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Sarah and John(hero).Sep 6th, 2008 - 22:25:01

Get them oil derricks ready boys, we're going in.

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katESep 6th, 2008 - 22:50:09

Isn't it about time for Larry Flint to make an offer for some pics?

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@ William Kristol posterSep 7th, 2008 - 00:04:01

Catch a clue, right wing talking points by right wing writers are not going to swing anyone to your point of view. Good try, but you and Mr. Kristol are nut-jobs.

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SP4: On the Contrary....Sep 7th, 2008 - 00:08:35

..30% of Rush Limbaugh's listeners define themselves as liberal....now maybe they are not really liberal but, if true, would take your theory on right wing writers and send it to the trash heap.

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SP4....Sep 7th, 2008 - 00:27:41

Where do you get your facts? Out of your demented mind? Sometimes it is OK for you to shut the hell up, your blathering is so sad. Your perspective is completely laughable and your intelligence is suspect.

And you are wrong again, no matter how many purported liberals listen to Rush, Kristol being a right wing nut job is a correct assumption and that fact makes any opinion of his suspect. That said the original point (I think) was that right wing opinions are not going to convince anyone to switch to McSame.

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CaseySep 7th, 2008 - 01:05:52

McCain will have a tough road ahead going against both Democrats and Republicans.

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summerinTexasSep 7th, 2008 - 02:47:06

DEEDS PLEASE- NOT VERBAL CRAPRESPONSE: Tell the truth, White people don't want to vote for for DEMOCRATICbecause the he is a black men.Hey, I live in Texas, where that B.S er George Bush Jr. is from and I know B.S. when I see it.I have looked at shows where people find items left over from the civil war.All, I am saying is that racism, dies hard and the only reason we get better is because some of those old haters, die.White people are racist. period. They feel like we, black people are not American citizens because our ancestors come from Africa and they don't want to see a Black President and they are hiding behind bull shit reasons. The Indians were the real Americans. We have been in this country as long at the people from England and worked our asses off and deserve to be in leadership positions.White people are scared they are going to have to get on the back of the bus if the democrats win. White people love power and want to control the world because they feel entitled to. Well, get a clue,if McCain was for change he should have done it by now.and wake up poor white folk. If you make less that $250,000, McCain is not talking about you. If you vote for him because his VP candidate has a vagina, you are going to ge the same old in a new box.But some of you stupid white folk would prefer that rather than a black man. Wake up!

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SP4: Dear Professor nobodySep 7th, 2008 - 04:02:53

SP4....Sep 7th, 2008 - 00:27:41

Where do you get your facts?

SP4 - Wall Street Journal...Forbes...where do you get yours?

Out of your demented mind?

sp4 - If I want juvenile sarcasm, I have my own kids for that.

Sometimes it is OK for you to shut the hell up,

sp4 - not really the point on a posting site, or did that, too, not occur to you?

your blathering is so sad.

sp4 - that, of course, still does not make me wrong, professor.

Your perspective is completely laughable and your intelligence is suspect.
And you are wrong again,

sp4 - but you lack the data to make any kind of case, right?

no matter how many purported liberals listen to Rush,
Kristol being a right wing nut job is a correct assumption

sp4 - assumption is the mother of all f--kups...why does that premise make HIM wrong. By what calculus do you arrive at such a conclusion?

and that fact makes any opinion of his suspect.

sp4 - everyone's opinion is suspect to people with real intellect, didn't you know that? Drawing wide conclusions from limited information is a sign of intellectual laziness. I have been guilty of that, occasionally, but not now.

That said the original point (I think) was that right wing opinions are not going to convince anyone to switch to McSame.

sp4 - someone's opinions do, why not his? How do you arrive at this conclusion, professor? Data collection? Statistical analysis? I offered more fact than you started out with, regardless of my conclusions!

The problem with you Professor is you, somehow, assume you are right, without any facts to support such a conclusion. You have, with no data, convinced yourself that you are simply right, like the holy spirit descended upon you.

I offer one, undeniable point, and you cave, retreating into theime-honored libnazi retort:

1) stupid

2)crazy

3)radical

..argument all libnazis retreat into. Real intellect is hard, prefessor. Improve your methods and then
come back.

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tonny from belgiumSep 7th, 2008 - 08:02:11

Sometimes one wonders about the sanity of some posters:what is the purpose of posting crimes committed in the name of islam by some retards in Somalia or Pakistan.This has absolutely no incidence on your elections .These cimes are committed during the presidency of the GOP and nothing,absolutely nothing Bush,McCain or Obama or even Hillary Clinton does will impact on that .Nor will future policies of any candidate either in the USA or somewhere in Europe .Religion can be inspiing as long as it is not organized and coerced.As far as I know all the prophets are crooks and liars neither suffering from hallucinations and paranoia or hunger for money and power .Unfortunately your next president will change little to that .Especially if Palin is involved as she stands for creationism,yet another silly obsolete figment of the bronze age,only able to sustain itself ibn the brains of those that lack education (SP4 jumps to mind,given his long list of errors and mistakes ).What is much more important and what must be achieved is universal health care.We have it,so can you .better education too is needed.How can anybody possibly believe the world is 6500 years old .Have you no lessons in geography,physics,astro physics,biology,chemistry ,history and others .Every science leads to the same conclusion;evolution .
It is mindboggling that a nation which used to be great is sinking so deep in this morass of spin and shame .Wht happened to the country that was proud on it's human right record .Torture,kidnapping,disdain for the rest of the world and total paranoia grips part of your population .Is it normal that teachers have to attend class wearing arms ?Is it normal that you have to install metal detectors in schools ?based on your second amendment,written in times when there were no AK47 or UZI.The world has changed and better adapt to it.Dispose of bronze age religions that force their laws down your throats,make you all obey their rules based on figments .Be it muslim or evangelism:they are mostly insane and plain wrong.Chuch and politics must be separated for the sake of democracy .
And of course there is health care .Never ever have I heard any explanation why private insurance based on the greed of corporate tycoons is better performing than universal health care .just check the post of SP4 on that and you will see for yourselves how pitiful the arguments are .About the same low quality as the denial of global warming or the invasion of Iraq.That is what I meant with education ..Al Gore had it right just as Michael Moore is right,hence these are the public ennemies of the GOP and smear upon smear is poured upon them.their argumens are never opposed,they cant be,so go for the mudslinging.and again this is happening,with Obama too.Just read the posts and see whatr kind of arguments are used.Time to discuss programs perhaps....

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SpitfireSep 7th, 2008 - 08:11:54

Wasn't this joker shot down and beaten like a little bitch?

He was rammed with a poker and became the camp's whistle snitch!

Than he got caught cheating on his now ex-wife

He left her and decided to make US politics his life

How special this US election has become

A white handicap, a black and a woman are diversity to some

What will become of the elections themselves some may wonder

Will their be election fraud again some ponder

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tonny from belgiumSep 7th, 2008 - 16:03:21

Especially for you all a movie from Michael Moore freely available on the web:
www.theslackeruprising.com
have fun...

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tonny from belgiumSep 7th, 2008 - 16:05:38

Sorry only available as from sept 23th ...you'll just have to wait a bit.Meanwhile satisfy yourselves with the comments from our neocon friends here that haven't seen it yet.

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SP4: Dem Corporate Greed TonnySep 7th, 2008 - 16:45:42

It's the same old Libnazi Chestnut:

Stupid

Crazy

Radical

The Bolshivik argument that anyone disagreeing with them MUST be crazy. Now, it's the church of the divine libnazi, and their Inquisitors, the drive-by, liberal media doing the persecution.

They have ignored the glaring interfaces with the liberal - corporate tychoons of NBC, CBS, and ABC (ATT, Enron, AMOCO, Boeing, GM, Ford, Chrysler, Lockmart...wanna larger list, just ask) but yet, have the gall to impune the right for any of their associations to any coproate enemy.

Yes, Tonny, go see what boards Al Gore, Hillary Clinton, etc., is, or has been on:

Apple - fighting an Options backdating scam using Al Gore as the front man

Wal-Mart - remember them Tonny? Hillary Clinton certainly does, although the left wing libnazi press has gagged this for the last 7 years, very effectively. After all, ever wonder WHY Nafta and MFN for China passed so easily???

Boeing - Single source military leasing, to get around the bid process, started in the 1990's, greenlighted by the Clintons, along with MFN status to China, to greenlight outsourcing of jobs in Washington state. Mccain put a wooden stake through this one saving an estimated 15 to 40 Billion, depending on just how much we got fleeced.

AMOCO - Sandy Berg(l)ar and his oil-for-money schemes involving Russian, Georgian, etc. campaign funds, sold White House influence via his old law firm overseas. After all, why do you think he REALLY stole all those 9/11 docs?

AT&T - limiting Internet access in cities where they install hardwire with backroom deals, greenlighted by Senator Wyden (D..what else...) of Oregon, until judge Panner stuck it back up their asses.

Lockmart - Clinton-flubb'ed F22 and the B2, so expensive that even Rumsfeld was on record as wanting to cancel most of them, but were kept alive vis a vis the Boeing connection. DD21, Seawolf...god, the list was endless. Bush took a wooden stake and mallet to as much as he could, but we got stuck with the rest.

Never mind White water, collecting FBI records on political enemies, Pardon of puerto rican terrorists, letting Osama Bin Laden walk from Somali custody, pardons of Marc Rich for money and the endless file losses, Vince Foster, Clinton Foundation-for-influence scam, Mr. Hsu Inc., Catholic Church Properties pyramid scheme...god Tonny, the list makes Bush look like St. Francis of Assisi...

All ignored, covered up and gagged by the same press that has impuned Bush for 7.5 years, crucified Alberto 'pinata' Gonzales for capping crooked Congeressmen, and seems to think Karl Rove has two horns and a tail.

Tonny, no one's buying the 'crazy' argument anymore than the 'intelligent argument' especially anything from that fat f--k Moore, that talking head Gore, or the libnazi intelliguista that was fooled by what they have described as a 'dumb' president who managed to fool 400 congressmen about WMD's in Iraq, if you can possibly believe their stinted logic. Supposedly, we are now to laud Biden for being fooled by this dumb president...I guess.



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SpitfireSep 8th, 2008 - 02:37:03

Grok this :

What if McSame is a Saturday night special, a throwaway gun?

What if the repugnicans DON'T WANT to win this election?

What if they just aren't interested in picking up their own - considerable - messes? Or just don't know how? Just look at them, listen to them. These guys aren't rocket scientists, after all.

That doesn't mean the old geezer can't win, though. God knows there are a lot of things that can go wrong, like that 'Florida Hat Trick' they pulled the last time...


Spitfire

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SpitfireSep 8th, 2008 - 03:02:09

And what's with this brain dead loser using my name to post his stupid comments, anyway? That's so lowbrow he HAS to be a repugnican dipstick.

Spitfire

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