don't shoot yourself in the footDec 19th, 2008 - 08:36:34

'The Bush administration maintains that it does not transfer detainees to other countries without first getting assurances they will not be tortured or abused'
LOL

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lanceDec 19th, 2008 - 12:48:52

The sad thing about Guantanamo is that it is needed in this world, just not the way it is currently implemented.

It is currently a torture chamber to kidnap people and never release them and hold them from the justice system. It is, perhaps, one of the worst infractions of justice in recent history.

It could have been a model of justice and a shining beacon for hope and peace.

But, instead the United States turned it into a filthy place that demonstrates the true mind of its leaders. People with unpleasant minds that use hypocrisy as a tool for power where justice is is only a word to hide injustice.

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SP4: except for the glaring fact thatDec 19th, 2008 - 16:20:45

..it has withstood every legal challenge the fairest court system in the world (that would be the USA) has put to it.

For all of their bombast, the naysayers have absolutely no victories to hold up in challenging Gitmo, and scant few in the detainees themselves.

Like Roosevelt, Bush took advantage of the system and it has been effective in keeping these combatants at bay....Guantanamo bay.

Now, Lance, run along and see how much you can impress us with your dissertation on how Bush broke the Bank of England.

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lanceDec 19th, 2008 - 18:14:58

'it has withstood every legal challenge the fairest court system in the world (that would be the USA) has put to it.'

Perfect example showing how the typical U.S. citizen lives in a dream world.

With fantasies like that it is no wonder that the U.S. is screwed up.

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SP4: fantasiesDec 19th, 2008 - 19:14:01

..you mean like your comment about Bush breaking the Bank of England?

That, Lance, is a fantasy.

Court record is fact, Lance. Time to grow up. Heck, worldwide, we're probably the most conservative on how we've haqndled this, compared to the other major powers i.e. Russia, China, India, etc.

NONE of the court challenges have succeeded.

CONGRESS, a liberal-led one, was unwilling to end it, when they could have.

Now, run along and finish that dissertation we're all waiting for.

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lanceDec 19th, 2008 - 19:27:55

'Court record is fact, Lance.'

Then I suggest you read the records.

I'm hardly going to argue with you SP4, you are a Bush groupie and always will be. Go blow off.

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SP4: No, LanceDec 19th, 2008 - 20:57:09

..I suggested YOU read them. If you did, you'd now be running to that Bush-broke-the-Bank-of-England doctoral you've been procrastinating on.

Like most libnazis, you're argument fails on the facts. NO court action was able to close GITMO. No congressional act was ever tried, because it would certainly fail. In addition, the dems WANTED it and wanted to be able to assign blame to Bush, just as when they greenlighted the Iraq war, rendition, interrogation, etc.

No, Lance, run back to your biases, they are all you have.

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lanceDec 19th, 2008 - 21:09:22

Have a nice day SP4.

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