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mcain -mock obamas economics-correct him everyday you will give morein the pocket and grovel to the poorest of poor like obama does.hes smart but you must play the same game,throw money at the people and you will win easy,come doen off the clouds and mock obamas uncle scrooge mentality.
Go back to you kindergarden class. Get an education. Come back when you can spell. Better yet, come back when you can think for yourself.
You have shown your true colors again you liar, he is actually doing much better:
Newsweek
'There's no doubt--either among Republicans, Democrats, Independents or Martians--that if the 2008 presidential election were held today, Barack Obama would defeat John McCain. According to the poll aggregators at RealClear Politics, Obama would amass 264 electoral votes in an Oct. 7 election solely from states that favor him by more than six percent. That's six EVs shy of the White House. Toss in one more state (only one) where Obama is currently winning by a smaller spread--either Ohio, Florida, North Carolina, Virginia, Colorado or Missouri--and it's game, set, match. Obama's average national lead? Nearly 6 percent--more than double the size of George W. Bush's 2004 margin of victory.'
talking to yourself again?
As for the rest of your fantasy thet you call a post, there is only one possible reply: If wishes were horses...
Come out of your dream world, child.
[Alhough there is no evidence that the CIA directly supported the Taliban or Al Qaeda, some basis for military support of the Taliban was provided when, in the early 1980s, the CIA and the ISI (Pakistan's Interservices Intelligence Agency) provided arms to Afghans resisting the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, and the ISI assisted the process of gathering radical Muslims from around the world to fight against the Soviets. Osama Bin Laden was one of the key players in organizing training camps for the foreign Muslim volunteers. The U.S. poured funds and arms into Afghanistan, and 'by 1987, 65,000 tons of U.S.-made weapons and ammunition a year were entering the war.'[17]
The Taliban were based in the Helmand, Kandahar, and Uruzgan regions and were overwhelmingly ethnic Pashtuns and predominantly Durrani Pashtuns.[18]]
NOTICE THAT EVEN IS THERE IS NO DIRECT PROOF ABOUT THE CIA ITS WELL KNOWN THAT HUGE AMOUNTS OF ARMS WERE POURED IN BY THE USA TO THE CAMPS THAT BIN LADEN ORGANISED!!!!........I GUESS ALL WE NEED TO GET A FULL HOUSE IS FOR THE PENTAGON TO ALSO DISCLOSE HOW MUCH THEY ACTUALLY PAID THEM IN CASH ON TOP OF IT!!!!!!!!!!
THIS IS FROM THE LINK TO WIKIPEDIA YOU POSTED FOR ME!!!!!!!
NEXT TIME BOTHER TO READ BEFORE YOU SPIT YOUR NONSENCE OUT!
CRAZY FANATIC BABOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do you mean like Palins husband history of being a member of the 'Alaska Independence Party' ?
The same party that believes Alaska should secede from the US?
The same party who's leader - Joe Vogler - said 'The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government. ... And I won't be buried under their damn flag.'
The same Alaska Independence Party that Mrs. Palin told ealier this year: 'I'm delighted to welcome you to the 2008 Alaska Independence Party Convention. ... Keep up the good work!'
Those are documented facts.
How little you guys know about your candidates.
'And you dimwitted blind to the truth fool.'
Since you have been caught lying repeatedly here I wouldn't be too quick to lecture others on what the truth is.
'Can't you see your party has already destroyed the country.'
This country is not 'destroyed', if you think it is you had better get your idiotic ass out and save yourself.
'We need 'change' '
So you zombies say... Not all change is good. Reverting back to the failed policies of Jimmy Carter while socializing entire industries and giving away our sovereignty to organizations that hate our guts isn't a beneficial change,, you moron.
'Your old man is more of the McSame.'
You are just a bumper sticker chanting robot who can't think for herself.
'Good luck holding out hoping for things to turn.'
Thank you. I hope you are bitterly disappointed to the point where you pack your parasite ass up and leave my country.
' You want to elect someone for the sole purpose that he spent 5 1/2 years in a prison camp.'
McCain has served this country with honor and Obama hasn't served anything other them himself but no, that is not McCain's only qualification.
You want to elect someone or the sole purpose that he is black. That and he can speak the deliberately ambiguous words that other people put in his mouth in a lovely voice that makes you zombies swoon fall over yourselves. What you don't realize is that you are just tripping over his BS.
'Wee-hoo Obama to the top!'
Idiot. You don't care if that means that the USA goes on to the bottom. Just as long as you can get what you want like the spoiled little brat that you are.
Here’s what McCain has to say about the wonders of market-based health reform:
Opening up the health insurance market to more vigorous nationwide competition, as we have done over the last decade in banking, would provide more choices of innovative products less burdened by the worst excesses of state-based regulation.
So McCain, who now poses as the scourge of Wall Street, was praising financial deregulation like 10 seconds ago — and promising that if we marketize health care, it will perform as well as the financial industry
She calls what they do 'Good work'?
Here's her entire speech ....
'I'm Governor Sarah Palin, and I am delighted to welcome you to the 2008 Alaskan Independence Party Convention in the Golden Heart City, Fairbanks.
Your party plays an important role in our state's politics. I've always said that competition is so good, and that applies to political parties as well. I share your party's vision of upholding the Constitution of our great state. My administration remains focused on reining in government growth so individual liberty and opportunity can expand. I know you agree with that. We have a great promise to be a self-sufficient state, made up of the hardest-working, most grateful Americans in our nation.
So as your convention gets under way, I hope that you all are inspired by remembering that all those years ago, it was in this same city that Alaska's Constitution was born. And it was founded on hope, and trust, and liberty, and opportunity. I carry that message of opportunity forward in my administration as we continue to move our state ahead and create positive change.
So I say: Good luck on a successful and inspiring convention, keep up the good work, and God bless you.'
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Hardly a rebuke of their philosophy ... one of secession from the US.
Again, she calls it 'Good Work'
And her husband WAS an Alaska Independence Party member.
Those are the facts.
'Alhough there is no evidence that the CIA directly supported the Taliban or Al Qaeda,'
So I guess that rules out the billions that you said were given to them previously.
'NOTICE THAT EVEN IS THERE IS NO DIRECT PROOF ABOUT THE CIA ITS WELL KNOWN THAT HUGE AMOUNTS OF ARMS WERE POURED IN BY THE USA TO THE CAMPS THAT BIN LADEN ORGANISED!!!!'
The link I posted clearly states that there was no Taliban or aL Qaeda involvement with the CIA you stupid monkey. Indeed, the taiban didn't come in to existence until after the USA left Afganastan. How many times do you need that repeated for you until you understand?
'I GUESS ALL WE NEED TO GET A FULL HOUSE IS FOR THE PENTAGON TO ALSO DISCLOSE HOW MUCH THEY ACTUALLY PAID THEM IN CASH ON TOP OF IT!!!!!!!!!!'
You need a tranquilizer dart shot in to your insane ass.
'THIS IS FROM THE LINK TO WIKIPEDIA YOU POSTED FOR ME!!!!!!!'
And it doesn't contradict anything that I have said.
'...about how the iraqi goverment is taking legal actions against two usa firms for providing THE KEY components AND KNOW HOW for the chemical gases'
You can sue anyone for anything. The fact is that the weapons did not come from the USA. 'AND KNOW HOW'??? Mustard gas was invented in WW1 and you can make it by mixing 2 common household cleaners. 5 minutes with a search engine will give yoyu the 'knowhow'. Maybe the Iraqis are suing Google and Yahoo.
'I WONT EVEN BOTHER WITH YOUR LIES ANYMORE'
I haven't lied, you clown.
'YOUR OWN SOURCES THAT YOU POINT OUT PROVE YOU DEAD WRONG.'
No, they do not. Go back and read them again, if you can get past the hallucinations and voices in your head.
'YOU ARE A FANATIC, '
LOL.
The same Alaska Independence Party that Mrs. Palin told ealier this year: 'I'm delighted to welcome you to the 2008 Alaska Independence Party Convention. ... Keep up the good work!'
More lies.. Ill cut and paste as you did:
Notice the 'dot dot dot' in the above quote... that is the part of the speech where she states that she disagrees with their message. That ppart was censored out to completely reverse the meaning of the original comment.
This is another disproven obama lie. Sarah Palin was never in this party, she went on to state that she does not agree with them in her welcoming speech.
Here's what FactCheck.org says about that:
'She was never a member of the Alaskan Independence Party. She’s been registered as a Republican since May 1982. '
Full link to her speech:
jimtreacher.com/archives/001633.html
So.. Want to stop reposting this lie from the democratic underground?
Her exact speech ... not a rebuke as above claims'
'Your party ' (not Our party)
' I've always said that competition is good, and that applies to political parties as well' (So they are competing with each other, not in agreement.)
' most grateful Americans in our nation.' (AMERICANS, in our NATION of the USA...not just Alaskans, idiot.)
'Hardly the rebuke of their philosophy'
She makes it clear that she does not agree with them yet she welcomes them nonetheless.
'one of secession from the US.'
That is not what they call for. They were promised a vote on statehood in 1958 which they never got. That is what they are asking for. their platform:
'the AIP strives to make Alaska a better place to live with less government interference in our everyday lives.'
Gee, sounds horrible... Meanwhile your guy belonged to a damn America church for 20 years, associates with terrorists who declared war on the USA and wants to run the country inti the ground with socialism... yet you lie about this..
[The link I posted clearly states that there was no Taliban or aL Qaeda involvement with the CIA you stupid monkey. Indeed, the taiban didn't come in to existence until after the USA left Afganastan. How many times do you need that repeated for you until you understand? ]
it was the RUSSIANS that left agfanistan MORON,AND THE USA WEAPONS ALL THOSE THOUSANDS OF TONS A YEAR WERE USED AGAINST THEM AND NOW AGAINST US, THE USA WENT IN IN 2001 AND ARE STILL THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
' it was the RUSSIANS that left agfanistan'
Yes, and then the USA did as the job of chasing them out was done, MORON.
'AND THE USA WEAPONS ALL THOSE THOUSANDS OF TONS A YEAR WERE USED AGAINST THEM AND NOW AGAINST US,'
No, what brought the USA back to Afghanistan was not US or Russian weapons, it was box cutters, hijacked aircraft and the theology of a long dead caravan raiding pedophile.
Regardless, this has nothing to do with Obama cozying up to modern day, America hating, genuine terrorists.
'THE USA WAS IN AGFANISTAN YOU SAY,'
The CIA, yes.
'YOU JUST SAID THAT!!!!!!!!!'
Indeed.
'AND WAS GIVING LOADS OF WEAPONS TO THE TALIBAN '
No, there was no Taliban when we were there. Why are you not understanding this? It has been explained over and over to the point where even a chimp could get it.
'AS THE LINK SAIS[sic] EXPICITLY[sic] AND CLEARLY AND YOU ADMIT!!!!.'
That is not what the link says. Go back ad read it.
', THEY WERE CREATED LONG BEFORE THAT AND FOUGHT THE RUSSIANS WITH AMERICAN WEAPONS,'
No, that was the mujahadeen, The taliban are a different theocratic political movement. What we supported dissolved into what predominately became the Northern alliance and scattered warlords. The only thing we gave to the taliban was humanitarian aid because Afghans were starving to death under them.
'TALIBAN CAMPS, ORGANISED[sic] BY BIN LADEN, GETTING THOUSANDS OF TONS OF USA WEAPONS EVERY YEAR.'
It simply does not say that, you are nuts.
'SO THE TALIBAN AND BIN LADEN WERE THE SAME!!!!!!!!!!! 'AND GOT WEAPONS FROM USA, '
Wow. You are just crazy, that's all. Try reading the words instead of seeing what you want to see.
He did not say she was a member you idiot, he said her husband was a member, so please quit posting copied right wing talking points!
Why would anyone object to Palin's association with the AK Independence Party, even if she were a member, which she is not?
What's wrong with that?
Guilty by association - same as it's been said about Obama. What's good for the goose is good for the gander so to speak!
'SO ALL THESE WEAPONS THAT WENT INTO AGFANISTAN BY REGAN AND MCCAIN DID NOT END UP AT THE HANDS OF THE TALIBAN??????????'
Some of them may have but that wasn't your assertion. What you stated is that the USA aided the Taliban and al Qaeda to the tune of billions. It is simply wrong. You stated that incorrect assertion to crazily claim that the USA is a terrorist enterprise and therefore it is OK for Obama to associate with terrorists because everyone is a terrorist. You are a mental case.
'YOUR WHOLE ARGUMENT IS THAT BEFORE THESE PEOPLE WERE NAMED MUJAHEDIN, THEN TALIBAN, SO THEY ARE NOT THE SAME PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!'
They were different political movements. Indeed they had different people running them.
'YOU MORON ITS THE SAME PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'
No, not in charge, not with the same political ideology. If there is something to blame the USA for it is that we abandoned the decent Afgahns and let the Pakistanis do whatever they wanted. We lost internist after we got what we wanted. But no.... and get his straight: We did not support the Taliban with Billions of dollars.
'CHECK THE LINK YOU POSTED FOR ME BABOON=
[The first major military activity of the Taliban was in October-November 1994 '
So was Reagan resident in 1994? Were we sending Afghanistan billions of dollars in 1994? Are you still not getting this?
'GET IT SURRENDERING TO THEM HANDS DOWN, '
And? Some of the people that we previously supported surrendered. Is that the same as sending the people that they surrendered to billions? Of course not. Now, say the same thing all over again with more exclamation points.
'Guilty by association - same as it's been said about Obama. What's good for the goose is good for the gander so to speak!'
Palin wasn't mentored by terrorists who declared war on the USA. Obama was.
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