Five years on, Bush vows to win in Iraq
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Mar 19, 2008, 18:13 GMT
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I'm so glad that our much-maligned, but truly magnificant, president and commander-in-chief, GWB continues to stand on the high moral ground. He refuses to cater to the treacherous libnazi defeatocrat extremists who have turned into a bunch of cowardly traitors, and who just want to cut and run from our sacred, and patriotic mission of protecting America with our totally justified war in Iraq. He showed the Iraq people just how marvelous shock and awe can be, with very little collateral damage-mission accomplished. He located the vast stockplies of Iraqi-al qaeda WMD and destroyed it-mission accomplished. He brought the evil madman, al-qaeda terrorist, and super-villian Saddam the insane to justice-mission accomplished. He created a powerful magnet to attract all the al-qaeda terrorists born in Iraq, and to pull all the remaining al-qaeda terrorists living abroad, in places like Germany, England, Canada, and the United States,back into Iraq to our terrorist killing fields-mission accomplished. The president has ingeniously invented a superb method of killing al-qaeda terrorists, and their families of terrorist sympathizers, in Iraq where they come from, so that we do not have to kill them in New York and Washington-mission accomplished. GWB brought the Iraqis freedom and democracy-mission accomplished. And, he has discovered a way to get all the oil over there that really belongs to us, thereby keeping oil prices from increasing astronomically, like they would have done without our war on the terrorists in Iraq-mission accomplished. What's there about all this not to admire, and give full credit to GWB, for faithfully doing God's good work on earth and saving our homeland from Iraqi-al-qaeda terrorists? I could go on with more insights about this, but I have said it all already. I realize that the MSM brain-washed, perverted, cowardly libnazi demonrats will not have the faith to believe any of these words of truth spoken by a true believer in our wise, very good president. I only wish that he could be re-elected in november, so he could continue to work hard to save our country.
'....Yes, this is th President!...oh, heloo Hirry...no...been busy an all...Barak who?....O'Baama...?...sounds irish t me boyh! Nooo ah don't watch th TV thit often...sumtahmes ah watch ol Gene Simmons or one o thim reality shoows they got now...maybah sum C-Span...what's on yur mahnd boyh!?'
'Hirry...Hirry...quit ya screemin boyh....ah din't knooow he was reeely colored...ah always thought mah staff wuz jokin....seriously!....maybah he's one o thim black Irish lahke thit band leadah from Thin Lizzy..y' know..th boyhs r' back in town...n' Hirry...it's yur partee boyh...thit's one thing ah cin't do fer ya....yur jes gonna hav t wait until th convention....yep..ol Bill'll deal im out...yep and not think twahce...!...Hirry...ever hear of Waco?...ol Bill sent in thim trooper fellas an gunned dooown one crazy-assed preacher ovah a single gun charge....one charge boyh!...women an children too!...noo..I ain't makin it up...he reeely did it remembah?...noo re commendations....cin't do thit in Chicago or anywhire else Hirry...we're republicans remember?....y' jes hav t wait unitl th Clintons git back in...Noo Ol Dick don't shoot nuthn but Lawyahs...no crazy preachers...well, I'll check jes t make shure!'
'N' Hirry, ah cin hep ya boyh...with anythin, but this ol war is not gonna end bee fore th election. Ah Knoow...ya shoulda though o thit before ya greenlahgted it, but I sympathize...y' got yur tail in a twist Hirry...well...at least it might not be that bowlegged wahfe o Bills!'
Vote for McCain,give Bush a third term ....
Sure, the high costs in lives and treasure are worthwhile...as long as they are not his AWOL or his buddie’s multiple draft deferment lives, who are going to nevertheless get fat retirement pensions despite the loss of treasure.
As for Iraq being better off without Saddam and his slaughter, far more have been slaughtered due to the instability we have created there.
As for “our enemies in Iraq”...they came to Iraq after we did, and bushie used that country for his private battleground. Better their civilian casualties than ours, plus we get ops on Iraq’s oil policies.
The man is clearly insane, put in power along with his puppets by a gullible American public, most of whom cannot even find Iraq on a map. The genius of Karl Rove was recognizing the extreme gullibility and incompetence that exists in roughly a third of the American public, and the skip and a jump from there to a majority vote.
Until votes in a democracy are weighed according to education, community service, citizenship status, age, time in country, and criminal record, we will always have a sub-prime civilian leadership endangering the World and stripping away the rights of American citizens at home.
...the next thing these dumb old voters will do is vote for a black person because he's black.
Cocaine, no experience, ivy league education, and never served...Obama and Bush have more in common thant you think!
'Comprising 112 billion barrels of proven oil, Iraq ranks second in the world behind Saudi Arabia in the amount of Oil reserves; the United States Department of Energy estimates that up to 90% of the country remains unexplored.' -US Dept of Energy
One can infer the reason why we are there & for how long with the sentence quoted above. So let's keep driving out to Florida in the middle of summer, drink from plastic bottles, & live in buildings covered with AC units from top to bottom. It's not like it's affecting anybody else. Go America!
..we were already getting all the Iraqi oil we wanted to buy, before we invaded...
tony really has no idea who mccain is does he.
I think President Bush can declare victory Iraq; he already won by a landslide.
US: 4,000 deaths.
Iraq: 500,000 deaths.
Multiple choice:
A. The man is sick.
B. He lives in a bubble.
C. He really believes himself.
D. He only cares about his own agenda, regardless of how many innocent people are killed, maimed, burned, decapitated, deformed, mutilated, humiliated, deceived, lied to, blown up, fatherless, brotherless, etc., etc.
E. All of the above.
I'm going with E
That 1st response is hilarious! I had to at least comment on that!
its well thought out and a perfect redneck rant, like near perfect no joke! Read it! In fact I will print it out and show it to my friends and colleagues. Thank you, You true American Patriots! It's you who weave History's mired, hazy and dopey-eyed tapestry of our modern day! Wait, I forgot unwavering and unquestioning loyalty, no matter what.
Bill Hicks is another dead hero,
and funny knows no bounds.
i can't wait until ALL our news is exclusively about celebrities(especially pregnant ones), TV shows, and their lives on and off camera. -oh and american idols.
I think that would be THE catalyst to finally get building that space station on MARS.
if you can't tell, I am a fervent and usually angry Bush supporter.
In less time than has elapsed since Bush began fighting in Iraq, the US completely defeated Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan during WWII ...
... by comparison, in even more time, Bush hasn't been able to secure the road to the airport in Baghdad.
Heck of a job Bushie.
Wow, I never knew someone could be so wrong all in one paragraph! Tell me how to get to this alternate reality that you live in......
In contrast to yesterday's Obama speech - this guy looks retarded.
Bush's legacy: Preemptive war based on delusions. Not the first leader in the world to have done so, but probably the first U.S. President to have done so in such a grandiose fashion!
'john
tony really has no idea who mccain is does he.'
Not knowing the first thing about a subject has never stopped tonny.
No one sober could spout this crap. Bush is just puffing himself up as a boost to the GOP facing a real defeat on the economy and jobs. I doubt that he knows that the date is without a script.
McCain was even more out of it by speaking of al Qaeda funded by Iran, and making multiple references of that before Lieberman whispered in his ear. McCain just MIGHT be too old to handle the Presidency, which requires proactive thinking. We already had the 'late' President Bush - late on Katrina, late on the war, late on the economy.
theboard.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/19/mccain-stumbles-on-the-facts-in-i raq/?hp
'During his Mideast visit, Senator John McCain — running for President as the ranking mastermind of military security issues — committed a basic error in describing the enemy forces at work in Iraq.
In news interviews in Jordan after his briefing with the American brass in Baghdad, Mr. McCain cited as a “well known” fact and “common knowledge” that the terrorist group Al Qaeda in Iraq was receiving training across the border in Iran.
His traveling companion, Senator Joseph Lieberman, soon whispered something in Mr. McCain’s ear. Whoops, perhaps, followed by the correction that the Iranians are training different extremists. Al Qaeda in Iraq is actually a Sunni-backed group most unlikely to have ties to the Shiite country of Iran. (The terrorists Iran is accused of supporting are Shiites, not Sunnis.)'
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SP4 reminds me of the old 'WETSU' acronym that the trainees were supposed to holler in basic training:
'We Eat This Shit Up!'
Here's his poll numbers:
www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/19/bush.poll/
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Just 31 percent of Americans approve of how President Bush is handling his job, according to a poll released Wednesday, the fifth anniversary of the start of the Iraq war.
Sixty-seven percent of those questioned in a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey disapprove of the president's performance.
The 31 percent approval number is a new low for Bush in CNN polling, and 40 points lower than the president's number at the start of the Iraq war.
'Bush's approval rating five years ago, at the start of the Iraq war, was 71 percent, and that 40-point drop is almost identical to the drop President Lyndon Johnson faced during the Vietnam War,' said CNN polling director Keating Holland.
'Johnson's approval rating was 74 percent just before Congress passed the Gulf of Tonkin resolution in 1964, which effectively authorized the Vietnam War. Four years later, his approval was down to 35 percent, a 39-point drop that is statistically identical to what Bush has faced so far over the length of the Iraq war,' he said.
(This is exactly what Petraeus spoke of in his interview as to the political failure)
Here's the key, in a one-paragraph excerpt from the next link:
'Maliki's detractors describe him as being hindered by an inner circle that does not like to share power and is fiercely sectarian. His supporters argue that he is trying to build a strong government and that other parties are standing in the way for selfish reasons.'
www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-fg-iraq19mar19,1,879867.s tory
BAGHDAD -- Influential Shiite and Sunni groups boycotted a conference on Iraqi reconciliation Tuesday, as U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney traveled north to meet with Kurdish leaders. Members of the main Sunni Arab parliament coalition, Tawafiq, refused to attend the two-day meeting because of complaints about the Shiite-dominated government.
Shiite Muslim cleric Muqtada Sadr's bloc walked out of the conference, saying it did not want a ceremonial presence. The same went for a contingent led by Sheik Ali Hatem Sulaiman, a representative of Sunni Muslim tribes that rose up against the Sunni insurgent group Al Qaeda in Iraq.
The boycott was symptomatic of the rifts and enmity among Iraqi parties, which are organized along ethnic and religious lines and have delayed progress in power sharing between the country's Shiite majority and the formerly ruling Sunnis. 'It is the Tawafiq bloc's opinion that current circumstances hinder the success of such conferences,' parliament member Iyad Samarrai said.
Prime Minister Nouri Maliki's government has dwindled since last summer to a core group of Shiite and Kurdish politicians. But the Shiite prime minister's relationship with the Kurds has become strained over matters such as Iraq's stalled oil legislation and the country's northern boundaries.
One conference organizer, Saad Muttalibi, accused the Sunni bloc, also known as the Iraqi Accordance Front, of deliberately trying to sabotage Maliki. 'This is basically political. When they saw hundreds and hundreds attending the conference, Tawafiq immediately withdrew,' Muttalibi said. 'The message is they will not attend a conference that may lead to strengthening Maliki's government.'
The organizer noted that Sunni tribes, which have revolted against Al Qaeda in Iraq, attended the conference. But one of their main leaders, Sheik Sulaiman, decided to lead his delegation out of the conference.
'I didn't stay any longer than it took me to smoke my cigarette. It was a total failure, because the Iraqi politicians are a failure,' Sulaiman said.
Followers of Shiite cleric Sadr quit the meeting early, in protest of what they called its lack of substance. 'We don't want to attend some conference where just speeches are made, we want actual activities to be initiated between the political powers,' said Sadr parliament bloc member Nassar Rubaie. Sadr's Mahdi Army militia was accused of fomenting sectarian violence before the anti-American cleric called a cease-fire in August.
Iraqi FM Warns Against Quick US Pullout
By KIM GAMEL – 10 hours ago
BAGHDAD (AP) — Iraq's foreign minister said Tuesday that he believes his country has averted a civil war after five years of 'tears and blood,' and warned that an abrupt U.S. troop withdrawal would be disastrous.
Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari told The Associated Press that mistakes had been made by all sides but Iraq has reached a turning point.
'These past five years I think were full of hopes and promises but also of tears and blood ... and we've gone through a very, very difficult transformation,' said Zebari, a Kurd who has held his post in each successive Iraqi administration since the U.S.-led invasion on March 20, 2003.
He noted that the Iraqis had established a government and gained freedoms that were absent under nearly three decades of Saddam Hussein's rule, despite violence that has killed tens of thousands of Iraqis and nearly 4,000 U.S. troops.
'At the same time divisions have deepened, unfortunately,' he said during an interview in an ornate reception room outside his office at the Foreign Ministry building in central Baghdad. 'But ... I think we averted a sectarian war. We passed the possibility of a civil war.'
Zebari said it was premature to set a timeframe for the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq, noting that negotiations on a long-term security agreement with the United States to replace a U.N. mandate had just begun.
He expressed concern about growing weariness by the American public with the war, and promises by rival Democratic presidential hopefuls Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama to begin withdrawing forces quickly if elected.
Zebari said changes could be made but warned that the consequences of a premature withdrawal would be 'disastrous.' All the security gains from a U.S. troop buildup 'would evaporate,' he said
Bush will be out of power, and like SP4, complaining about what the NEXT President does with the complete mess he's left behind. Perhaps the GOP's symbol is appropriate - we get to clean up after the elephants leave.
What Bush is leaving behind is 4 large bases in Iraq and a massively expensive embassy, and he'll try to find a way around Congress and cut a deal with al-Maliki to support them indefinitely with our troops. Bush is incurring future costs, and has not even had Iraq in the formal budget for years.
Already, they're talking about a 'pause' in the drawdown that's supposed to be happening - THAT'S why were getting all the 'we're winning' crapola - to convince the American people that their family members have to remain longer in Iraq. Bush will keep those numbers up until he's out of office, so when the sectarian crap hits the fan, he won't get the direct blame.
www.africasia.com/services/news/newsitem.php?area=mideast&item=08031915 5208.27blj7ue.php
Iraq's parliament has been paralysed by competition between parties driven by sectarian interests. Last year the US embassy in Baghdad documented a high level of corruption at all levels of government, and questioned the Maliki administration's willingness to crack down on crooked practices.
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