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Meanwhile latest polls revealed that both Obama and Clinton will win from McCain,whoever gets elected .Furthermore,60+ percent of the democrats don't want Hillary to quit the race .Hell,even 42 percent of Obama supporters don't want her to quit !It indicate a high level of maturity in my eyes,demonstrating that in the end it will be the political program that prevails,not the silly ranting about supposed personal qualities.I suggest that those republicans only concerned with such fine understanding of moral values concentrate their efforts in posting underneath articles more adequate to their level of understanding,is there nothing concerning Paris Hilton,more suitable for their thinking patterns ?
'Meanwhile latest polls revealed that both Obama and Clinton will win from McCain,whoever gets elected'
Well, no, they do not all agree on that. Regardless we are a year away from the election you euro-chimp.
'It indicate a high level of maturity in my eyes,demonstrating that in the end it will be the political program that prevails,not the silly ranting about supposed personal qualities.'
I am so happy we could live up to your expectations... now go fix your own mess of a society.
Let me guess,above poster isaneocon republican ?Well thenhefindshimself at oddswith the majority of the US population.Meanwhile I'll gladly concentrat on my own mess,except,there is none ...
I'd rather not get involved in the silly games played by politicians to oppose flemish and walloons .Andwhat exactly is a europarasyte .Feel free to share your deepest thoughts with usall.debate is an absolute necessity in democracy:as some french philosopher used to say 'du choc des idées jaillit l 'etincelle ' ,Insults however only stand for lack of arguments replaced by ranting .
After first denying that Hamas supports him and attacking John McCain for bringing it up, Barack Obama now says he understands why Hamas supports him:
Barack Obama says he understood why a top Hamas adviser voiced support for his presidential bid.
“It’s conceivable that there are those in the Arab world who say to themselves, ‘This is a guy who spent some time in the Muslim world, has a middle name of Hussein and appears more worldly and has called for talks with people, and so he’s not going to be engaging in the same sort of cowboy diplomacy as George Bush,’” Obama said in an interview with The Atlantic.
“That’s a perfectly legitimate perception as long as they’re not confused about my unyielding support for Israel’s security,” Obama said.
Spending some 'time in the Muslim world' means that you get the endorsement from islamist terrorists? No, they want Obama because he is the weaker candidate and they are afraid of the alternative.
'Let me guess,above poster isaneocon republican ?'
Registered independent. You are wrong again tonny. Besides, you clown, 'popularity' doesn't mean 'right' or 'wrong'.
'Meanwhile I'll gladly concentrat on my own mess,except,there is none ...'
I have been to your country, yes, you have a mess on your hands. Out of control immigration filling the slums with people who hate everything Belgium used to stand for, (Is that how you arrived?) a 'government' that took the better part of a year to form and is now at risk of dissolving again, nitwits who want to foist their language off on each other, complete irrelevance on the world stage, abdication of your sovereignty to the EU... Shall I go on? Yes, you have a hell of a nerve sitting in judgment of anyone else from the mess that you inhabit.
'I'd rather not get involved in the silly games played by politicians to oppose flemish and walloons'
I can appreciate how boring you find your own country in comparison to mine (a bunch of snotty, chocolate obsessed half-monkeys with delusions of importance) but the fact remains: you do not get a vote here, you do there.
'Andwhat exactly is a europarasyte'
Someone who likes to sit back in judgment on the USA in the peace and relative prosperity that American sacrifice has bought for you. I am the 4th generation in my family to be dragged off to fight in europe. When have you lifted a finger to do anything other then collaborate?
''du choc des idées jaillit l 'etincelle ''
There is nothing new or shocking, your 'ideas' are simply the regurgitated socialist tripe that periodically gets regurgitated by arrested adolescent Trotskyites who refuse to acknowledge that it simply does not work.
When simple-minded people can't get along or agree how can a government do any better? There has been so much muck raking done on all three candidates, if anyone believes half of these experts, everyone would boycott the election!
Abridged:
Obama Rules
The campaign wants to define his weaknesses as off-limits, and the media is signing up for the effort.
By Rich Lowry
If Barack Obama gets his way, the Oxford English Dictionary will have updated its definition of “distraction” by the end of the campaign: “Diversion of the mind, attention, etc., from any object or course that tends to advance the political interests of Barack Obama.”
After his blowout win in North Carolina last week, Obama turned to framing the rules of the general election ahead, warning in his victory speech of “efforts to distract us.” The chief distracter happens to be the man standing between Obama and the White House, John McCain, who will “use the very same playbook that his side has used time after time in election after election.”
Ah, yes, the famous distractions with which Republicans fool unwitting Americans. Ronald Reagan distracted them with the Iranian hostage crisis, high inflation and unemployment, gas lines, and the loss of American prestige abroad. Then, the first George Bush distracted them with the notion of a third Reagan term, as well as the issues of taxes, crime, and volunteerism. After a brief interlude of national focus during two Clinton terms, another Bush arrived wielding the dark art of distraction.
Forget “bitter”; Obama must believe that most Americans suffer from an attention-deficit disorder so crippling that they can’t concentrate on their own interests or values.
Obama has an acute self-interest in so diagnosing the American electorate. His campaign knows he’s vulnerable to the charge of being an elitist liberal. Unable to argue the facts, it wants to argue the law — defining his weaknesses as off-limits.
The campaign can succeed in imposing these rules on the race only if the news media cooperate. Newsweek signed up for the effort in a cover story that reads like a 3,400-word elaboration of the “distraction” passage of Obama’s victory speech. “The Republican Party has been successfully scaring voters since 1968,” it says, through “innuendo and code.” McCain “may not be able to resist casting doubt on Obama’s patriotism,” and there’s a question whether he can or wants to “rein in the merchants of slime and sellers of hate.”
Here are the Obama rules in detail: He can’t be called a “liberal” (“the same names and labels they pin on everyone,” as Obama puts it); his toughness on the war on terror can’t be questioned (“attempts to play on our fears”); his extreme positions on social issues can’t be exposed (“the same efforts to distract us from the issues that affect our lives” and “turn us against each other”); and his Chicago background too is off-limits (“pouncing on every gaffe and association and fake controversy”). Besides that, it should be a freewheeling and spirited campaign.
Democrats always want cultural issues not to matter because they are on the least-popular side of many of them, and want patriotic symbols like the Pledge of Allegiance and flag pins to be irrelevant when they can’t manage to nominate presidential candidates who wholeheartedly embrace them (which shouldn’t be that difficult). As for “fear” and “division,” they are vaporous pejoratives that can be applied to any warning of negative consequences of a given policy or any political position that doesn’t command 100 percent assent. In his North Carolina speech, Obama said the Iraq war “has not made us safer,” and that McCain’s ideas are “out of touch” with “American values.” How fearfully divisive.
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' and the Stumble-bums are here again '
' so lets sing a song of cheer again '
' HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN '
The DUMBECRATICS are on the rampage again, wasting everybody's time.
President-in-waiting Johnny is probably lounging back on his padded sofa, smoking a huge Havana cigar, which he stubs out repeatedly in his Bill Clinton ash tray and spilling his champagne laughing at these two crackpots biting each others ankles.
Tonny, vous etres un arsehole, vous assoyant en Belgique faisant jaillir vos dechets aux Americains.
Quittez-le a SP4 et occupez de vos propres affaires en Europe.
are out in force today. Get out of mommy's basement, boys. Get an education. Get a job. Get a frickin life.
Why is it that the world focuses on our elections and no one cares about yours?
Get a life yourself.
Great fun in kindergarten today.Who thinks I attack the USA.Does Bush stand for the americanvalues ?I think not .So I plead not guilty.
Asfor the guy pretending to have lived in Belgium.Hard to believe of course.It is very easy to find point of views of americanexpatsin Belgium with google .Generaly they have amorecomplex point of view.
Here is one
www.expatinterviews.com/belgium/sarah-steegar.html
Not howhealth care isdescribedcompletely different from what neocons at home are telling you.
I(ve had many american friends here,I'm not anennemy of your country,just the neocon idiots pretending they rule the world.They won't ...
By the way,now that I have some attention,is there realy somebody claiming there is more than just unfounded alergations and repulsive smear tactics in the post pretending Obama is 'the candidateof Hamas' .What kind of human being is using that kind of arguments .Somebody fromthe republican dirty trick department .Will you guys be confronted woth a six month campaign trying to persuade you that Obama is a tool of muslimt errorists ? Well,see it happen for the next six months and wonder of that is the proper way of debating .Perhapstime to bury the past and concentrate on the real issues of politicsand governance:health care,education,climate change .How come the dirty trickdepartment hasnothing to say on that ?Lackof program ?
'Why is it that the world focuses on our elections'
We aint fo-cussing on your erections. We be laffin at all you uneddikated morons frum amerika, mon. This be more fun than watching the yankee tourist gridlock down at the spliff store.
'Great fun in kindergarten today'
This is a forum about US politics, not about what you did with your afternoon.
'I think not .So I plead not guilty.'
You ABSOLUTELY do not know the first thing about us, seriously, you would be funny if you weren't such a sanctimonious idiot.
'Asfor the guy pretending to have lived in Belgium.Hard to believe of course.'
I have never 'lived' there as in a primary residence. Have you 'lived' in the USA?
'It is very easy to find point of views of americanexpatsin Belgium with google '
All 3 of them.
'Not howhealth care isdescribedcompletely different from what neocons at home are telling you.'
I wouldn't trade.
'I'm not anennemy of your country'
You are a big mouthed blow hard who honestly hasn't the slightest idea what you are talking about. I would not trade the country I know for the country that I have seen that you claim as home. Indeed, my point stands: Clean up your own mess before you would presume to clean up ours.
'just the neocon idiots pretending they rule the world.They won't ...'
That is your insecurity speaking.
's there realy somebody claiming there is more than just unfounded alergations and repulsive smear tactics in the post pretending Obama is 'the candidateof Hamas' '
Again, you do not know hat you are talking about. It is not even in dispute any more here. Hamas endorsed obama and obama acknowledged it:
'On Sunday, Aaron Klein and John Batchelor interviewed Ahmed Yousef, chief political adviser to the Prime Minister of Hamas, on WABC radio. The interview produced a scoop which, for some reason, has not been widely publicized: Hamas has endorsed Barack Obama for President. Yousef said, 'We like Mr. Obama and we hope he will win the election.'
Here, from the NY daily news:
After first denying that Hamas supports him and attacking John McCain for bringing it up, Barack Obama now says he understands why Hamas supports him.
While maintaining an ironclad commitment to Israel’s security, Barack Obama says he understood why a top Hamas adviser voiced support for his presidential bid.
“It’s conceivable that there are those in the Arab world who say to themselves, ‘This is a guy who spent some time in the Muslim world, has a middle name of Hussein and appears more worldly and has called for talks with people...” Obama said in an interview with The Atlantic.
“That’s a perfectly legitimate perception as long as they’re not confused about my unyielding support for Israel’s security,” Obama said.
See tonny, you should learn what you are talking about before you make a fool out of yourself on the internet.
'@ :-D, the smiley faced a-holeMay 14th, 2008 - 00:34:41'
Grow up....
Thousands would differ with you. But you do appear to be one of those straight-laced, anal retentive republicans that think with their sphincters.
'Thousands would differ with you. '
Where are these thousands? In your mind? Your different personalities?
Face it, infantile tantrums are only amusing for a short time before they become tedious: You have become tedious.
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