McCain speaks out against US unilateralism (Roundup)
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Mar 26, 2008, 20:14 GMT
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Finally, someone in the Republican party has realized that there is great wisdom in Europe. We in Europe have great experience in foreign affairs. Look at the fine job we did during the last century. While we are generous with our opinions, don't expect us to actually do anything (like contribute funds or equipment or soldiers). We are just in the opinion business.
'When we believe international action is necessary, whether military, economic, or diplomatic, we will try to persuade our friends that we are right,' he said. 'But we, in return, must be willing to be persuaded by them.'
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All these hypotheticals reveal his true nature. Chomping at the bit to use POWER for something, even before having an enemy or cause.
'in Europe have great experience in foreign affairs.'
Yes, WW2, WW1, The Franco-Prussian war, Kosovo, etc... ;-)
Europeans are like tics riding on a dogs backside getting a free ride/lunch. The only difference is that they have the audacity to complain that they cant control the poor dog.
I prefer to be seeing the Obama president because his preacgher is the only religous person who is not a muslim that i have agreed with .
McCain's comments marked a sharp departure from the Bush administration's policy of acting unilaterally when it believes US interests are at stake.
What other role does the President have, other than acting in American interests?
Don't be lured into thinking the two posts above were made by me,any decent man can only enjoy the fact that McCain is throwing overboard the legacy of BUsh.I guess somebody else here is losing his marbles now that McCain tries to get rid sever the ties with what was obviously a disgrace to the american people .I always knew they will wake up and join the international world community .Where is SP4 now that all his ships are burning...hiding behind my name ?Good,I'd be enjoying that .I'm sincerely glad the last moronic cretins refuting global warming...like noharness claiming that it is al due to bad positioning of measuring instruments (how stupid can one be to reduce the biggest problem of humanity to such explanation) and his friend SP4 are now on the way out.Let's all wave them out.And as somebody else already said ...the door is that wooden thing in the wall,don't let it hit you in the bum.
My posts are labeled, as such, above.
They contain no ambiguities, but they do require you to, perhaps, think.
By all means, apply yourselves and be sure to get back to us!
'...yes, this is th prez e dint...oh!...hello Johnny.....how's it goin?...con grats on th nomination...nah...you'll git er fer sure Johnny...jes let me knoow if ya need ol Karl t come up an hep...no?...no Karl?....golly Johnny, he's th best...yeah, ah knoow..who knew Kerrys men really hated im s much?...beats me....coulda been calin em names or sumpin...beats th haell outa me...pretty dumb fer such a smart guy..'
'What..unilateralism.....y what?....jes a minute....lookin it up....oh yeah..that!...haell Johnny, what d ya think thit oath ya take on the capital steps means....it sure as haell don't mean ya oil up t sum'un who's cornholin ya bee hind ya back....ah guiss thit covers pretty much th whole damn world...but ya cin't do it anyways unless yur doin th cornhoolin..n' Johnny, it's a figyah o speech...noo ah don't knoow if Clinton did that eithah...maybah...she wuz th type, thit's fer sure!...'
'cooperation?....oh, thit....yeah, we git sum o thit...yep, th Brits, th poles....sum tahmes evin th French...th germans...yep...th Italians...yep, th Saudis, th Indians, Pakis's, sum othim S. Amiricans...Th Mexicans and th canucks too!...heck Johnny, evin th Russians on a good dayah....S whats th problim thire Johnny...is the Viet Cong....c'mon Johnny, be honest...they still rubbin ya th wrong way....waell, who cin blame ya....y could always pick anothah fight with em Johnny....no? Waell, OK bah me...'
'Here's what ah do Johnny...most o these other nations jes hate mah guts, but th leadahs cum t me fer hep, an I hep em! Yep, reel prahvate an all! Ah hepp'ed thim euro's git outa Kyotoo, got ol Sarkzy..nahce wahfe eh..wish SHE wuz runnin fer Hillarah, huh? That'd be worth gittin a lamp broke oveah y ' head fer sure!...got im sum stuff, covahed fer th Brits, hepp'ed th Germans, covah'ed fer both thim jews and most o th towelhaeds...thim S. Amiricans with CAFTA...ah hep em all Johnny, an let em piss on mee in thire own coutries t hep em summore! It works reeel good
Johnny..most of all, they all quit complainin, ya notice? Heh, heh, he...nuthin more pree dictable thin a politician, eh Johnny?!'
'Johnny, don't worry aboout it....thim votahs are eithah gonna or not....trah stayin outa trouble...muddy th watah a little...talk tough whin ya need to, an give the farm aways! ya' all win everah tahme! N' git out thire an win Johnny, make me proud boyh!'
RE: McCain's comments marked a sharp departure from the Bush administration's policy of acting unilaterally when it believes US interests are at stake.
What other role does the President have, other than acting in American interests?
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Hey, schmuck - just perhaps, the President might be acting in America's interest just by shutting up and listening, and getting off that high-horse that he envisions himself riding? We're part of NATO as a common defense pact, and not the sole influence, as one example.
Bush showed zero interest in listening to anyone when even his own people advised against his policies in Iraq. Rumsfeld's 'old Europe' comment typified that egomania that YOU seem to share - the Neocon curse, as it were.
Bush has compounded his own stupidity by considering anyone not agreeing with him to be against him, and therefore disloyal.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Study_Group_Report#Diplomatic_concerns
RECOMMENDATION 2: The goals of the diplomatic offensive as it relates to regional players should be to:
Support the unity and territorial integrity of Iraq.
Stop destabilizing interventions and actions by Iraq's neighbors.
Secure Iraq's borders, including the use of joint patrols with neighboring countries.
Prevent the expansion of the instability and conflict beyond Iraq's borders.
Promote economic assistance, commerce, trade, political support, and, if possible, military assistance for the Iraqi government from non-neighboring Muslim nations.
Energize countries to support national political reconciliation in Iraq.
Validate Iraq's legitimacy by resuming diplomatic relations, where appropriate, and reestablishing embassies in Baghdad.
Assist Iraq in establishing active working embassies in key capitals in the region (for example, in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia).
Help Iraq reach a mutually acceptable agreement on Kirkuk.
Assist the Iraqi government in achieving certain security, political, and economic milestones, including better performance on issues such as national reconciliation, equitable distribution of oil revenues, and the dismantling of militias.
In this report, however, the goals of the United States take precedence over the interests of the population of Iraq:
Recommendation 41: The United States must make it clear to the Iraqi government that the United States could carry out its plans, including planned redeployments, even if Iraq does not implement its planned changes. America's other security needs and the future of our military cannot be made hostage to the actions or inactions of the Iraqi government.
(When you see our resident a-hole SP4 objecting, it's a good sign that someone in the GOP has absorbed a dose of realism. We've lost partners in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the Annapolis mideast conference become a symbol of a photo-op presidency where Bush occasionally went through the motions of listening, and then did exactly what he intended to in the first place. Efforts in Afghanistan are behind, and McCain has simply moved towards the center on the issue of respect for other countries.)
ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hVQ5j3WPZHqytrv1y0vQoA_M_QEwD8VLE7PO0
LOS ANGELES (AP) — Republican John McCain on Wednesday called anew for the United States to work more collegially with democratic allies and live up to its duties as a world leader, drawing a sharp contrast to the past eight years under President Bush.
'Our great power does not mean we can do whatever we want whenever we want, nor should we assume we have all the wisdom and knowledge necessary to succeed,' the likely presidential nominee said in a speech to the Los Angeles World Affairs Council. 'We need to listen to the views and respect the collective will of our democratic allies,' McCain added.
Coming days after his trip to the Middle East and Europe, McCain's speech was intended to signal to leaders abroad — and voters at home — that he would end an era of what critics have called Bush's cowboy diplomacy. McCain never mentioned Bush's name, though he evoked former Democratic Presidents Truman and Kennedy.
It was, in effect, a fresh acknowledgment from the Arizona senator that the United States' standing on the world stage has been tarnished and that the country has an image problem under Bush.
'We know that we have work to do,' McCain told reporters later.
Critics at home and abroad have accused Bush of employing a go-it-alone foreign policy in the wake of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks when the administration spurned international calls for caution and led the invasion into Iraq.
'The United States cannot lead by virtue of its power alone,' McCain said in the speech, noting that the United States did not single-handedly win the Cold War or other conflicts in its history. Instead, he said, the country must lead by attracting others to its cause, demonstrating the virtues of freedom and democracy, defending the rules of an international civilized society and creating new international institutions.
He said the United States must set an example for other democracies and renewed his call for creating a new global compact of more than 100 democratic countries to advance shared values and defend shared interests. Later, he told reporters he discussed his League of Democracies idea last week with French President Nicolas Sarkozy and British Prime Minister Gordon Brown.
In the speech, McCain also distanced himself from Bush by reiterating positions that run counter to the president: he favors the quick closure of the Guantanamo Bay prison for suspected terrorists, a successor to the Kyoto climate treaty, a global nuclear disarmament effort and a renewed commitment to the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty.
'If we lead by shouldering our international responsibilities and pointing the way to a better and safer future for humanity ... it will strengthen us to confront the transcendent challenge of our time: the threat of radical Islamic terrorism,' said the four-term senator and top Republican on the Armed Services Committee.
I consider Bush's actions to be those of someone with 'issues', as the polite phrase goes - some details. Bush's physician at the time was Air Force Col. Richard Tubb - remember this incident?
archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/01/13/bush.fainting/
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush fainted for a brief time Sunday in the residence of the White House while eating a pretzel and watching a professional football game on television, the White House said.
Bush's physician, Air Force Col. Richard Tubb, said the president blacked out and fell to the floor from a couch but appeared to have recovered quickly.
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www.tomflocco.com/fs/SecretServIntelSay.htm
Washington—November 17, 2005—TomFlocco.com—Secret Service members attached to White House domestic security, FBI and CIA agents, and written national security field reports all confirm that President Bush has been using drugs which could be affecting his performance as the nation’s war-time commander-in-chief.
Multiple federal agents having direct knowledge and access to Bush’s medical records say the President has switched from using Ritalin to taking Prozac while also succumbing to periodic alcoholic binges which have led to tirades and explosive personal conduct among White House aides, absent required random drug testing of all public employees and elected officials.
Federal law enforcement agents have at different times witnessed President Bush doing lines of cocaine in the early morning hours at the White House and drinking straight shots of whiskey in the evening hours on other occasions, according to U.S. intelligence sources who confirm multiple stories appearing in the tabloid press which say the First Lady is assigned to “keep an eye on him.”
Bush’s alleged conduct raises serious questions as to what effect the chemicals are having on his oval office decision-making, and why Democrats and Republicans facing coming voter backlash—while undoubtedly having heard the whispers—are failing to call for the release of Bush’s medical records for bipartisan congressional scrutiny.
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www.williambowles.info/empire/bush_on_drugs.html
President George W. Bush is taking powerful anti-depressant drugs to control his erratic behavior, depression and paranoia, Capitol Hill Blue has learned.
The prescription drugs, administered by Col. Richard J. Tubb, the White House physician, can impair the President's mental faculties and decrease both his physical capabilities and his ability to respond to a crisis, administration aides admit privately.
“It's a double-edged sword,” says one aide. “We can't have him flying off the handle at the slightest provocation but we also need a President who is alert mentally.”
Angry Bush walked away from reporter's questions.Tubb prescribed the anti-depressants after a clearly-upset Bush stormed off stage on July 8, refusing to answer reporters' questions about his relationship with indicted Enron executive Kenneth J. Lay.
“Keep those motherfuckers away from me,” he screamed at an aide backstage. “If you can't, I'll find someone who can.”
Bush's mental stability has become the topic of Washington whispers in recent months. Capitol Hill Blue first reported on June 4 about increasing concern among White House aides over the President's wide mood swings and obscene outbursts.
Although GOP loyalists dismissed the reports an anti-Bush propaganda, the reports were later confirmed by prominent George Washington University psychiatrist Dr. Justin Frank in his book Bush on the Couch: Inside the Mind of the President. Dr. Frank diagnosed the President as a “paranoid meglomaniac” and “untreated alcoholic” whose “lifelong streak of sadism, ranging from childhood pranks (using firecrackers to explode frogs) to insulting journalists, gloating over state executions and pumping his hand gleefully before the bombing of Baghdad” showcase Bush's instabilities.
If the above post is true,it saddens me .I found similar glee with the misfortunes of Iraqi people with people like SP4 who clearly thinks Iraqi people are some kind of inferior race ,not capable of any civilization .Do I have to repeat that being brutalized by Saddma first,Al Quaida and thez US invasion now ,with a destroyed economy and daily misery for all does NOT constitute a blueprint for progress ?
T
what is ailing mr. mcrat now? I believe the foreign policy inititives of our current prez have been superlative, and certainly beyond reproach. Shock and awe was a marvelous learning tool, and clearly demonstrated to the entire world what we are all about. Smoke'm out of their holes strategy worked better than any talk is cheap diplomacy even could. We found the perps of 9/11 and tonnes of WMD in Iraqalqaeda. What more should be done except kill more enemy? This is why we don't want no stinking UN involved in our sovereign national situations. They just sit around and talk, when immediate action needs to be taken based upon intelligence we believe to be true. Believing that Iraqalqaeda was the home of the 9/11 terrorists is just as true as believing that the Japs lived in Japan during WWII, so going to get them in the nation that harbors them is not difficult to understand.
'show me the man and I'll find the crime he's guilty of..' - Joseph Stalin
Swift Boating!: you guys are good a this! Who knew...?
Libnazis stick to their dogma, worse than the Catholic Church:
Stupid
Crazy
Radical
Like a shell game, when one does not work, you insist the little pearl is under another cup. Lately, it's gotta be crazy. After all, beating Kerry and that talking head Gore (talk about looking crazy...and alcoholic!) hardly makes a liberal want to insist he's stupid. Maybe he can get a Nobel prize now...?
The alchoholic touch is always nice...never mind that Ted Kennedy has done this for thirty years and the liberals never seme to mention it. Far be it for a President to use drugs, like JF Kennedy and his pain killers...perhaps that had something to do with the Bay of Pigs...?
Yep...keep that rumor mill goin....it's about time for a fake document again, huh? Some poor news wag has to lose his career.
As for the Iraiq's, that still does not make me wrong Tonny. The USA is certainy not responsible for their failure to form a peaceful society.
From a party who is electing a candidate with a cocaine issue.
SP4 continues to amaze us all,confronted with the allegations that you have a madman at the steering wheel of your country he points back to the past ...
If I were him I'd say that the scenario of a madman at the steering wheel is practically impossible ,that so many safeguards are preventing such a thing from happening and endangering your country ,like the impeachment procedure for mental instability .But not him ,his own mental framework being somehow similar to the symptomatic picture of Bush portrayed ,he can not even imagine there is anything wrong with the picture .
Is it really possible that a madman could take control of your country and nobody would even ring the alarm bell ?That is the first question to ask,it seems an unlikely situation to be honest . Apparently not to SP4,he only compares to past situations and seems to accept the scenario.
'McCain will lose hard-right votes for this'
LOL!
You are divorced from reality. Hard right voters will vote for anyone other then Obama or Hillary and Clinton voters are more likely to vote for McCain then Obama:
'McCain will lose hard-right votes for this'
LOL!
You are divorced from reality. Hard right voters will vote for anyone other then Obama or Hillary and Clinton voters are more likely to vote for McCain then Obama:
A new analysis of March polling data suggests that John McCain's cross-party support surpasses that of either Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton.
According to data provided by the Gallup Organization at Politico’s request, in a hypothetical contest between McCain and Obama, McCain wins 17 percent of Democrats and those leaning Democratic, while Obama wins 10 percent of Republicans and Republican-leaners.
In a potential contest with Clinton, McCain wins 14 percent of Democrats and Democratic-leaners while Clinton wins 8 percent of Republicans and Republican-leaners.
By way of comparison, exit polls in 2004 reported that George W. Bush won 11 percent of Democrats and John F. Kerry won 6 percent of Republicans.
The new analysis, calculated from a compilation of the Gallup Organization’s daily polls between March 7 and 22, seems to indicate that there are more “McCain Democrats” than the much-ballyhooed “Obama Republicans” - or “Obamacans,” as they are sometimes referred to.
The polls were aggregated at Politico’s request as part of an effort to assess the cross-party appeal of each candidate. The compilation created a larger sample size, allowing pollsters to more accurately decipher voting patterns by party affiliation.
McCain’s potential to win more crossover votes than either of the Democrats, a finding that also surfaces in surveys conducted by Fox News/Opinion Dynamics and in private GOP polls, could upend the political calculus for the November general election.
Equally important, Gallup finds that McCain wins independents against either Democrat - 48 to 23 percent against Clinton, and 40 to 31 percent against Obama.
By the way, your 'tomflocco' cr*p is beyond nuts, as are you at this point.
Look at this race:
Here is THE candidate who, undeniably, strattles both sides of the aisle.
He has, to his own detriment, backed legislation that has raised the ire of both parties.
He is, in a word, independent, or at least more so than anyone who is running.
He has the legislative record to prove it.
Where are the dems who want someone who will folow his principles and not, necessarily, the principles of his, or her party?
They are absent. McCain is the only candidate who can make this claim.
He is 71?
He spoke in LA (California, Mexico)
He works out of Arizona (Mexico too, NO?)
And he was born in Panama.
This guy is Latino!!!!!!!!!
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