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PLEASE somebody with a good knowledge of American politics, for the education of the rest of the world - could you explain ;-
WHY in a population of 300 million do we only hear of a Presidential squabble between a FEMALE - God help us all - a woman President, who is way over her sell-by date - the wife of a self confessed sex pervert and a black man ?
Is there not another single person out of those countless millions interested in becoming President ?
I would have thought that the mighty USA would have had at least 20 candidates battling fiercely to be Chief of the most powerful, free and by far the best place on earth.
To think of either one of these nobodies being President of the mighty USA makes me want to vomit. You may as well pick some bum off the street.
Puzzled. I am extremely well versed in this election, the candidates, and the American political system and I understand your confusion. I've seen this happen several times over the years and there is an answer; I only wish I had it. Let me know when you find out, OK??
when there are world problems to discuss, the news seems only concerned about Obama's preacher, Hillary's mistaken recall of events several years ago, etc.??????????
why didn't some of you people that are complaining run for president ,wouldn't be the first time someone that thought they could do better ran.
MY FELLOW 'BITTER', STUPID, WORKING CLASS PEOPLE :-)
If you think like Barack Obama, that WORKING CLASS PEOPLE are just a bunch of 'BITTER'!, STUPID, PEASANTS, Cash COWS!, and CANNON FODDER. :-(
You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you think Barack Obama with little or no experience would be better than Hillary Clinton with 35 years experience.
You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you think that Obama with no experience can fix an economy on the verge of collapse better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) led the greatest economic expansion, and prosperity in American history.
You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you think that Obama with no experience fighting for universal health care can get it for you better than Hillary Clinton. Who anticipated this current health care crisis back in 1993, and fought a pitched battle against overwhelming odds to get universal health care for all the American people.
You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you think that Obama with no experience can manage, and get us out of two wars better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) went to war only when he was convinced that he absolutely had to. Then completed the mission in record time against a nuclear power. AND DID NOT LOSE THE LIFE OF A SINGLE AMERICAN SOLDIER. NOT ONE!
You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you think that Obama with no experience saving the environment is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) left office with the greatest amount of environmental cleanup, and protections in American history.
You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you think that Obama with little or no education experience is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) made higher education affordable for every American. And created higher job demand and starting salary’s than they had ever been before or since.
You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you think that Obama with no experience will be better than Hillary Clinton who spent 8 years at the right hand of President Bill Clinton. Who is already on record as one of the greatest Presidents in American history.
You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you think that you can change the way Washington works with pretty speeches from Obama, rather than with the experience, and political expertise of two master politicians ON YOUR SIDE like Hillary and Bill Clinton..
You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you think all those Republicans voting for Obama in the Democratic primaries, and caucuses are doing so because they think he is a stronger Democratic candidate than Hillary Clinton. :-)
Best regards
jacksmith... Working Class :-)
p.s. You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you don't know that the huge amounts of money funding the Obama campaign to try and defeat Hillary Clinton is coming in from the insurance, and medical industry, that has been ripping you off, and killing you and your children. And denying you, and your loved ones the life saving medical care you needed. All just so they can make more huge immoral profits for them-selves off of your suffering...
You see, back in 1993 Hillary Clinton had the audacity, and nerve to try and get quality, affordable universal health care for everyone to prevent the suffering and needless deaths of hundreds of thousands of you each year. :-)
Approx. 100,000 of you die each year from medical accidents from a rush to profit by the insurance, and medical industry. Another 120,000 of you die each year from treatable illness that people in other developed countries don’t die from. And I could go on, and on...
OBAMA AIDE: 'WORKING-CLASS VOTERS NOT KEY FOR DEMOCRATS' :o
HILLARY CLINTON CAN BEST WIN IN NOVEMBER:
It's time for everyone to face the truth. Barack Obama has no real chance of winning the national election in November at this time. His crushing defeat in Pennsylvania makes that fact crystal clear. His best, and only real chance of winning in November is on a ticket with Hillary Clinton as her VP.
Hillary Clinton seemed almost somber at her Pennsylvania victory speech. As if part of her was hoping Obama could have proved he had some chance of winning against the republican attack machine, and their unlimited money, and resources.
But it is absolutely essential that the democrats take back the Whitehouse in November. America, and the American people are in a very desperate condition now. And the whole World has been doing all that they can to help keep us propped up.
Hillary Clinton say's that the heat, and decisions in the Whitehouse are much tougher than the ones on the campaign trail. But I think Mr. Obama faces a test of whether he has what it takes to be a commander and chief by facing the difficult facts, and the truth before him. And by doing what is best for the American people by dropping out of the race, and offering his whole hearted assistance to Hillary Clinton to help her take back the Whitehouse for the American people, and the World.
Mr. Obama is a great speaker. And I am confident he can explain to the American people the need, and wisdom of such a personal sacrifice for them. It should be clear to everyone by now that Hillary Clinton is fighting her heart out for the American people. She has known for a long time that Mr. Obama can not win this November. You have to remember that the Clinton's have won the Whitehouse twice before. They know what it takes.
If Mr. Obama fails his test of commander and chief we can only hope that Hillary Clinton can continue her heroic fight for the American people. And that she prevails. She will need all the continual support and help we can give her. She may fight like a superhuman. But she is only human.
Sen. Hillary Clinton: 'You know, more people have now voted for me than have voted for my opponent. In fact, I now have more votes than anybody has ever had in a primary contest for a nomination. And it's also clear that we've got nine more important contests to go.'
Sincerely
Jacksmith... Working Class :-)
Your kindergarten education has worked perfectly - YES we are all STUPID IDIOTS and take it as a compliment that a world expert like yourself acknowledges this.
I did not read your LONG boring waffle, I actually fell asleep trying to get past the first line - one big yawn, it hurt falling off my chair.
If EDUKATED people like you want either Hillary Clinton - a senile geriatric old woman and wife of a confessed sex pervert OR a naive black man Barack Obama as President of the greatest nation on earth, then I would recommend a head scan. Be quick and make an appointment, it may get worse.
With a population of over 300 million, if all the mighty US can come up with are these two relics, then GOD HELP AMERICA. You do NOT have to scrape the barrel.
It is a disgraceful insult to all those great leaders and Presidents you have had in the past to even put these bone heads up for consideration.
You say: 'You may as well pick some bum off the street.'
There are two possible replies to your plaint.
1) These candidates ARE bums off the street.
2) Bums are too smart to enter the cesspool of politics. They also have ethics and morals. No self-respacting bum would be caught dead in the Oval Orifice.
'I would have thought that the mighty USA would have had at least 20 candidates battling fiercely to be Chief of the most powerful, free and by far the best place on earth.'
We had over 20 candidates, many got weeded out. The democrats did what they do best: chose unelectable and unimaginable.
'To think of either one of these nobodies being President of the mighty USA makes me want to vomit.'
Same here, but don't worry; there won't be much left of either one of them for McCain to finish off.
if you read Jack Sprat!
McCain doesn't even enter the picture. He's an old, tired, worn-out political hack. I'd be very surprised if the stress of the upcoming election campaign didn't give him a heart attack. America doesn't need any more old men in the Presiduncy.
Let's all tell the truth for 5 seconds: Hillary is in her 60's. In other words, she's no spring chicken. Obama is young, and has the glaring lack of achievement to prove it.
The other fact that you had better accept: McCain is no GW Bush.
There will be no swift boats.
I think we can all agree that even CBS won't try to concoct another phony document scandal, although I would not put it past Mr. Moonvies.
McCain has THE record for coming to the middle for two decades. Hillary and Obama?
No record of this whatsoever.
No children, this is not GW Bush. You have a real centrist, with the record to prove it and a lifetime of serving this nation, on your hands. I can't wait.
All of you gave some lovely comments about my question.
I still do not understand why a party has many candidates to start with and then ends up with two imbecilic choices of an old woman who`s only claim to fame is that her husband used the Oval Office as a sexual convenience and a black man who has no claim to fame whatsoever, except he is black.
WHO weeds out all these candidates ? If by vote the people do, then how come decent minded Americans end up with two pieces of crap like these ?
What American in their right mind could possibly vote for embarrassing clowns like Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama ?
Do bad eggs always make their way to the top in America ?
I would have to ask the same question, and the answer is the sheeplike constituants that make the party up.
If you don't like the party you associate with, either change it or switch.
Changing it is hard. Switching is easy. Just look at the other party and ask why they do NOT have superdelegates, the nannycare that democrats require to run their party.
Now they may not pick any better candidates than the dems do, but they are picked democratically.
If the U.S. thinks Bush has embroiled them in senseless wars and getting them beholden bigtime to the Chinese, just wait and see how minor that is compared to what would happen under 'short fuse' McCain!
Thanks.
I am really interested in all this, because I consider the US as the most important country on earth and vital to all global civilisation.
SP4 seems a mature chap - I hope it is a chap, please SP4 can you tell me in a clear and precise nutshell the following ?
OK Fanny Clinton and Sunshine Lotion Obama have been slogging it out now for months and still are.
Just WHO IS in the race for President apart from these two embarrassing amateurs ?
Can you actually tell me who and how many ARE actually in the ring.
Just list me the names, there should not be too many.
Thanks again.
This election is vital to everybody on earth NOT just the Americans.
The last thing we want is some piece of useless incompetent crap in the Whitehouse.
OK, don`t say you`ve had a few of these dumbo`s already and leave poor old Ronnie out of it, we all know about him.
Are you for real? You appear to be a set-piece. In simple words, so that Republicans can understand, you appear to be SP4 using an alias to pose a question in order to set up another nonsensical response. Good God, man, to say 'SP4 seems a mature chap' is on the same level as calling GW Bush a card carrying Democrat. You say: 'The last thing we want is some piece of useless incompetent crap in the Whitehouse.' On that point I agree. We don't need Madman McCain in the Oval Office.
We don't want trigger happy Mc Cain pushing the red button during one of his hissy fits.
Let's review McCain:
He's met in the middle in some of the most arguable legislation in the last 10 years.
He's held the line on some of the worst spending, saving the taxpayer zillions of dollars.
He has rankled the dems and republicans equally over what are supposed to be republican positions, something NONE of the other candidates can EVER say, in either party.
He has met in the middle on numerous bills another thing NONE of the others can say.
In fact, as a republican, I'm going to have to really hold my nose in order to vote for him, but NONE of the other candidates even come close to his record of achievent. No TWO running have earned the right to run as much as John.
Now, your libnazi slime machine is floating the 'short Fuse' and the 'rich guy' routines so popular even though Hillary actually has more money than McCain!
Too bad, because this is not Bush you're dealing with. There will be no swift boats or phony docs for McCain. There will be no 'dumb ol John' not with his record of successes.
No, the dems will do the tried and true thing:
Abortion
fairness
catch him with the town bimbo
make sure we think he hates gays, blacks____insert here___whatever.
As for the chap above, I could give a rats ass what the rest of the world thinks about our candidates. Even Obama could outperform the best the rest of the world has to offer, on even a bad day. In fact, we'd be happy to send you the losers, for your own use! If you see Carter, for chrissakes offer him a job before he returns! Some of us are convinced he even WORKS for other governments anyways!
I write my own posts and sign them. Whats the use of not going on the record???
SP4
SPIdiot says: 'There will be no swift boats or phony docs for McCain.'
McCain was originally sent in as a ground support pilot. That means a mud mover, not a real-man fighter jock. However after dropping too many bombs on his own troops he was transfered to North Vietnam operations. The big boys figured he would be less dangerous to his own side, and if the bad guys got him, well just too bad. McCain also bailed out of five aircraft in his short carreer, including a training aircraft. This moron has cost the American tax payers more than he is worth. To crash a trainer, wow, that takes skill. I bet he got an air medal for that one, because he land it in the Admiral's bath.
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