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@SP4: 5 times????Oct 7th, 2008 - 17:43:51

SPAM. Even by sp4's own admission, it is spam. Please to be removing it. It would be nice to block SP4's IP as a spammer as your warnings state.

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SP4: Interesting tooOct 7th, 2008 - 17:50:46

...because I got that info from THIS website!

Have you realized just how large of a female human womb you've become? Is it so hard to read the truth? Do you not have even a single solitary meaningful comment to offer?

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Shuddup you crazy chimpOct 7th, 2008 - 17:50:53

'the only difference of the two is that the mujahedin of the northen alliance wanted a separate state from the taliban who were the mujahedin of the south,'

Wrong again. Here, since you didn't read what I wrote here is a link to an encyclopedia, go get an education:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban

'YOUR ICONS PROVIDED EXTENSIVE FINANCIAL AND MILITARY HARDWARE TO THE TWO OF THEM, INCLUDING BIN LADEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'

All the exclamation points in the world don't make that true. Where we went wrong in Afganastan was turning our backs on them after we helped toss out the Soviets. Pakistani 'intelligence' and Saudi islamism filled the gap. Your rantings are just thoroughly discredited conspiracy theories that appeal to primitive minds.

' THE GAS OF HUSAIN WAS MADE IN THE USA!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT GERMANY SO STOP LYING!!!!!!!!!!'

Again, you are lying. The gas was made in Iraq with components from Germany. I posted a link to a source stating that. You have yet to provide any evidence to the contrary.

The know-how and material for developing chemical weapons were obtained by Saddam's regime from foreign firms.[12] By far, the largest suppliers of precursors for chemical weapons production were in Singapore (4,515 tons), the Netherlands (4,261 tons), Egypt (2,400 tons), India (2,343 tons), and West Germany (1,027 tons). One Indian company, Exomet Plastics (now part of EPC Industrie Ltd.) sent 2,292 tons of precursor chemicals to Iraq. The Kim Al-Khaleej firm, located in Singapore and affiliated to United Arab Emirates, supplied more than 4,500 tons of VX, sarin, and mustard gas precursors and production equipment to Iraq.

You can make mustard gas out of common household chemicals.... Regardless, what does this have to do with Obama?

'THE PICTURES OF THE CRATES WITH THE LOGO MADE IN THE USA WERE QUITE CLEAR!!!!!!!!!!'

Lets see these pictures then. Provide a link to the 'US made chemical weapons crate photos that were used on Saddam's own people' pictures, you ranting monkey.

' MCCAIN SAID HIM SELF MANY MANY TIMES OVER THAT HE WAS INVOLVED IN ALL THE IMPORTANT PROJECTS LIKE THIS AND THAT HE HAS AN EXTENSIVE RECORD!!'

Well, it should be easy for you to track down a quote where he takes credit for all the terrorism in the world. Go away and find it, otherwise you are just making a fool out of yourself.

' THE SIXTIES RENEGADE PROFESSOR THAT YOU TRY TO POTRAY AS A TERRORIST CANNOT BE COMPARED '

He is a murdering pig who declared war on the SA and bombed the capital, police stations, the pentagon and families of judges and he is obamas friend, mentor and business associate. What does that say about Obama?

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Get a clueOct 7th, 2008 - 17:53:24

'SPAM. Even by sp4's own admission, it is spam. Please to be removing it. It would be nice to block SP4's IP as a spammer as your warnings state. '

Yet somehow your trail of lame retorts posted by your sockpuppets doesn't qualify as 'spam' in your screwed up mind.

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@SP4: Interesting tooOct 7th, 2008 - 17:59:31

What type of drug are you ingesting now????????
YOU SAY: 'Have you realized just how large of a female human womb you've become?'
Say WHAT???? Didn't you take any biology in school? By your statement there is such a thing as a male human womb. That is patently absurd, like you.
YOU SAY: 'Is it so hard to read the truth?'
I read the truth all the time. It is your lies that stink.
YOU SAY: 'Do you not have even a single solitary meaningful comment to offer?'
I do it all the time. When are YOU going to start, SPAMMER?

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@Get a clueOct 7th, 2008 - 18:01:19

Precisely when are you going to get one, sock puppet?

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JoeOct 7th, 2008 - 18:08:42

And while the petty minded on this site continue to throw insults at each other, the Dow carries on downwards - minus another 288 points last time I looked.
Why don't you morons try saying something positive rather than just blaming each other for the mess America has created around the World. The next prsident may not matter - nothing left to govern !

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heyOct 7th, 2008 - 18:10:54

listen to sp4 .
he has brains in his hemeroids.

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TO JoeOct 7th, 2008 - 18:20:21

The petty minded you refer to must be SP and friends. The rightwing GOP toadies have one tool in their tool box. It is the attack mode. Part of that is the insult bag. If they get some back, then fine and good. As to the economy, that is on another thread, over there, somewhere. If you want to talk about it, go there.

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@JoeOct 7th, 2008 - 18:22:59

Well said. The mud being slung back and forth about the past is ludicrous or guilty by association at best. How many crime lords have been at the same party as some politian, so are they guilty? and it could go on and on. I want to hear what the candidates have to say about their proposed policies, and the minute they start a campaign speech/ads knocking the opposite guy, I turn off. It would appear that most of McCain's ads lately have started out saying 'Obama', and now Miss Alaska has joined in with her breathless campaign speeches like there is no tomorrow. Well, I've got news for her, there probably isn't going to be a tomorrow for her!

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fringeOct 7th, 2008 - 18:37:05

When candidates doesn’t want to run a political campaign based upon issues and their party’s platform, or are just afraid of losing an election, they can use some character assassination techniques to try to eliminate the opponents. Pick a label, any bad label, and try to make it stick. It doesn’t matter what the facts are, or what the truth is, as long voters believe in the label. Repeat the phrase long enough and perhaps they will start to believe. The tactic can work well especially if the label contains phrases like “un-patriotic”, or “un-American”, or “friend of terrorists”.
Welcome to the brave new world of fringe politics.
Just be careful that you are not associated with something on the fringe yourself.

Such as the Alaska Independence Party, of which Todd Palin, husband of the Republican VP candidate, has been a card carrying member for years. Not to make it guilt by association, Sarah Palin has accompanied her husband to at least one party convention as a husband and wife team of supporters. Nothing wrong with that except here is some of the party’s platform-
1. The Party motto is “Alaska First”, before allegiance to the nation.
2. The Party wants to have a state vote on secession from the United States.
3. The Party “supports the privatization of government services.”
4. The Party wants “complete repatriation of the public land held by the federal government.”
5. Another Party motto is “The problem with you John Birchers’ is that you are too damn liberal.”- quoted from the Alaska Independence Party founder, and web site.

Then there are the links to other similar websites like-
1. Southern Independence Party of North Carolina- spnc.net.
Their party platform calls for the “secession from the American union by each of the 16 Southern states. No, this was not from 1861, but written in 1999-2000.
2. Southern Independence Party of Tennessee- siptenn.org
Their platform calls for establishing a “sunset clause [expiration date] for all laws and regulations.”
3. Miami Independence Movement-
These folks want Miami-Dade country to secede from Florida and the United States.
4. Texas Nationalist Organization-
These patriotic cowboys advocate that Texas secede from the United States.

There are many other interesting links at the Alaska Independence Party website-akip.org
It is impressive just how un-patriotic and un-American all these organizations really are.

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TO ;- HEYOct 7th, 2008 - 18:41:02

The embarrassing and irritating pox inflicted by the grace of God on the human rectum is actually spelt HEMORRHOIDS in American and the more precise and cultural HAEMORRHOIDS in English.

Poor SP4, he`s getting a real spanking in these posts.

Is he really THAT bad or is he an unfortunate martyr to intellectual wisdom and superiority against the jealous onslaught of the common proletariat ?

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@TO ;- HEYOct 7th, 2008 - 18:46:08

You say: 'Is he really THAT bad or is he an unfortunate martyr to intellectual wisdom and superiority against the jealous onslaught of the common proletariat ?'
Short answer: He is that bad.
Long answer: He is that bad.

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YepOct 7th, 2008 - 18:54:17

SP has a problem with repeating over and over again - much like most old timers. But....never fear, he won't be posting tomorrow as he proclaims he doesn't watch more than a very few minutes of a debate! A superior attitude generally doesn't go down well, thus, one of his main problems.It would appear that the nastiness has started with McCain/McPalin, and I think McCain is the one who said early on he wouldn't go that route.....hmmmm - forgetfulness or desperation???

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GlenOct 7th, 2008 - 19:10:48

In SP's case the alleged intellectual superiority is merely a compensatory behavior resulting from his drug addiction. He is not superior in any way, shape or form. A truly intellectually superior person would lead, guide, or otherwise educate another person. SP attacks. He bludgeons. That is the modus operandi of an intellectually inferior, egoistical moron. How typical of the Republicans.

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Maybe if McSameOct 7th, 2008 - 20:30:01

would talk tonight about what he was going to do to help the GOP (Grandpas Old Party) fix (or at least start to fix) some of the problems he helped create then his numbers would not look like this:

RCP Average 10/01 - 10/06 -- 49.6 44.1 Obama +5.5
Gallup Tracking 10/04 - 10/06 2747 RV 51 42 Obama +9
Rasmussen Tracking 10/04 - 10/06 3000 LV 52 44 Obama +8
Hotline/FD Tracking 10/04 - 10/06 908 LV 46 44 Obama +2
Reuters/CSpan/Zogby Tracking 10/04 - 10/06 1237 LV 48 45 Obama +3
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 10/04 - 10/05 658 RV 49 43 Obama +6
CBS News 10/03 - 10/05 616 LV 48 45 Obama +3
CNN 10/03 - 10/05 694 LV 53 45 Obama +8
GW/Battleground Tracking 10/01 - 10/06 800 LV 50 43 Obama +7
Democracy Corps (D) 10/01 - 10/05 1000 LV 49 46 Obama +3

Wew-hoo, Obama to the top!

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Idiot, you're rooting for destruction for AmericaOct 7th, 2008 - 20:35:58

'Wew-hoo, Obama to the top!'

Gee, he is behind Kerry and Gore at this point, look at how well they did. More shoes yet to drop on Barack Hussein Obama.

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SP4: none of that...Oct 7th, 2008 - 20:51:08

makes me wrong...

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@ SPdrug addictOct 7th, 2008 - 20:55:38

Just being you, makes you wrong.

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@Idiot, you're rooting for destruction for AmericaOct 7th, 2008 - 21:08:40

And you dimwitted blind to the truth fool. Can't you see your party has already destroyed the country. We need 'change' and not the same old crap to shake up the status quo. Your old man is more of the McSame.

Good luck holding out hoping for things to turn.

What a complete and total failure as a human. You want to elect someone for the sole purpose that he spent 5 1/2 years in a prison camp.

Wee-hoo Obama to the top!

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