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Ms. LindberghApr 10th, 2008 - 14:38:04

forgot something;

'My opinion is that we have to do exactly what we planned,' she told Deutsche Presse-Agentur dpa. 'The torch has to complete its international trip.'
(No matter how many lives it costs) After all it's all about sports and athletes trying to get away with using illegal performance enhancing drugs. Nothing more important than that.

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kenApr 10th, 2008 - 17:11:20

To most Americans, the Dalai Lama is a Buddhist monk who has been driven out of Tibet by the atheist Communist Party in China. Although he is injecting politics into Olympics, we decide to cut him a break.


Here are some facts to consider, because we have other values besides rooting for the underdog – if indeed the Dalai Lama is an underdog.

To Americans, Buddhism connotes a religion so spiritual that it tries to cleanse love in order to avoid being possessive. To the contrary, Tibetan Buddhism is a theocracy. Dalai Lama is supreme in both temporal and spiritual matters. That is, he was the ruler of Tibet, ruling over a serf society that had slaves.

To Americans, a monk conjures the image of a person living in harsh conditions while serving the poor and weak. Tibetan monks made up the privileged ruling class that lives on the backs of the serfs. So when they led protests, they could be looking to return to their old glory.

There are two Lamas in Tibetan Buddhism – Dalai Lama and Panchen Lama. Panchen Lama is also supreme in spiritual matters. China has always recognized Panchen Lama, though some claimed the selection of Panchen was manipulated by China.

So is Dalai Lama motivated by restoring Tibetan culture or his power? I’d say it’s primarily power, but perhaps both. So don’t blindly take his side.

Uninformed positions and erroneous perceptions will weaken the democratic movement in China and strengthen Chinese people’s suspicion of the Western world.

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SP4: NonethelessApr 11th, 2008 - 18:56:46

..the theme here is the totalitarian Marxist domination of the Tibetan people and not the politics of the Buddhist faith.

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not buying itApr 11th, 2008 - 22:30:21

Thanks for the chi-com propaganda Ken.

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SP4: That said...let's move on.Apr 12th, 2008 - 21:37:32

This torch thing is typical lazy-assed journalism. The template is:

'The torch passed through( insert town or city here) and (insert ethnic of type of people here) and they were upset about (insert whatever here) and then it was sent to (insert next town here) and (what the f--k) they will be sure to also be (pissed about something) there.'

Repeat for every goddam place on the frickin planet it goes to, make sure to slam the Chinese, and then repeat as many times as possible.

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RickApr 14th, 2008 - 23:54:05

The facade of Olympic values aside, meet the real China which has a clear agenda - 'expansionism' at all costs under the guise of peaceful liberation. Once a territory is gone, it's gone. There will be 1.3 billion brainwashed fools who will come here and defend war crimes of the CCP and brag about Xinhua as free press. If the West remains complacent, South-East, Australia, New Zealand, Pacific would be occupied or rather 'liberated' territories in a few decades. A $40 billion here and there, who cares, when the West can be played into giving away $1.5 trillion to the Chinese war machine.

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