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'I am sure you do not want to mislead so full lets have full disclosure:'
I told you before, phone polls that are automated and require the person being polled to sit there and press buttons favor the unemployed, Obamas core constituency. And the ABC/Wash post poll has a sampling rate that favors Democrats by 14%. You can write off CBS and PPP while we are at it.
Rasmussen and Gallup have been the closest to actual results during this campaign. Regardless, the 2 latest polls have McCain ahead.
''So now you are losing,''
No, look at the date, idiot.
'Doesn't look like it to me.'
Add a calender to all the concepts that have escaped you.
'I love it that you consider the two polls that show Bush III leading are The 2 polls that count'.'
Again, something that has been previously explained to you.
'Thank you for proving my point that you only tell half the truth, thus a very big liar.'
So, by your own admission the latest polls have McCain ahead, yet somehow I am a liar? Yeah, you are divorced from reality.... Add that to the list of things that has walked out in disgust.
'Again, looks like it to me liar.'
Look clown, 05/12 - 05/16 and 05/13 - 05/16 come AFTER 05/08 - 05/12.. Wrap your head around that...
Naaah, just make an ass out of yourself by calling me a 'liar' over and over when you are even citing the evidence to the contrary. Nut.
' the 'myth' is that McCain (Bush III) will win the election through the electoral college. '
So are you trying to argue that Obama (Carter II) can win states like Texas, Ohio and Pennsylvania? He couldn't even beat Hillary. The Democrats have basically told Florida to go screw itself. Nope, you have nothing going on there as well.
'Blah, blah, blah. '
A perfect summation of your analytical abilities.
'When it ends, either in 2009 or 2019, it will all fall apart '
Like Germany, Japan and the Philippines did.
'the dead american[sic] troops will have been wasted on an idealistic mistake by the worst administration in the history of the country--'
Carter isn't involved in this.
'Again liar, charged with?'
J' Accuse.
' could accuse Mr. McCain with taking money in the Keating S&L scandle, '
You would be the first. The special investigator told the Senate Ethics Committee to not pursue charges against McCain because there was 'no evidence' against him.
Obama isn't even denying it, he says it is OK because he gave SOME of the money back. The world doesn't work that way.
'Bah, blah, blah.'
LOL, not exactly a rebuttal, now is it?
'Please stand and salute the next President of the United States, Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.'
I know you like to think of me as a little tin plated soldier, cankles, but by days of being told who to salute are o-v-e-r.
'Blah, blah, blah, god you get tiring'
Not exactly a rebuttal, now is it?
'You have yet to give anything of substance.'
What about this: The Los Angeles Times, in an article dated April 27, 2008 reveals
that Obama received a $8,000 a month retainer from Robert Blackwell
for his technology firm, Electronic Knowledge Interchange,
for a total of $112,000. The following exerpts are from the LA times
article:
“A few months after receiving his final payment from EKI, Obama sent a request on state Senate letterhead urging Illinois officials to provide a $50,000 tourism promotion grant to another Blackwell company, Killerspin.”
“With support from Obama, other state officials and an Obama aide who went to work part time for Killerspin, the company eventually obtained $320,000 in state grants between 2002 and 2004 to subsidize its tournaments.”
“But Obama portrays himself as a lawmaker dedicated to transparency and sensitive to even the appearance of a conflict of interest.”
“Killerspin’s owner, Blackwell, was a political supporter and friend as well. Both men lived on Chicago’s South Side. Blackwell, a savvy and successful entrepreneur, was one of the first donors to Obama’s early campaigns, including the state senator’s failed bid for a congressional seat in 2000. In the presidential race he is credited on Obama’s website with committing to raise $100,000 to $200,000 for Obama’s campaign.”
LOOK AT THE VOLUME OF THESE COMPLAINTS, THESE DIRTY DEALINGS. EVEN THE CLINTON'S WEREN'T THIS DIRTY BEFORE THEY ENTERED POLITICS AND THAT IS SAYING SOMETHING.
All this is going to bust open big.
:-D
I have not said anything about this before, but a grown man who is known by :-D is very creepy. You must be a real 'load' to use that as your moniker.
'I told you before, phone polls that are automated and require the person being polled to sit there and press buttons favor the unemployed, Obamas core constituency. And the ABC/Wash post poll has a sampling rate that favors Democrats by 14%. You can write off CBS and PPP while we are at it.
Rasmussen and Gallup have been the closest to actual results during this campaign. Regardless, the 2 latest polls have McCain ahead.'
Just because you wingnuts in the right wing spew this misinformation does not make it so. I like the world you live in, discount it because you do not believe it or because it does not show your boy to be winning.
'No, look at the date, idiot.'
So when a couple of the polls show Obama ahead and the remaining show McCain winning, you will agree Obama is ahead---liar!
'Add a calender to all the concepts that have escaped you.'
And add this lie to the comp book full of lies you tell!
'Again, something that has been previously explained to you. '
Let's reword that. 'Again, something that has been lied about to you'. Now that's better.
'So, by your own admission the latest polls have McCain ahead, yet somehow I am a liar? Yeah, you are divorced from reality.... Add that to the list of things that has walked out in disgust.'
No, so you don't lie about my comments. What I pointed out to your pointed head, of the 5 polls Obama is shown to be ahead in 3 of the 5 (to most a majority), but the RCP Average shows Obama +3%. Now for a neo-con tinfoil headed creep like you that may not be 'the majority' but to a real American (someone that really understands what and how a democracy works) that would be considered to be a majority.
'Look clown, 05/12 - 05/16 and 05/13 - 05/16 come AFTER 05/08 - 05/12.. Wrap your head around that...'
Look liar, you are wrong! Wrap your multiple personalities around that.
'Naaah, just make an ass out of yourself by calling me a 'liar' over and over when you are even citing the evidence to the contrary. Nut.'
The truth hurts! You are the one that 'cites evidence to the contrary' not me.
'So are you trying to argue that Obama (Carter II) can win states like Texas, Ohio and Pennsylvania? He couldn't even beat Hillary. The Democrats have basically told Florida to go screw itself. Nope, you have nothing going on there as well.'
Yes, the democrats will win Ohio, Pennsylvania and probably Florida. Dream on, your old man is not going to have the legs to pull those away.
'Like Germany, Japan and the Philippines did.'
We have had this discussion before---apples and oranges. To compare these shows your bias, the people of Iraq have completely different cultures than any of these three countries.
'Carter isn't involved in this.'
That's fopr sure, even he was smart enough to not invade a country for nothing.
'You would be the first. The special investigator told the Senate Ethics Committee to not pursue charges against McCain because there was 'no evidence' against him.'
I would not be the first. Remember where I live, it is talked about all the time around here and a lot of folks know what really happened. But as I said I could use this unfairly, as you do for Obama.
'Obama isn't even denying it, he says it is OK because he gave SOME of the money back. The world doesn't work that way.'
Well lets see some charges and then you can spout off your mouth without lying.
'I know you like to think of me as a little tin plated soldier, cankles, but by days of being told who to salute are o-v-e-r.'
I am sorry if I misrepresented my thoughts in your regard. I do not evey give you that much credit 'little tim plated soldier'. Anyone who comes on this board and rants, raves, calls people names, does not consider what others say, stamps their feet and is the biggest liar on the board does not deserve that much credit. You are what is wrong with this country neo-con nut-ball.
SO WHAT! Give me some legal charges, minor convictions????This is the same crap that can be said about Halliburton, the oil companies,etc against your boys---nothing concrete you nutball!
'All this is going to bust open big.'
When something concrete comes around, get back to me!
':-D'
As I said before, very creepy.
My, how they bristle when you point out Obama's true business connections.... Rezko, or Wright, or Big Coal....
You have to understand, we in the republican party live with all the Halliburton, Big Oil, myths daily and have gotten used to hearing this from the libnazi press machine.
Libnazi's, on the other hand, just go bugsh-t when they see their saints defiled by the Republican infidels.
Let's recap some of these:
Big Oil - The Clinton admin greenlighting EVERY oil merger in the 1990's.
- Sandy Berglar selling influence for the Clintons to AMOCO while actually holding stock in the company.
Enron - Donations to Clinton/DNC for legislation
AT&T - DNC donations to the Clintons while pending legal action was afoot in several states and legislation was pending
Boeing - DNC bundles for Chinese MFN legislation during the Clinton years.
Obama - favorable legilation to the Coal consortium for favorable legislation, masquerading as 'clean coal'. Is that anything like 'Green oil'?
Obama - favorable pricing on a personal home by Mr. Rezko at below-market pricing.
Well let it burn, I always say!
'I have not said anything about this before, but a grown man who is known by :-D is very creepy.'
Who knows me by that?
:-D
'You must be a real 'load' to use that as your moniker.'
???? Not my moniker. I never said this before, but a woman who answers to 'cankles' must have an apartment that reeks of desperation and cat pee.
'Just because you wingnuts in the right wing spew this misinformation does not make it so.'
Come up with some evidence to the contrary..
'So when a couple of the polls show Obama ahead and the remaining show McCain winning, you will agree Obama is ahead-'
It depends on the polls, as I said, I have found ABC and CBS to be unreliable. I am not 'dismissing' information that I disagree with, I believe that there is a sampling error.
And add this lie to the comp book full of lies you tell!
Well, you have missed the whole 'this week' comes after 'last week' thing in your previous diatribe.
'Let's reword that. 'Again, something that has been lied about to you'. Now that's better.'
Where have I lied? You have never been able to come up with a lie yet you chronically shriek 'liar' when you have to read information you do not want to read. That is just infantile, calling everything you do not want to hear 'lies'. I believe I have pointed that out before as well.
'What I pointed out to your pointed head, of the 5 polls Obama is shown to be ahead in 3 of the 5'
There is that whole 'last week - this week' thing again. Whatever. McCain is ahead at the moment for what little it is worth, the election is far off and the democrats still haven't settled on a nominee. (Even though Barry is going to declare himself 'winner' after Oregon Ill bet)
'Now for a neo-con tinfoil headed creep like you that may not be 'the majority' but to a real American (someone that really understands what and how a democracy works) that would be considered to be a majority.']
Electoral college is what counts. Hillary arguably has the majority of the popular vote bu the superdelegates seem prepared to crown Barry... And you lecture about 'democracy'? Ass that to the list of things that you do not know what you are talking about.
'Look clown, 05/12 - 05/16 and 05/13 - 05/16 come AFTER 05/08 - 05/12.. Wrap your head around that...'
Look liar, you are wrong! Wrap your multiple personalities around that.'
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OK, in your little world 05/08 comes after 05/16... Why do I bother with such an irrational idiot?
Seriously, that was a good laugh.
''Naaah, just make an ass out of yourself by calling me a 'liar' over and over when you are even citing the evidence to the contrary. Nut.'
The truth hurts! You are the one that 'cites evidence to the contrary' not me.'
LOL!!
'We have had this discussion before---apples and oranges. '
And you made a fool out of yourself before.
'compare these shows your bias, the people of Iraq have completely different cultures than any of these three countries.'
The people of those 3 countries have different cultures from each other as well. To say that it is imposable to have democracy in the middle east is racist. Are you a racist? Well yes, you have demonstrated that here as well.
'That's fopr sure, even he was smart enough to not invade a country for nothing.'
Just capitulate to Iran and now appease Hamas terrorists.
'Remember where I live, it is talked about all the time around here and a lot of folks know what really happened.'
You live in a leftist echo chamber where this week comes before last week and everything you disagree with is a lie. You live in the only place an idiot like you could regard herself as 'educated' and you do it by slavishly adopting the opinion of your neighbor. You live where you hope to indoctrinate instead of educate... If what you told me has an inkling of truth, which I am starting to doubt. There really can't be an institution of 'higher learning' out there who could employ someone so scatterbrained and arrested, so, well, infantile in the way she guards her prejudices.
' You are what is wrong with this country neo-con nut-ball'
Yeah, you have shown liberal tolerance here before. I am what is wrong with the country? Coming from such a mixed up parasite I actually take that as a compliment. What next? Olbermann's worst person ever?
'When something concrete comes around, get back to me!'
You will just call it lies. You are a bit tedious that way. And every other way.
Almost forgot:
:-D
Looks like Obama is looking great in Oregon!
'Chas
Looks like Obama is looking great in Oregon!'
And Hillary is leading by double digits in Kentucky. I hope she takes it all the way to the convention... But then I hope they chose Barry.
Here, 'Chas' check out the very best idea since sliced bread:
www.recreate68.org
'Who knows me by that?'
Everyone, as they are laughing at your Obama obsession and how you try and lie about the man.
':-D'
Must be around 12 years old.
'???? Not my moniker. I never said this before, but a woman who answers to 'cankles' must have an apartment that reeks of desperation and cat pee.'
Cankles would bother me if I had cankles, but call me that it just shows your total lack of class. No cats, have a real life. Forgot to let you know I have 1117 graduating students this year to help spread the love of Obama (most of them anyway). Kind of mitigates anything you have going for-except your 1 vote.
'Come up with some evidence to the contrary.. '
I have but as per the conservative handbook you refuse to believe in anything but half truths and lies.
'It depends on the polls, as I said, I have found ABC and CBS to be unreliable. I am not 'dismissing' information that I disagree with, I believe that there is a sampling error. '
Nice, as I believe in 'sampling errors' in the two that show McCain (Bush III) winning.
'Well, you have missed the whole 'this week' comes after 'last week' thing in your previous diatribe.'
And you must have missed the part of your childhood that taught you not to lie---even if it improves your position.
'Where have I lied? You have never been able to come up with a lie yet you chronically shriek 'liar' when you have to read information you do not want to read. That is just infantile, calling everything you do not want to hear 'lies'. I believe I have pointed that out before as well.'
I have pointed that our numerous times, but living in your drug induced world you just refuse to listen. Tell the whole truth once in a while and maybe just maybe you will gain some self respect.
'There is that whole 'last week - this week' thing again. Whatever. McCain is ahead at the moment for what little it is worth, the election is far off and the democrats still haven't settled on a nominee. (Even though Barry is going to declare himself 'winner' after Oregon Ill bet)'
What is it about using all the facts (as they are reported at the same time) the whole truth, You seem to forget the whole truth again. That makes you a liar. We can declare the week of the conventioin and still beat your horse. He is coming unraveled and it is not even close to the election. Wait till we test that infamous temper and talk about his wife. plenty to talk about there, or his connections to some of the worst parts of the DC scene.
'Electoral college is what counts. Hillary arguably has the majority of the popular vote bu [sp] the superdelegates seem prepared to crown Barry... And you lecture about 'democracy'? Ass that to the list of things that you do not know what you are talking about.
Democracy will be shown in November when Mr. Obama is elected.
'Look clown, 05/12 - 05/16 and 05/13 - 05/16 come AFTER 05/08 - 05/12.. Wrap your head around that...'
See above tinfoil head.
'LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'
There's that 12 year old persona showing.
'LOL!!'
Ditto!
'And you made a fool out of yourself before.'
In your 12 year old mind.
'The people of those 3 countries have different cultures from each other as well. To say that it is imposable to have democracy in the middle east is racist. Are you a racist? Well yes, you have demonstrated that here as well. '
What an idiot.
'Just capitulate to Iran and now appease Hamas terrorists.'
And did not invade a country without cause, not loose over 4000 troops and 25000 wounded troops---for nothing that can be defined.
'You live in a leftist echo chamber where this week comes before last week and everything you disagree with is a lie. You live in the only place an idiot like you could regard herself as 'educated' and you do it by slavishly adopting the opinion of your neighbor. You live where you hope to indoctrinate instead of educate... If what you told me has an inkling of truth, which I am starting to doubt. There really can't be an institution of 'higher learning' out there who could employ someone so scatterbrained and arrested, so, well, infantile in the way she guards her prejudices.'
Says you. You are the joke of the board with your LOL and your :-D), 12 year old statements.
'Yeah, you have shown liberal tolerance here before. I am what is wrong with the country? Coming from such a mixed up parasite I actually take that as a compliment. What next? Olbermann's worst person ever?'
Can't you learn some different words, your Thesaurus lost. Parasite would bother people if you had not used it at least 1000 times on this board. Liar, it has no meaning and is not an insult except that it shows how infantile you really are. You are not good enough to be on Olbermann, nothing there interesting enough to call 'worst person ever'. But you can dream, everybody needs dreams.
'You will just call it lies. You are a bit tedious that way. And every other way.'
If you could figure out how to give proper disclosure, mention all the facts (I know I am stretching it some here), and give up with the stupid comments, then maybe (and I only said maybe here) you would have enough credibility so as not to be referred to as a liar---until then you have earned the title and I will continue to remind you of such.
'Almost forgot:
:-D '
And again thanks 12 year old.
Three prominent Democrats yesterday rejected Sen. Barack Obama's position of meeting unconditionally with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and leaders of other American enemies.
Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. of Delaware, former Sen. Gary Hart of Colorado and former Rep. Harold E. Ford Jr. of Tennessee distanced themselves from Mr. Obama's position, each saying that preconditions for any such meeting would be essential.
'I'll concede, you cannot meet with foreign leaders — with terrorists, rather, those that lead rogue nations — without some conditions,' Mr. Ford said on NBC's 'Meet the Press.'
Mr. Obama was asked in a Democratic debate in July whether he would 'be willing to meet separately, without precondition ... with the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea.'
'I would,' Mr. Obama said.
'Everyone, as they are laughing at your Obama obsession and how you try and lie about the man.'
And 'everyone' made you their spokesperson. Must be because you are so articulate. Where have I lied?
'Must be around 12 years old.'
:-D
'Cankles would bother me if I had cankles'
Ok, how about: Narcissistic, spoiled child with a delusional sense of superiority with a lack of imagination and a degree that was bought by daddies money in something that an imagination is critical and who has yet to compose a rational or effective rebuttal who is lousy at her job because she is using it to indoctrinate rather then teach which is probably just as well due to that whole 'imagination' and independent thought thing? Or, Band-wagon hopping lemming who 'feels' rather then 'rationally examines' and who has the audacity to think herself 'enlightened' for gravitating to the 'failed out of the real world' echo chamber that you inhabit? If that doesn't work we could go with: Unbelievable hypocrite who paradoxically likes to thinks of herself as 'liberal' but has more small minded prejudices then the most bigoted bigot there is? Hypocritical, intolerant, sexist, racist, idiot who fancies herself to be a defender of the downtrodden and 'educator' of those who have come to different conclusions other then the way that she demands that they should? Nut? Harpie? Shrill half-whit? Insecurity poster child? Incompetent? People-driver-awayer?
Why not just stick with 'Cankles'.
'Forgot to let you know I have 1117 graduating students this year to help spread the love of Obama (most of them anyway).'
Indeed, as you have stated.
''I guess all herds need someone to lead, I am there.''
I believe my retort was:
(on the off chance you are not lying) You are stealing from them. You are taking time away options when you should be adding them. You are violating a trust and stunting their growth to produce the result that YOU want.
Hopefully there are some real professors there who are in it to help each student reach the limit of his or her potential instead of stunting them to create another loser in your image. Those professors are the ones they will remember fondly all their lives. You will just be added to the list of emotional cripples left at the side of the road.
By the way, I flat out do not believe you anymore. You have shown yourself to be incapable of keeping up your end of a rudimentary debate. You are just too irrational to be a college professor, even the campus joke at a 3rd rate community college.
'Kind of mitigates anything you have going for-except your 1 vote.'
You have no idea what I do. Time for one of these: :-D
'I have but as per the conservative handbook you refuse to believe in anything but half truths and lies.'
No you have not, and shockingly enough, that was an infantile response.
'Nice, as I believe in 'sampling errors' in the two that show McCain (Bush III) winning'
You believe in a lot of things with out any examination, thought or evidence, why stop with statistics?
'
And you must have missed the part of your childhood that taught you not to lie---even if it improves your position.'
So you don't remember this:
'Look clown, 05/12 - 05/16 and 05/13 - 05/16 come AFTER 05/08 - 05/12.. Wrap your head around that...'
Look liar, you are wrong! Wrap your multiple personalities around that.''
Is quoting your own stupidity somehow a lie?
'I have pointed that our numerous times, but living in your drug induced world you just refuse to listen. '
So I am on drugs? So you have pointed out a lie that I have made? Those are 2 lies.
'Tell the whole truth once in a while and maybe just maybe you will gain some self respect.'
I have self respect. Here is a clue, liar: Self respect comes from accomplishment. That is probably why you are so needy.
'What is it about using all the facts (as they are reported at the same time) the whole truth,'
By the facts that YOU reported, McCain is ahead in the polls! (Not that that even matters at this point since you FAILED to understand the electoral college argument. You called it a myth But 'Jesus land' is going to carry the day for Mac in a big way.) Albeit within the margin of error in an election that is months away, but you are incorrect nonetheless.
'You seem to forget the whole truth again. That makes you a liar.'
The whole truth is that this weeks polls have McCain up, the whole truth is that you don't seem to understand the difference between 'this week' and 'last week' as you called me a 'liar' when I wrote that this week comes after last week. You did that because you are retarded and the only thing you can say in the face of something you do not want to hear or understand is; 'liar', like a 2 year old.
' We can declare the week of the conventioin and still beat your horse. '
At this rate your theory is going to be put to the test. Time again: :-D
'He is coming unraveled and it is not even close to the election.'
LOL, your child thinks there are 57 states in the union and wants to negotiate with the mullahs... He unravels more on a daily basis.
'Wait till we test that infamous temper and talk about his wife'
Your pompous brat just whined that people weren't being nice enough to his lovely America hating, influence peddling spouse. Just warming up.
'Democracy will be shown in November when Mr. Obama is elected.'
Again, that wasn't a rebuttal, that was a slogan. All that you are capable of apparently. And you want me to believe you are a professor? I don't think a college would have you dishing out sloppy joes, Cankles.
''Look clown, 05/12 - 05/16 and 05/13 - 05/16 come AFTER 05/08 - 05/12.. Wrap your head around that...'
See above tinfoil head.'
I did, you called me a liar and told me I was incorrect. You evidentially believe that 05/08 comes after 05/16. That is not even close to your most irrational here. And it is 'tin foil hat wearing' not 'tin foil head' you idiot.
'In your 12 year old mind.'
I thought I was an 'old man'? I do wish you would make up your mind.
'What an idiot.'
Lol, not really a rebuttal was that?
'And did not invade a country without cause, '
He wasn't in congress. He was in the state legislature voting 'present'.
'Says you.'
Pretty mature, a very devastating counterargument as well...
'You are the joke of the board'
According to... The irrational lying tantrum thrower who cannot, for all her education come up with an intelligent counterargument for the 'joke'? Who is the funnier joke, the joke or the joke who can't keep up with the joke?
'Can't you learn some different words, your Thesaurus lost. '
Here is a new one for you: Punctuation.
'Parasite would bother people if you had not used it at least 1000 times on this board.'
I know, you think the world owes you safety, a living, complete agreement and deference. In your narcissistic mind there is nothing wrong in 'looking down' on our military, they all owe you their lives. There is nothing wrong in disparaging your country, the world owes you... Whelp, no, it doesn't work that way, you are an ungrateful parasite.
'Liar,'
'Liar' would bother people if you had not used it at least 100000 times on this board. It would bother me if you could demonstrate an instance of me lying. You can't, so it doesn't.
'Olbermann, nothing there interesting enough to call 'worst person ever'.'
How do you know? Time for one of these again: :-D
'If you could figure out how to give proper disclosure, '
I cite references, you simply use the word 'liar'.
' mention all the facts (I know I am stretching it some here)'
You are stretching your Lane Bryant poly-blend cankle covers as well no doubt.
'and give up with the stupid comments'
We tried Mr.Nice, and you still couldn't come up with a reasoned counterargument.
'you would have enough credibility so as not to be referred to as a liar'
You seem to think that it wounds me somehow at this point. It is beyond pathetic, actually. Disproving something I have said is one thing, throwing a tantrum and calling it all lies is just, well, infantile.
'until then you have earned the title and I will continue to remind you of such.'
OK, Bigot, racist, homophobic, sexist, idiot, parasite, narcissist,liar (titles you have earned)... I will just demonstrate that it is you who are lying.
'And again thanks 12 year old.'
Puts me about a decade ahead of your terrible twos..
A muslime sympathiser and terrorist appeaser in the White House..??
Look at the state of Europe and the UK now from appeasing soft pussy policies, what a mess.
I can not believe this muslime has even got this far in the US polital scene..
You need tough people to run the world now a days and not the soft touch left wing appeasing clown squad.
What a disgrace it will be if this freak actually does get in.
I'd dare say there will be a few voters saying, Oh oh, why did i vote for this donkey boy.
What happened, maybe you left some of the truth out????
National poll shows Obama leading McCain
Posted by Foon Rhee, deputy national political editor May 21, 2008 12:48 PM
As Barack Obama closes in on the Democratic nomination, his prospects for November are looking up, a new poll indicates.
Obama, who was tied with presumptive Republican nominee John McCain last month in the same survey, now leads 48 percent to 40 percent, according to the Reuters/Zogby poll released today.
Obama builds his lead among independents -- 47 percent to 35 percent -- and also has an edge in who voters say would be better for the economy.
Despite losing four of the last six primaries over the last month to Hillary Clinton, Obama also leads McCain among some groups he has been losing to Clinton: Catholics, Jews, union households, and voters making less than $35,000 a year.
'Clearly voters are looking for change. Every problem Obama has had in consolidating his base and reaching to the center, John McCain has the same sort of problem,' pollster John Zogby told Reuters.
'It's McCain's lead among voters over the age of 65 that is keeping him within shouting distance of Obama,' he said.
The poll was conducted Thursday through Sunday and has a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.
Oh, I forgot if you don't believe it, it can't be so!
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