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FredMar 10th, 2008 - 13:16:44

SP4 said - 'doesn't really answer any of the questions I posed'

Nor have you answered the question I posed, as in a cowardly fashion you continue to hide your identity (which you claim would allow readers to better understand your otherwise insane rantings)

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SP4: Fred...babe!Mar 11th, 2008 - 00:20:23

Listen up:

GW Bush doesn't set wages in the United States. Heck, he can''t even set wages for those who work for him! They're set by law.

Sorry. Go see the employers.

When the libnazis destroyed industry and industry competitivness in America, you were left with a host of shittie jobs. None of this is Bush's fault either. Check out what happened to these industries:

Autos - Crazy union contracts and endless regulation. Curiously, it was mangement who f--ked this up, agreeing to anything.

Chemicals - endless regulation - cheaper to outsource

Forest Products - environazi nutballs produced endless lawsuits, wiping out a renwable resource recovery in the USA.

Energy - outsourced to other nations - crazy environazis stymied ANWR and offshore exploration.


Aluminum, steel, auto parts, heavy eq., mining....

Get the picture...Fred????

Why DO you think both sides of the aisle wanted free trade????

INDUSTRY KNEW THEY HAD TO MOVE OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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tonny from belgiumMar 11th, 2008 - 11:45:46

SP4 is very ignorant about the reasons why manufacturing jobs are disappearing from industrialized countries indeed.The reason should be obvious ,higher profits of course .Even if a company makes profit in the USA or Europe,it will still move to China or elsewhere if more profit is derived from that.We have a very good example of that here in Belgium when Renault closed it's most productive plant in order to make even more profit by implanting it in another country .If you apply the remedy proposed by SP4 to this kind of problem you end up with american workers having to work for chinese wages,the USA being polluted like China,labor unions being non existent like in China .The remedy would be worse than the disease ;I'll grant you that SP4,you are consistent with yourself at least,after all you are the guy claiming the unions hold too much power in the USA,right ?
I'd rather conclude they hold not enough power .
How cynical to put the blame on the victims.

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tonny from belgiumMar 11th, 2008 - 11:54:20

Indeed your farming products are bought by third world countries,SP4.Haiti is a perfectly good example of that.Thanks to subsidized rice exports from the USA the overproduction found a good market there.The result is ten thousands of small farmers losing their income and now living in the slums of Port Au Prince.Thank you for allowing me to use your own example to demonstrate the consequences of your free trade.

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