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It's time to take the democratic party back!
No more free pass for the Democrats. Join R-68, Troops Out Now Coaltion!, Code Pink, Iraq Veterans Against the War, F.I.S.T. (Fighting Imperialism Standing Together), and others organizations and individuals as we march to end all illegal imperialist occupations in Iraq, Palestine, Afghanistan, Puerto Rico, Haiti, Hawaii, North America, and others. The Dems have the power to put an end to the United States illegal colonizations and wars, but they will not without pressure from the people. Join us as we create that pressure and say
NO MORE! NOT IN OUR NAME! BRING THE TROOPS HOME NOW!
The March will begin at the Greek amphitheater in Civic Center Park and end on Speer Blvd in front of the non-union Pepsi Center.
It is time to take our democracy back from the floor of the democratic convention!
Hillary Clinton supporters tossed out of Rules & Bylaws Committee meeting by DNC political bosses who are afraid of old ladies:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH92E5vWrjk
www.youtube.com/watch?v=KACQuZVAE3s
www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYzzyctEVcs
www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9lcCIWiqsA
Take it to the credentials committee.
Anyone here actually remember what happened in 1968? Why would you want to do that again? Oh, that's right! We elected Richard Nixon, the 'conservative' left-handed wingnuts hate to love, but love they do!
Quoting the Wikipedia:
'Although often viewed as a conservative by his contemporaries, Nixon's domestic policies often appear centrist, or even liberal, to later observers. As President, Nixon imposed wage and price controls, indexed Social Security for inflation, and created Supplemental Security Income (SSI). The number of pages added to the Federal Register each year doubled under Nixon. He eradicated the last remnants of the gold standard, created the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA), promoted the Legacy of parks program and implemented the Philadelphia Plan, the first significant federal affirmative action program, and dramatically improved salaries for US federal employees worldwide. In the wake of racial tensions that had sometimes erupted into urban violence before he assumed the Presidency, Nixon's policy on race relations and civil rights was perceived to be influenced by a doctrine commonly referred to as 'benign neglect.' As a party leader, Nixon helped build the Republican Party (GOP), but he ran his 1972 campaign separately from the party, which perhaps helped the GOP escape some of the damage from Watergate. The Nixon White House was the first to organize a daily press event and daily message for the media, a practice that all subsequent staffs have performed.
Nixon is credited with creating the modern day Imperial Presidency, in which the presidency retains a high level of control over government policy and decisions. In the early 1970s, Nixon impounded billions of dollars in federal spending and expanded the power of the Office of Management and Budget. These encroachments on the power of Congress led to the passage of the Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974.
On January 2, 1974, Nixon signed a bill that lowered the maximum U.S. speed limit to 55 miles per hour (90 km/h) in order to conserve gasoline during the 1973 energy crisis. This law remained in effect until 1995, though states had been allowed to raise the limit to 65 miles per hour in rural areas since 1987.
Committed to wide-ranging bureaucratic reforms, in a last-minute bid to save his presidency, Nixon signed a significant reform of the federal budgeting process and granted wide authority to Congress in shaping the final budget.'
How about that! It's deja vu all over again!
George McGoveren?
Nope. It really is what happened, SP4. It went down just that way and it is going that way again only this time it is John McCain. Richard Nixon was the 'anti-communist' the leftwingers hated to love, but they had to love him because he did nearly everything they wanted.
John McCain, if you will notice, is adopting the same tactics that Nixon adopted to win in 68.
Something I neglected to mention. There were a lot of us who had no liking or trust for Richard Nixon, but we voted for him anyway out of party loyalty. I ain't goin' for that one a second time.
..but Nixon was NEVER a real Conservative, outside of his anticommunist stance, and never even billed himself as such. All those things you list were simply the result of him being a man of his time. He DID fund every one of Johnsons Great Society messes. He DID run a liberal budget process. Fact is, no one knew any different. They were all still stuck in 1933. FDR defined federal governments role until 1980.
Do it again? Maybe. The repubs have not done well with this kind of candidate since Reagan. Bush 1 got put out asap. Were the dems to have run credible candidates the last two times, they should have trounced Bush, but they are getting such weak sisters it's almost hard to believe. Gore, that talking head, and Kerry 'if I only had an original thought' typlify Senators running for office. They come from a comfortable billet, where they can say what they want and no one back home hears them, and have bomb-proof incumbancy.
They get out on the national stage, try, like Hillary and Obama, to pass off the worst kind of lies and move like Obama's Preacher, his 'uncles' liberation of Auswitz or Hillary's Mr. Penn fiasco, the sniper thing, and then get caught red-handed for what was, before, SOP in the Senate.
Deja Vu
Fact is, Hillary and Obama are getting all the press and McCain is in New Zealand. While laudible, I do not think there are too many republican voters there. If this is old Johnny's methods at work, I think he is in real trouble.
MCCain knows he has to got to the right, and I suspect his senate constituancy would not let him, like it will on the national stage. Nonetheless, he's no Will Buckley conservative, and I have very limited interest in an Arnold Swarzehekker, republican. Nonetheless, this is what is coming our way. I had to hold my nose to vote for Bush and now we have this guy.
This might be a good one. It'll be interesting to see where it goes. I'd be pleased with whatever comes along if we can just have a spirited, meaningful debate.
'Something I neglected to mention. There were a lot of us who had no liking or trust for Richard Nixon, but we voted for him anyway out of party loyalty. I ain't goin' for that one a second time.'
So by your incredibly flawed to the point of stupid hissy fit logic, you should have voted for Hubert Humphrey?
You are thinking of the wrong election by the way, George McGovern is more your speed.
RE:'You are thinking of the wrong election by the way, George McGovern is more your speed.'
That one was wet-noodle lame, Bubba. You know as well as I do that poor old Georgie never had chance at getting nominated. Obama, now, there's a differnt beast.He IS gonna get nominated.
I think that's a great thing. So should, you.
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