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'Obama's campaign has been careful about directly criticizing McCain's choice of Palin in the past, focussing (sic) instead on the top of the ticket and leaving the attacks on his running mate to surrogates.'
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This is not entirely correct.
The Obama campaign has merely delegated attacks upon Palin to Palin herself.
In August this year, a few weeks before being nominated for vice president, Sarah Palin said in an interview with Philip Gourevitch that Alaska is 'set up, unlike other states in the union, where it's collectively Alaskans own the resources. So we share in the wealth when the development of these resources occurs.'
she couldn't speak without Rove's hand up her butt, moving her lips, she will be reading a speech prepared for her by GOP Central. GOP-C is in such disarray that they couln't find their arse with both hands and a map.
Headline: Palin Promulgates Poorly Prepared Putrid Party Platform.
Well, it's about time!! Obama needs to attack McCain's shady associations as well, starting with the mercenary and convicted felon G. Gordon Liddy.
I have been having REAL, honest-to-God NIGHTMARES about Palin almost every night lately. I have not been sleeping well at all. I have not been this terrified about our country's future since 9-11. I cannot BELIEVE that McCain was so irresponsible when he chose her. She is an absolute joke.
She simply CANNOT be elected or our country will be in grave danger!
During the last 8 years, the wealth HAS been redistributed, as is well documented by many reports. That makes the Republican Party the 'Redistributors.' What Obama wants to do is undo their redistribution...and the Republicans simply can't stand that. McCain/Palin have deployed the dirtiest politics that I've seen in some time. Every statement they make is a gross distortion. I am so sorry for the people who can't see through their lies.
obama isn't qualified to be president. we don't want nor need your Marxist government obama. take a walk with terdy kennedy. Vote no no ried peloski obama in Nov
One of the above posters is correct. the Republicans have spent the majority of the last 8 years putting Government money in the pockets of Private big business and now as one of their last big ticket items has been to take public money to pay private debt. Talk about spreading the wealth
'obama isn't qualified to be president. we don't want nor need your Marxist government obama. take a walk with terdy kennedy. Vote no no ried peloski obama in Nov'
Jake, you just might be the most ignorant individual I have ever encountered. Obama a Marxist?!? Here's a hint: go out, purchase a dictionary and don't use words until you have a FULL understanding of their meaning. Another one: don't be blindsided by pointless social issues and closeted racism. BOTH McCain and Palin have supported what could be termed as 'socialist' approaches to economic issues, if you read you would know that. Taxation IS a redistribution of the wealth. Get a new desperate argument, you are giving stupid a bad name.
I am amazed at the bubble GOP supporters have climbed into. Palin has certainly generated excitement and should get credit for bringing out voters that might have otherwise stayed at home, (both for and against), but she is not a viable candidate. Republicans....you had choices for candidates. You had better get your act together before our country ends up with a 1 party system. Doubt me? Comment back on Nov 5. By the way, I am not a Democrat
After increasing the national debt by 1/3 over the last 8 years all the Republicans are running against big govt. & spending? They were in charge 6 of last 8 years in Congress, and had the Presidency. They've taken us from surplus to debt, from middle class to greatest discrepency in wealth since robber barons, from free market to bailouts & socialized debt of private risk, two wars(one w/o any merit), and from below 1 dollar gas to 4 dollar gas, and on, and on....So why in the world would a sane voter give those two imbeciles on their ticket a vote? Oh, I see, to destroy what's left of America! No wonder why AlQueda supports McCain!!!
Madam Palin a pentecostal evangelical is nothing but a hypocrite Sunday Christan, that is not only not qualified in every sense of the word, but has proven over and over again, that she lacks everything basic about complexities of the task required to be VIP and with McCain with his four bouts of cancer and one foot in the grave to take over the responsibilities of the Office of the President. Except for brining out her kind of over zealot religious nut cases, she has advanced nothing other then polarize this nation further apart. The women like other conservative republican from Alaska is nothing but unethical and corrupt to the hilt. She guilty of abuse of power and ethics violations as a 18 month Governor of Alaska, where she has allowed her high school educated husband to be one man vigilante, interfering with the Government's business.
The republican'ts have no policies except fear-mongering. Just about everyone who wants to vote for McCain/Palin are doing it out of fear.
Their campaign is based almost exclusively upon the fear factor.
'Don't you know what will happen if.....'
Quite honestly, no we don't know what will happen, and neither do they.
Are we to believe the same neocon politicians who brought us their garbage cans full of lies about why we just had to invade Iraq; instead of sticking to the 9/11 mission of taking out osama bin laden and the taliban/al qaeda terrorists who have now taken over large portions of Afghanistan and Pakistan?
Then there is the labelling of anyone who doesn't believe just like them-
'Socialist, communist, marxist, liberal, most liberal, ultra liberal, traitor, terrorist, muslim, not a real American, not living in real America'....etc. etc. etc.
The level of paranoia preaching to their base, and other fearful persons is astounding. There is nothing reformist, or maverick about all this
negative campaigning. It is status quo for the republican't politics.
Palin really is just Bush / Cheney in a dress. Look at this ignorant woman's stance on the issues, Palin is more in line with the mindset of the failure Bush administration than even McCain is. This is the future of the Republican party? Americans need to realize once and for all, you can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig. The Republican way has failed the United States for decades, it's over and it needs to stay over permanently. Our future, economy, health and security are not some fun game. Do not vote for this very foolish, careless, ignorant woman unless you really hate America. A vote for Palin is a vote for going backwards to the Bush years once again, don't do it, don't let this failed, diseased thinking back into our White House.
If Obama is elected, I would not bet a dime on his chances of surviving
6 months.
It is NOT my wish, I bear him no harm, just a good gut feel - the true betting man`s instinct. He will be a target as soon as he gets the election result. There is just too much violent feeling against him and America is a dangerous place to be if you upset the wrong people.
You are a betting man, Dead man? Well, I bet you lose a lot of money. The lunatic fringe that would attempt such an abhorrent and disgusting act as an assassination on Mr. Obama are small in numbers, and low on intelligence. People, like yourself are tipping your hands with your BS GOP fear tactics. Go back to the 60's and get under your sheet and take your 'good-gut feeling' with you. My America has no room for your sort.
Is this part of the anti-Obama, anti-Deomocrat campaign?
Who are you going to vote for? Anyone of us could be a dead man walking.
'Jake, you just might be the most ignorant individual I have ever encountered.'
What that means is brace yourself: another pompous IDIOT is about to spew.
'Obama a Marxist?!? Here's a hint: go out, purchase a dictionary and don't use words until you have a FULL understanding of their meaning.'
Jake doesn't need to buy anything, he is exactly right.
Main Entry:
Marx·ism Listen to the pronunciation of Marxism
Pronunciation:
\ˈmärk-ˌsi-zəm\
Function:
noun
Date:
1887
: the political, economic, and social principles and policies advocated by Marx ; especially : a theory and practice of socialism including the labor theory of value, dialectical materialism, the class struggle, and dictatorship of the proletariat until the establishment of a classless society
'Another one: don't be blindsided by pointless social issues and closeted racism.'
So anyone who doesn't vote for this incompetent child with 143 days in the senate is a 'racist'... You fools make me sick. You are lead around by your nose by your programming.
'BOTH McCain and Palin have supported what could be termed as 'socialist' approaches to economic issues,'
They don't want to nationalize entire industries like your obamamessiah does. they do not want to create a nanny state. You may need someone to take care of you, I don't.
'Taxation IS a redistribution of the wealth.'
Not if it is done fairly. Obama is not fair and his supporters are indoctrinated morons.
Statement: 'Taxation IS a redistribution of the wealth.'
Your comment: 'Not if it is done fairly.'
What the bloody blue blazes are you talking about? To you, what is fair redistribution - giving it ALL to your Republican cronies? Aren't you pigs porcine enough? You swine have had your snouts in the public trough for so long that you think that it is a Divine Right. I wasn't going to use words like moron and idiot, but there is no other way to describe your 'thought' processes. You're an IDIOT.
A quiet but public debate has arisen among both Republicans and Democrats that wonders which Obama we might get. Will it be the prudent, moderate, pragmatic, sensible president who will apply non-ideological, centrist policies? Or will it be the Obama who sought out the company of radicals, black racists, faculty-lounge Marxists and studied the methods of Saul Alinsky?
Many hope that it is the sensible centrist who will emerge -- even though it has been his style and cautiously evasive comments, rather than his substance, that have sounded so reasonable and calm. It is that moderate tone that has led some recent Obama supporters to hope that he is just lying about his views and is secretly 'sensible.' Although they do hope he told the truth when he said during the primary that his call for the unilateral rewriting of the North American Free Trade Agreement was merely rhetorical flourish on his part.
But of course, throughout history when dangerous, radical men have offered themselves up for leadership, their moderate supporters have rationalized their early support by hoping that the dangerous man is really a sensible man like them and doesn't believe some of those wild things he has said to his more fervent followers.
But as the campaign clock ticks down to its last days and hours, prudent people have to consider the possibility that beneath that easy manner and calming voice is the pulsating heart of a genuine man of the radical left.
For example, according to Ryan Lizza of the liberal New Republic, Obama's early mentor in the Alinsky method of social agitation was Mike Kruglik, whom Lizza paraphrased as saying: '(Obama) was a natural, the undisputed master of agitation, who could engage a room full of recruiting targets in a rapid-fire Socratic dialogue, nudging them to admit that they were not living up to their own standards. As with the panhandler, he could be aggressive and confrontational. With probing, sometimes personal questions, he would pinpoint the source of pain in their lives, tearing down their egos just enough before dangling a carrot of hope that they could make things better.'
As Kyle-Anne Shiver in the American Thinker explained after quoting those words: 'The agitator's job, according to Alinsky, is first to bring folks to the 'realization' that they are indeed miserable, that their misery is the fault of unresponsive governments or greedy corporations, then help them to bond together to demand what they deserve , and to make such an almighty stink that the dastardly governments and corporations will see imminent 'self-interest' in granting whatever it is that will cause the harassment to cease.
'In these methods, euphemistically labeled 'community organizing,' Obama had a four-year education, which he often says was the best education he ever got anywhere.'
And now we have Obama's genuinely shocking words from a 2001 National Public Radio interview: 'But the Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth and more basic issues of political and economic justice in this society. And to that extent, as radical as I think people try to characterize the Warren court, it wasn't that radical.
It didn't break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the Founding Fathers in the Constitution, at least as it's been interpreted, and the Warren court interpreted it in the same way that generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties. ...And one of the, I think, tragedies of the civil rights movement was -- because the civil rights movement became so court-focused, I think that there was a tendency to lose track of the political and community organizing and activities on the ground that are able to put together the actual coalitions of power through which you bring about redistributive change. ... The Constitution reflected an enormous blind spot in this culture that carries on until this day. ... The Framers had that same blind spot ... the fundamental flaw of this country.'
Now, just as the left often baselessly throws around the word 'racist,' the right is often extravagant with its charge of Marxism. But those accurate, in context words of Obama must raise in the mind of any reasonable person the suspicion that Obama's heart and soul is dangerously close -- if not fully seized of -- a Marxist (or perhaps Marxist Christian liberation theology) view of human and economic relations.
Consider that these words came from a man who has urged his followers to 'get in the face' of his opponents and has exalted recently -- in an uncharacteristic moment of lack of restraint -- that he has 'a righteous wind' at his back. That is a revealing word, righteous. It suggests that a person's actions have been 'judged' or 'reckoned' as leading a life that is pleasing to God. A verse in the Bible's book of Psalms speaks of one being shielded by God and receiving favor because of righteousness.
We live in dangerous days. The world economy teeters on the edge of the abyss. The exiting American president is a failed thing. An envious world smells a momentarily vulnerable America. The political beneficiary of Republican failure believes our Constitution is fatally flawed. He may be a committed Marxist. And if he held the presidency for four years, it would be the longest stretch that he ever held a full-time job. God save the republic.
From neutral media(yes folks, there is such a thing):
'Senior Republicans are planning to meet at a rural retreat in Virginia within days of the election to discuss how to rebuild a party they expect to be badly beaten in the White House and congressional races.
News of the meeting emerged as a poll in Arizona indicated that John McCain could suffer the embarrassing loss of his home state. The poll put McCain on 46% and Barack Obama on 44%, indicating the Republicans are struggling to hold on in their traditional heartlands.'
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