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Prelude:
This list was compiled by an individual exhibiting traits of xenophobia, fascism, tendency for conspiracy theories and hatred of islam and muslims. However, it may be important to set the record straight so here is a preliminary response. Notably, the author manages more lies and misstatements in these 70 items than Obama apparently has in several decades.
1.) Selma Got Me Born - LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.
Conclusion: misstatement. It is unclear if Obama meant that the same spirit that lead to Selma but it is certainly not *literally* correct.
2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.
Conclusion: no lie. He started a goat-herder and through scholarship received a stipend to study in the U.S.
Importance in a President: unimportant.
3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - LIAR, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had
Conclusion: no lie. Obama's book is exceptionally fortright in its portrayal of his alcoholic, polygamist father. The author forgot to read it. This issue is
Importance in a President: unimportant.
4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - LIAR, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in decades.
Conclusion: no lie. The election was by no standard 'legitimate' (including the Dept. of State standards.) Odinga leads the opposition to the current government.
Importance in a President: unimportant.
5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - LIAR, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn’t allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man. Source: According to NYTimes story of April of last year, Sarah Hussein Obama told the New York Times she is a devout Muslim.
Conclusion: no lie. As most people understand, a person has TWO grandmothers. The author confuses Obama's U.S. and African-born grandmothers.
Importance in a President: unimportant.
6.) My Name is African Swahili - LIAR, your name is Arabic and ‘Baraka’ (from which Barack came) means ‘blessed’ in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.
Conclusion: no lie. Quotation is false. Obama said his name MEANS 'blessed one' in Swahili. 'Barack' is a Swahili word, and its roots are in Arabic.
Importance in a President: unimportant.
7.) I Never Practiced Islam - LIAR, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years,until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.
Conclusion: no lie. The 'facts' presented are false.
Importance in a President: unimportant.
8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - LIAR, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).
Conclusion: no lie. Quote is false, he said 'non-denominational.' And the school was named after that notable muslim Francisco of Assisi.. sheesh.
Importance in a President: unimportant.
9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - LIAR, not one teacher says you could speak the language.
Conclusion: no lie. Obama had trouble with the language in the first 6 months but picked it up and became fluent in it.
Importance in a President: unimportant.
10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience - LIAR, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn’t even speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.
Conclusion: no lie. Quotation is false. Obama said that his view of the world is different because of his childhood. Anyone with a similar experience, as well as psychologists and sociologists, can confirm this statement too.
Importance in a President: moderate.
11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - LIAR, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.
Conclusion: no lie. Whether Obama is stronger on foreign affairs is a judgement left for the reader to make but the author attempts to dispute this through an illogical means of quantifying where Obama has traveled (that list is also incomplete.)
Importance in a President: moderate.
12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - LIAR, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine.
Conclusion: no lie. Quote is false, that is not Obama's statement. It was a partial reason. Furthermore, the 'just fine' statement is from several years earlier and the author is assuredly not a psychoanalyst to make a determination on the cause.
Importance in a President: unimportant.
13.)An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - LIAR, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.
Conclusion: incorrect memory from childhood. Duplicate of #14.
14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - LIAR, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.
Conclusion: incorrect memory. The book recites a memory from his childhood. Several advertisements depicting the whitening creams that Obama described did appear in magazines at that time (and still do today.)
Importance in a President: completely unimportant.
15.) I Won’t Run On A National Ticket In ‘08 - LIAR, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.
Conclusion: semantics. Quotation is false: Obama said he had 'no plans' to run which is the standard cover used by politicians. In fact, out of all candidates in the primaries, every single one had stated this at one point--including Sen. Clinton and McCain.
Importance in a President: unimportant.
16.) Present Votes Are Common In Illinois - LIAR, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.
Conclusion: no lie. Present votes ARE common in Illinois, as has been explained by Illinois legislators, newspapers and researchers. Present votes are made strategically to help weaker representatives in your party--for example Planned Parenthood ASKED Obama to vote 'present' instead of 'no' on some abortion bills so that other Democratic State Senators would have cover.
Importance in a President: moderate.
17.) Oops, I Misvoted - LIAR, only when caught by church groups and democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.
Conclusion: undeterminable. Apparently the number of 'misvotes,' 4, is about average for the IL Senate. The vote cannot be changed so it is plausible that these votes were in fact accidental. They are against Obama's otherwise consistent voting record but it is of course impossible to verify either way.
Importance in a President: moderate.
18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - LIAR, you were a senior
lecturer ON LEAVE.
Conclusion: no lie. Obama was, according to UC, the school he taught in, a professor of law. It does not get any simpler than this, even if the academic titles seem confusing. Obama was also NOT on leave when he was teaching... he has been on leave since his election to U.S. Senate.
Importance in a President: Unimportant.
19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - LIAR, you were a senior
lecturer ON LEAVE.
Conclusion: no lie. A 'constitutional lawyer' is a 'lawyer' specialising in 'the constitution.' This description is accurate of Obama, a former president of the Harvard Law Review.
Importance in a President: moderate.
20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - LIAR, you didn’t write it,introduce it, change it, or create it.
Conclusion: no lie. Obama did, in fact, introduce the lobbying and ethics bills.
Importance in a President: moderate.
21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - LIAR, it took just 14 days from start to finish.
Conclusion: no lie. The full process actually took more than 14 days. However, if your opponent accuses you of getting bills passed TOO fast, you obviously do not have many vulnerabilities.
Importance in a President: moderate.
22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - LIAR, your bill was
rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation
- mainly because of your Nuclear Donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod
came.
Conclusion: no lie. Obama's original bill was much tougher but the Republicans required it toned down before it was allowed to pass (this was prior to 2006 takeover) in its final form--which still established new regulations which no-one else did.
Importance in a President: moderate.
23.) I Have Released My State Records - LIAR, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.
Conclusion: no lie. All IL Senate records are available through Illinois State.
Importance in a President: moderate.
24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - LIAR, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.
Conclusion: no lie, but imprecise. Obama can legitimately take credit for this but other people were involved also.
25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - LIAR, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.
Conclusion: no lie. Author confuses two entirely separate items in an attempt to make a point. Whether Obama's economic proposals will help America is impossible to say with certainty, but they are in line with progressive economic policy overall.
Importance in a President: moderate.
26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - LIAR, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.
Conclusion: no lie. The 'supporter' was actually a Republican state senator (and the article says so.) Whether Obama was a bold leader is a value judgement left for the reader.
Importance in a President: moderate.
27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - LIAR, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.
Conclusion: no lie. Unsubstantiated claim by author. Also, amusingly,
author contradicts his own point from item #36.
Importance in a President: moderate.
28.) No One Contacted Canada About NAFTA - LIAR, the Candian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.
Conclusion: no lie. The Canadian embassy contacted Mr. Goolsbee in his civilian role, not the other way around. Statement is imprecise, though.
Importance in a President: moderate.
29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - LIAR, you missed the Iran
Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports
the destruction of Israel.
Conclusion: no lie. Duplicate item, see #62.
30.) I Am Not Acting As President Yet - LIAR, after the NAFTA Memo, a dead terrorist in the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating how you and he were working together on getting FARC recognized officially.
Conclusion: no lie. The two things seem to have nothing to do with eachother to begin with, and the quotation is false. No sources given.
31.) I Didn’t Run Ads In Florida - LIAR, you allowed national ads to run 8-12 times per day for two weeks - and you still lost.
Conclusion: no lie. False quotation. Duplicate item, also. Same 'lie' is repeated further down. See item #70.
Importance in a President: moderate.
32.) I Won Michigan - LIAR, no you didn’t.
Conclusion: no lie. Quotation is fabricated. Obama never said this.
Importance in a President: unimportant.
33.) I won Nevada - LIAR, no you did not.
Conclusion: no lie. Quotation is false. Obama said he would 'likely' win the 'delegate count' in Nevada. This is true.
Importance in a President: unimportant.
34.) I Want All Votes To Count - LIAR, you said let the delegates decide.
Conclusion: no lie. These statements are not mutually exclusive. Please
complain to the DNC about their chosen method of electing a nominee.
Importance in a President: moderate.
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