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By Chris Cermak Jun 26, 2008, 16:56 GMT
Supreme Court rejects city gun ban, upholds gun rights (2nd Roundup)
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This will be a problem for the good people of Maryland & northern Virginia. As DC residents become less easy targets, DC criminals will spread teir favors more widely.
I don't think Virginians have much to worry about as they are quite capable of defending themselves. It's us Marylanders that have to worry due to the gun grabbing leftists that run this gulag.
I don't live in the USA.
'Thank God
I don't live in the USA.'
Agreed.
I have freedom, you don't.
Buy Guns over the counter in the UK.
The last time I SAW a gun in was a farmers 12 bore shotgun.
Apart from Military displays we rarely see guns here, except for the UK Constabularly (Police) at Airports,but rarely, anywhere else.
Our Canadian neighbors think everyone in the U.S. carries a gun and some feel it's a dangerous place to be!! It does seem that every time there is a report of an argument between someone, they all pull out their guns and fire away.
England has had an increasing violent crime rate since they essentially banned guns. Canada has had an increase, Australia has had an increase... The concept that 'When you outlaw guns, only outlaws have guns' seems lost on you people. Every state that has passed 'shall issue' laws, increasing the number of legally held guns has seen a decrease in crime and places where guns are not allowed are the places that the criminals who don't obey the law to begin with go and use their illegal guns to commit crimes without fear of retribution from a person with a legal gun.
Gun ownership reduces gun crime. It's a fact. Not everyone has or should have one, but the fact that the criminals don't know who does and who doesn't sure slows them down.
And with your inability to see the obvious, I'm glad you don't live in America either.
Stoney
A Red letter day!
I don't care about your crime statistics. I don't care about your gun-phobia. This was an end run to destroy gun ownership and it failed.
We are supposed to have rights and, no matter which one, there is a liberal trying to trim it off the Constitution. Fortunately, we have 5 lawyers who know what the Constitution is supposed to be for. The other four communists need to go.
'all governments end in tyranny' Thomas Jefferson
I don't think anyone other than law enforcement should be allowed to carry a concealed weapon. When was the last time you heard that an ordinary citizen used their gun to defend themselves, but you constantly hear about people getting into fights and using their guns to settle it.
funny thing, I'm American, and my one time my then Oxford educated (Doctor of physics) English boyfriend (lives here) nearly killed me with a loaded .38
Only time I have ever been threatened by a gun.
...carries risk and responsibility. Advanced citizenship is real work. Time to take your rights seriously. We get tired advocating for you.
'I live in England
I have freedom, you don't.'
That's why half the people in my co-op are 'Xpats' who have fled the UK nanny state and no-go zones for the freedom and economic opportunity, not to mention the cheaper booze, of the USA.
Having seen the UK regularly over the past 30ish years I can only say you are not as nearly as free over there as your parents were. It is just your mindset that has done it too.
Thus spake Lord Clarkson:
www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/jeremy_clarkson/article418 6068.ece
Snippet from the linked piece:''The machine needs to be fed. When you have 650 members of parliament elected to make laws, and an army of 500,000 civil servants whose job is to make sure that those laws work, and more legions in Brussels making more laws, there is never going to be any respite. The machine can never rest until absolutely everything is illegal.
Whenever I let my mind wander, I become quivery-lipped and frightened thinking about all the things I could do 10 years ago that I cannot do now. I may not smack my children, for instance, or talk on a mobile telephone while driving or put too much salt on my mashed potato or smoke at home if my cleaning lady objects or give my donkey a tender burial or encourage my dogs to kill rats. And if I put the wrong thing in the wrong-coloured dustbin, I’m likely to spend the next five years digging tunnels.''
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If it is of any consolation to our British Cousins, the same kind of idiocracy is taking over on our side of the pond. The sad news is, there is nowhere left to run. It is already necessary to turn and fight.
Never seen such a bunch of crazy arguments to defend guns .The two worst as usual SP7 and nohatness.THe first doesn't give a shit about the statistics ,because human live is nt real to him.And then of course there is noharness,saying in not so many words that guns are outlawed in europe to feed the necessity for a thriving burocracy .That was his mos stupid comment ever .AS if there are no better reasons .You could save at least a hunderd american lives a day,from which many children.Even toddlers kill each others in the USA .THere is not one civilized country in the world allowing things meant to kill only in the hands of it's population.You are in the company of Soudan,Ethiopia,Colombia,Brazil and a few others .As for the argument that a gun will defend you,please clarify how your gun will stop the bullet from another gun from hitting you .Perhaps magic ?
When my children are playing in the back yard and a rabid fox or much to friendly black bear comes wandering in, you bet I want my gun handy. It seems like a lot of the posts here can't see any other use for guns than committing criminal offenses. There are proper uses and more responsible citizens using them than criminals. It's just that responsible gun use doesn't make the headlines. Just because some criminally minded miscreants of society use them for their violent crimes is no reason for me to give up my right to own my rifle.
A few figures which may help put the gun owning idiocy in perspective -
In america (year 2000 figures - but still very relevant)
The average cost for treating each unintentional shooting is $22,400. The average cost for treating each gun-related injury is $18,400. Because most victims of gun violence in America are uninsured, the public ends up footing the bill for their treatment.
According to the Annual Bill To The Nation costs of gun violence in the US have been estimated at between $100 billion and $126 billion.
During the ENTIRE Korean War, 33,651 American were killed. That is less than the number killed by guns EACH YEAR in america !
The ENTIRE Vietnam War cost 58,000 american lives. Keep buying those guns - you'll soon get thbe yearly kill rate up to the Vietnam figure
'Remember folks, guns don't kill people...
bullets do.'
Oh, my! Look who popped up when I put the bureaucrats in their place, the Belgian Control Freak. Way to go, Tonny. I appreciate your helping me make my case.
I'm not against gun ownership but don't think hand guns should be allowed to the general public.
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