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By Chris Cermak Jun 26, 2008, 16:07 GMT

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lanceJun 26th, 2008 - 16:45:52

'The 1791 amendment allowed states the right to form their own militias to defend themselves against possible tyranny by the federal government.'

So, that is what is happening in Iraq! The U.S. Constitution does not apply to Iraq, but the same concept does.

'Justice Scalia acknowledged the amendment may be 'outmoded' in a time of a standing national army, but said it was up to Congress - not judges - to repeal it.'

When hell freezes over. The militias are intended to counteract a standing national army commanded by a crazy man ... like Bush, who thinks jesus gives him the right to slaughter people and kill of societies he does not like.

If a muslim became president of the U.S. and started killing christians then I think Scalia (a devout Catholic) would be more understanding.


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Dear Lance:Jun 26th, 2008 - 17:08:43

There were about 42,000 gun deaths in the US in 2007. And about 84,000 gun caused injuries. That is just one year. The Korean war killed only 33,000. Nam killed 58,0000, And how many years did did that one last? You currently have a christian president in a country of christians killing and maiming other christians. What does that say to you? Screw your hatred for muslims, it is the christian americans who are the dangerous rats.

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lanceJun 26th, 2008 - 18:50:53

'Screw your hatred for muslims'

Gosh, normally I get screwed for my hatred for christians.

If you care to read, and understand, my post you shall find out that both comments can not be further from the truth. In reality, I hate no one and only reflect the hatred displayed around the world.

In regards to your gun comments: You have not commented accurately. You say 'gun deaths', but guns are not alive so they can not die. You say 'gun caused', however guns can not cause an action because they have no capability to effect an action. They are inanimate objects.

The U.S. society can certainly stand to be more civil, but don't blame guns for the lack of civility.

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SP4:Jun 26th, 2008 - 20:32:27

'The 1791 amendment allowed states the right to form their own militias to defend themselves against possible tyranny by the federal government.'

sp4 - perhaps but the bill of rights is supposed to apply to the PEOPLE, not governemtn, not militias, the baseball team, etc.

So, that is what is happening in Iraq! The U.S. Constitution does not apply to Iraq, but the same concept does.

sp4 - correct. This has nothing to do with Iraq.

'Justice Scalia acknowledged the amendment may be 'outmoded' in a time of a standing national army, but said it was up to Congress - not judges - to repeal it.'

sp4 - that would be correct. Fortuantely, we have five justices who know what the law is.

When hell freezes over. The militias are intended to counteract a standing national army commanded by a crazy man ... like Bush, who thinks jesus gives him the right to slaughter people and kill of societies he does not like.

sp4 - I've tudied Bush his whole carrier and nothing leads me to any reason that supports this fantasy.

If a muslim became president of the U.S. and started killing christians then I think Scalia (a devout Catholic) would be more understanding.


sp4 - If a muslim became President, he'd be under the same laws as a Christian president.

Lance, go inform yourself.

One other thing: The Constitution does NOT grant you your rights, they are INHERENT to you. The Constitution is there to PRESERVE your inherent rights. Fortunately, we have five Justices who understand THAT!

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SP4: oh yeah..one other thing...Jun 26th, 2008 - 20:33:21

...Chicago...s--k my d--k!

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lanceJun 26th, 2008 - 21:03:42

'sp4 - If a muslim became President, he'd be under the same laws as a Christian president.'

You mean a muslim president would be able to command a vast military machine to overthrow any government he pleases in the name of allah and kill christians with billions of dollars of advanced weaponry?

just as:

A christian president has commanded a vast military machine to overthrow any government he pleases in the name of jesus and kill muslims with billions of dollars of advanced weaponry.

Then I think the laws need to be changed, or at least reinterpreted.

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How the rest of the world sniggers atJun 26th, 2008 - 21:47:50

The right of American citizens to bear arms and shoot each other in droves with them.

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42,000 is a lie!Jun 26th, 2008 - 22:24:46

Where in the world did you get 42,000 gun deaths in the US, in 2007?
What a ridiculous number. 42,000?
What is it with you domesticated types? How can you just pull numbers like that out of your butt?
The upside about America is that folks like you will always have the option to embrace victimhood and rely on civil servants for your immediate safety.

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lanceJun 26th, 2008 - 22:53:43

According to the FBI, in 2006 there were 14,990 total murders in the U.S., of which 10,177 where by firearms. Meaning 68% of all murders were effected with the use of guns, i.e: the majority of murders are accomplished with the aid of a gun.

However, I think the FBI figures are low in total number of murders.

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NoharnessJun 26th, 2008 - 23:33:08

The Wikipedia has done a decent job of describing this case:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Heller

Here is an interesting snippet from the Wikipedia article:

'Prior to the Supreme Court's decision in June of 2008, several politicians from the state of Montana, including the Montana Secretary of State, had signed a joint resolution [46] asserting that, if the Supreme Court ruled against an individual-rights interpretation of the second amendment, the compact between the United States and Montana would be violated, and that the state 'reserves all usual rights and remedies under historic contract law' should that occur.'


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