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'Who gave you a thought police license to banish Americans for exercising a right to free speech'
So I have the right to call you a moron? Good.
'How about you? Are you an indigenous native American, family been here a long time, or are you just a recent immmigrant crazy idiot?'
Give me an immigrant who loves this country over a moron who trashes it any day.
Quote: 'If you think Barack Obama with little or no experience would be better than Hillary Clinton with 35 years experience.'
You are one of those that believe everything that you read, right. 35 years ago would put Hillary Clinton in the year that she graduated from law school. Yep, she got lots of experience, making coffee as the junior partner in a law firm. LOL.
Get real.
After all of the blah, blah, blah I just read-GET REAL! This type of down-play is pathetic. This only makes him seem like a normal politician. Although he has worked with questionable persons, it doesn't mean he acted as they did. Find proof of Obama's criminal activity and get back to us. Thats one reason why 'he hasn't dropped in the polls'.
' Find proof of Obama's criminal activity and get back to us.'
he is LIVING in it... His mansion was subsidized by Tony Rezko.
He is not charged with anything regarding Rezko.
The Clintons are charged with fraud in their upcoming trial... Try again.
Using the illogical argument of the idiot above, I suppose you would only define a patriot in nazi Germany as one who joined the gestapo and worshipped Hitler; or suggest that someone who believed that supporting Pol Pot leadership in Cambodia was the only way to define someone who loved their country. I can not see the logic of you insisting that someone who questions the political decisions of certain leaders makes that person into someone who 'trashes' his country. You have a very rigid, but twisted, nazi-like sense of patriotism. If you can not understand what I said in the above post, perhaps you could at least answer my question- Why should we have not gone after osama bin laden and al qaeda right into Pakistan after 9/11?
Does finding all the perpetrators of 9/11 mean nothing to you?
well stated.
HE IS LIVING IN THE HOOUSE THAT REZKO HELPED HIM BUY AFTER OBAMA HELPED REZKO STEAL MILLIONS FROM THE TAXPAYERS.
Ho here:
rezkowatch.blogspot.com
and educate yourself before you vote.
'I suppose you would only define a patriot in nazi[sic] Germany as one who joined the gestapo and worshipped[sic] Hitler; or suggest that someone who believed that supporting Pol Pot leadership in Cambodia was the only way to define someone who loved their country.'
Equating the USA with Nazi Germany or Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge is just more of your attention whoring, clinically paranoid stupidity. Give it a rest and go take your meds.
'You have a very rigid, but twisted, nazi[sic]-like sense of patriotism. '
No, not at all. Just a low threshold of tolerance for such completely idiotic statements. You see, I have read some of your posts here and just because I believe that your IQ is about 85 and you live off of free cheese from the government doesn't mean that I want throw people in to gas chambers. My contempt for your whining and moaning does not make me a 'NAZI', that is just stupid hyperbole from a stupid little person.
' Why should we have not gone after osama bin laden and al qaeda right into Pakistan after 9/11?'
Despite the subject being obama and and despite the fact that I am not interested in any interaction with you above and beyond calling you the idiot that you are and despite the fact that I do not want to encourage you go on and on with your nonsensical diatribes because someone paid some attention to you I will answer:
Invading Pakistan would have meant completely alienating a nuclear armed country with a very capable army that is cooperating to a certain extent with the war on terrorism. Pakistan is already allowing US special forces to operate in their tribal and to help guard their nuclear warheads. They allow overflights of our surveillance aircraft and have handed over a dozen important al qaeda terrorists including Ali Abdul Aziz Ali, Ramzi Binalshibh and Khalid Sheikh Mohammed; the architect of 9/11. Further, it would have meant that the occupation of Afghanistan would have been incredibly difficult and that we would have lost our NATO 'partners'.
That said, we should do what ever it takes to capture or kill bin laden. Turning the entire country of Pakistan against us is not a good strategy for doing that.
By Geoffrey P. Hunt
What are we to make of the extraordinary fervor of some of the supporters of Barack Obama? Stumbling upon a website called Is Barack Obama the Messiah? that chronicles the worship of Barack Obama as the second coming, I actually did a cartoon double take. The art work assembled there is stunning. Some is the stuff of Monty Python or Saturday Night Live, except that it is serious, it would seem.
Some of it is perhaps a result of what might be called educated stupidity. Orwell remarked on a separate issue,
'One would have to be a member of the intelligentsia to believe such things...no ordinary man could be such a fool.'
There is also an element of the teenage infatuation obvious to anybody who remembers how Ed Sullivan was swept off his own stage by The Beatles.
But Obama as Messiah does have an authentic following among the gullible chattering class. Obama BelieveLeading the genuflecting MSM elites is Hardball's Chris Matthews, now reduced to a pathetic and grotesque perpetual adoration.
Conversions often are accompanied by compelling witness, but not in Matthews' case. It was only a few months ago, as a Clinton shrill just before a string of inconvenient Obama victories, Matthews kept badgering a Texas State Senator, 'What has Obama ever accomplished?' It's still a good question, not yet been answered, but suddenly is no longer important. While Matthews is but a parody of an earnest star-struck co-op student would-be investigative journalist, he often resembles the medieval herald-jester, calculating the political winds before delivering an entreaty, a roast or a riddle.
This sort of thing is nothing new. In fact, in some of foundational literature of the English Language, the character type of Matthews is depicted among the commoners in Chaucer's time, totally captivated by the eloquent speechifying of professional frauds, the pardoners, the most entrepreneurial of itinerant relic-hawkers.
While The Wife of Bath's Tale and The Miller's Tale are full of ribald humor, The Pardoner's Tale has that searing sarcasm so close to the truth that the Pardoner shakes off any embarrassment to boldly promote his own sleight-of-hand oratorical gymnastics. But at the same time Chaucer excoriates the sinners-willing victims of another scam-as they knowingly look past the forgeries and the hyperbole, easily parting with their silver and their self-respect, desperate for salvation but satisfied by entertainment value alone.
And by his flatteries and prevarication
Made monkeys of the priest and congregation
But still to do him justice first and last
In church he was a noble ecclesiast.
How well he read a lesson or told a story!
But best of all he sang an Offertory,
For well knew that when that song was sung
He'd have to preach and tune his honey-tongue
And (well he could) win silver from the crowd.
That's why he sang so merrily and loud.
From the General Prologue, The Canterbury Tales, Translation Neville Coghill, 1951
It is the modern day commoners -- Obama apologists, sponsors and supporters -- who are willing to overlook Obama's disingenuous character, willing to embrace his phony Obama feverexhortations for unity and willing to underwrite his distortions, half-truths and outright fabrications. These are the enablers for Obama, the Pardoner. Obama the Pardoner sells his own 21st century brand of indulgences, promising equal outcomes, harmony with all people economic redistribution and perhaps the most profound blessing -- absolving white man’s guilt by placing a black man in the White House -- in exchange for a credit card authorization and a primary vote.
Much literary analysis of The Pardoner's Tale has been devoted to the cognitive dissonance of a prototypical pardoner's audience, willing dupes sincerely believing in a transcendent deliverer knowing the warrant is false and the relics just another bag of pig knuckles. Equally compelling is the study of the Pardoner as moral arbiter among the compromised. The Pardoner, imprisoned by his own hypocrisy, knowing that his penitents are fully aware of his deceptions, nonetheless takes the high ground because for the moment at least he is smarter than anyone around him,. After all, it's only his wallet that gets fatter:
If there be one among you that is willing
To have my absolution for a shilling
Devoutly given come! And do not harden
Your hearts but kneel in humbleness for pardon;
Or else, receive my pardon as we go.You can renew it every town or so
Always provided that you still renew
Each time, and in good money, what is due.
It is an honour to you to have found
A pardoner with his credentials sound
Who can absolve you as you ply the spur
In any accident that may occur
From The Pardoner's Tale, The Canterbury Tales,Translation Neville Coghill, 1951
Chaucer's pilgrims reach their moment of truth at the end of The Pardoner's Tale when the Pardoner beckons the innkeeper to be the 'first to pay and kiss my holy relics right away... Come on, unbuckle your purse.' The innkeeper will have none of it: 'not I' replies the Host, 'and may the curse of Christ descend upon me if I do.'
The Rev Jeremiah Wright's unrepentant blasphemy and hate-filled racism is real enough. Obama would like us to believe it is nothing more than a see-through bag of fake relics and forged papal bulls. Obama's calculated cynicsm and patronizing disrespect of even his most fervent believers when he says Rev Wright has been falsely caricatured would make even the Pardoner gasp. How many Democrats will take a cue from Chaucer's Host to declare, 'Enough!'
Good lord - these people have been analyzed so much it's incredible!
It would appear that every little move of a finger has some huge underhanded meaning. The candidates are made out to be the devil himself out to destroy the U.S. while they are reaping the spoils - hilarious!
To the idiot above- Your fascist bagering and name calling will not shut me up. Again, in you fanatic thought processing, you did not understand what I said. I was not comparing the US to nazi Germany or Cambodia. I was comparing the nature of YOUR thinking to that of a nazi. BY THE WAY, I HAVE NEVER BEEN ON WELFARE. YOU DO NOT KNOW ME AT ALL. AND YOU ARE A COMPLETE ASS.
Don't you guys think the voting should be focused on the programs the candidates have,rather than getting lost on attitude or perception of characters ? Are your problem related to a character or do you think education,health care;global warming,the economy are important issues .
Always strange to see so many people behave lioke cheerleaders or groupies .Get wise...
Let's take a look at the subjects the dems are discussing:
Race.....can't seem to stop! Geraldine Ferraro was right, just like Rush was! Golly, Geraldine and Rush, who knew?!
Hillary's lying about her sniper fire - who's fault is that?
Obama's GRRREAT deal on his home via the always up-and-up Mr. Tony 'the knife' Rezko.
Superdelegates - I'll bet Hillary is dusting off those FBI files now, eh Tonny?! All she has to do is wave it in front of the delgate!
Seems to me there isn't much discussion about any of the issues you seem to want to hear about over there in waffle paradise. I would say that, any real politician can determine the issues they wish to discuss, but these two seem to have a pretty nice distraction going on, so why spoil it with concrete proposals, issue-specific jargon, etc.
On the plus side, Obama's advisor is now pimping a 16 month drawdown in Iraq, with a residual force of 60,000 to 80,000 troops, indefinitely! (read: forever) Sounds to me a lot like what Bush did going in. Most of all, if the Iraqi's can secure it, this will be al prep'ed for him when he gets there!
Now tell me Tonny, as the resident mindelss liberal, does 60,000 to 80,000 indefinite troop deployment SOUND like pulling out, to you?
By all means, feel free to respond. I cannot wait for the moonwalk on this one.
'Don't you guys think the voting should be focused on the programs the candidates have,rather than getting lost on attitude or perception of characters ?'
Where to start? Obama wants to lose us 2 wars, abandon our commitment to the middle east which will drive oil prices through the roof and wreck our economy. He also wants toi add a trillion dollars in entitlement spending when we are already 9 trillion in debt. He has been a 3rd rate senator for the short period of time he has been in office and his tenure as a state senator was a corrupt disaster.
It seems that it depends who you ask. Rasmussen polls still have Hillary way ahead. And they were in a statistical tie, despite the fact that the media won't count Florida votes or Michigan votes in their tallies, but if you do count them then they were tied. I think Hillary will be ahead in the popular vote by the time this is done, but the delegates will probably get away with doing whatever the hell they want. Bummer.
Hillary Clinton is doing so well...I am however now surprised that she actually did nothing at the white house apart from all te scandals stated...Talking about experiences...May I please know, which American President went to the White House with a presidential experience? (apart from 2nd terms)
Do people also say Obama is doing so well because he is black? I presume neither Hillary nor Mc Cain would have reached where they are now if they were black!!! Lets all drop this race card...In November I may find myself voting for Obama though I am Republican. I think that Obama guy is for real!
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