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You see, Tonny actually HAS a religion. He is a card carrying member of the Church-of-the-Divine-Liberal.
Now realize, this is a church created by folks who don't believe in God, so they created their own religion, just like the Scientologists.
In this church, the clerics are the academics. Their word is considered holy, and if you stray, they start the Inquisition on you.
Tonny is a zealot, plain and simple. He tows the line like a true believer, never stopping to consider the facts, be it Global Warming, Cooling, or any other subject. To him, the all-knowing academic feeds him his daily bread, taken on one knee and then he gives thanks. All Knowledge, at least from his administors, is considered truth, not just fact. In the Libnazi church, they are the same.
Now, if you have blasphemed the church and you must be re-educated. After all, this is the only logical conclusion when you fail to believe: you must be Crazy,
Stupid,
Or a Radical.
One quick brain-washing will do the trick in their Orwellian world. No dissent allowed.
Yes, it's the middle ages all over again, except with electricity. When they say they are uniters...this is what they really mean.
Sp4 is really too stupid to reply to, he has no credibility. But ; o ) still has a minor bit of credibility left so I will respond to his rants.
'Yeah, lots of catholic schools in Jakarta.'
Bigot and liar---I guess if he went to school in Alabama he would be a redneck?
'OOOOh Witty retort! Did I strike a nerve calling you out on your mental masturbatory, feel-good soft bigotry?'
The only nerve you struck was the laughter nerve, you are a funny guy---not much for the truth but funny.
'And his other qualifications are?'
He has much more experience that your sock puppets in the Bush administration. He has been a state senator for longer than Hillary, and has at least three times as much experience as your idiot boy GWB---plus he has told the truth once in a while in his career.
'I have been to Indonesia, it is an Islamic country where islamic education is the norm. I do not believe that he is a Muslim, he has said he isn't. (He has acknowledged he is a member of Trinity United Church of Christ which is all but a black supremacist/separatist church. Shall I post their creed? The 'pastor' Obama's minister, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright just gave an award to Louis Farrakhan and unsurprisingly, Louis Farrakhan the nation of islam leader just gave Obama a glowing recommendation endorsement. Are you going to claim that Louis Farrakhan isn't a racist either?)'
I have been there also idiot boy. You are not the only one with a passport. Were we to be impressed with your worldly travel? Go with their creed if you would like, I have read it. It is based in Africa and has nothing to do with Louis Farrakhan. He has disavowed any relationship with Mr. Farrakhan, and just because he was endorsed by him does not mean he has anything to do with Mr Farrakhan's organization. I guess when David Duke endorsed your crew, that made them part of the KKK? What an idiot! Are you going to claim that David Duke is a member of NAACP?
'Eeer... Yes... No money=poor, being a spoiled trust fund baby who likes to go out with guys to infuriate daddy would mean 'not poor'... I usually charge for this kind of economic illumination.'
You could not charge much since you are a liar and a bigot.
'It means he is a hypocrite who will sell out blacks to make a buck. '
Kind of like your white buddies in this administration who have sold out the entire countgry?
'Sorry, I didn't realize that you needed the obvious explained. I should have considering what you have posted.'
Great response, shows me you are an educated man (not)---probably military and lived 20 years off the government---maybe still doing it.
'Again, why would anyone vote for a freshmen senator with so little experience other then to make a 'statement'? Simply put, Obama is unqualified. Full stop. Maybe in a a couple of more terms he will have the experience and judgment to make a good president. As of now you and yours are like a bunch of simple children grabbing at the latest shiny toy the media is selling you. You are doing it because you love the idea of voting for the black guy... that is racism. '
That is your opinion and it does not mean much. A change is in the air and no matter what you old military dogs believe, a change is coming. And again what does Black have to do with the situation---you are only supporting John McKennedy because he is white---you bigot!
'Well, if you would like to spin it that way, (that ignores the other 45 years) but that is one of the ways he was tested and he conducted himself as honorably as humanly possible.'
Spin it? John McKennedy has not had an original thought for the last 10 years. When he kissed GWB's butt after GWB threw him under the bus, he ceased being a hero to many, many people.
'At the US Naval Academy. What community college did you flunk out of?'
Sorry buddy, but 226 out of 1350. I did not need to go into the military like you did so I could suck off 'mother government's' nipple for the rest of my life. I have a lot of friends that went to the Naval Academy, and as far as education goes---not that hard---at least that is what they say.
'LOL! Ill trade my New York senator for yours. '
After this election you will still have yours and I will still have mine!
'No one has ever, especially grudgingly, had to say that about Obama. Simply put; he is the flavor of the month, a fad, the newest hula-hoop.
The position of president of the United States is too important to be filled by unqualified fads voted in for capricious, bigoted reasons. '
What a stupid statement. You really are off a bit, usually you are on your game a bit better. The position of President has been filled for the last 7+ years by a joke of a man, not only a joke, but not worth the office. He has brought shame to all of us and it will take years to get his stink off of us. Again, no 'unqualified fad' here, a man with a vision and a man that has a future.
One last thing....you are a bigot and I am surprised you can see your computer screen while you have your hood on!
I'm afraid none of the quotes above are mine....
You need to get out more.
''Yeah, lots of catholic schools in Jakarta.'
Bigot and liar---'
I was being sarcastic, and no I am not a bigot. I find it ironic that you would call me that when it is YOU who are going to vote for someone because of his race.
'I guess if he went to school in Alabama he would be a redneck?'
Depends on the school. Would you argue that growing up in Alabama had no influence in this hypothetical of yours?
'He has much more experience that your sock puppets in the Bush administration.'
Just who are my 'sock puppets in the Bush administration'? If you could set aside your Bush derangement syndrome for a second and focus, you will realize that Bush is not running in this election.
'He has been a state senator for longer than Hillary,'
Barack Obama is the Jr. senator from Illinois, He assumed office on January 2, 2005. Come on... By the way, Hillary assumed office in 2001..
McCain has been serving the USA for 50 years.
'plus he has told the truth once in a while in his career.'
He hasn't had the time to think of a good lie.
'I have been there also idiot boy.'
Congratulations, hysterical girl, you took a cheap vacation. It does tell me though that you were being disingenuous when you call Indonesia a secular country.
'Go with their creed if you would like, '
OK:
2. Commitment to the Black Community
3. Commitment to the Black Family
6. Adherence to the Black Work Ethic
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of 'Middleclassness'
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the Black Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the Black Value System.
OK, Bigot... Would you vote for a white man who went to a church that insisted on a 'commitment to the white community' and the 'white value system'? Etc? Probably not. That is just what is out in the open. If that is what they are saying on their website... Well, again, what makes bigotry OK for them?
'and has nothing to do with Louis Farrakhan.'
So the fact that the Black Muslims have endorsed him doesn't give you pause.
'I guess when David Duke endorsed your crew, that made them part of the KKK? '
Who is my crew? David Duke hasn't endorsed McCain.
'You could not charge much since you are a liar and a bigot.'
Well, wrong on all 3 points. I haven't lied about anything. You are the one hopping on to the bigotry bandwagon because you think it would be fun to vote for a black man. My personal income is not up for discussion here.
'Kind of like your white buddies in this administration'
Which ones would they be?
'probably military and lived 20 years off the government'
You sound as if you do not like our military. Why would that be?
'A change is in the air and no matter what you old military dogs believe, a change is coming. '
Again with the denigration of the military. 'Old military dogs' eh? Oh by the way bone head: the word 'change' that you morons hop onto (Like all the other bandwagons that the insecure need to ride on) doesn't signify whether or not it is POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE. Having an inoperable tumor in your brain is a 'change'. Loosing your leg is a 'change'. Idiots... I have heard the word 'change' chanted over and over again as if it were a magic spell. Some changes are disastrous.
'you are only supporting John McKennedy because he is white'
No, idiot, I am supporting him because he represents the best hope for the country against a rising tide of media programmed lemmings who will march in lock step toward 'change' without any thought what so ever in to what that signifies. I am supporting him because of his 50 years of service and if anyone out there has earned this it is him. I am supporting him because he is a fellow 'Old military dog' which gives him legitimacy to head the country in a time of war. I am supporting him because his competition are pre-packaged, phony, sound-bite spewing, disingenuous incompetents who are going to run this country that I love in to the ground. When you say that I am just going to vote for him because he is white you are judging me by your own stupid yardstick.
'John McKennedy has not had an original thought for the last 10 years. '
Gee, that is why he has the reputation for being such a 'maverick' ... Lack of originality. Nice try.
'When he kissed GWB's butt after GWB threw him under the bus
Back to Bush, eh? You just can't get past it. Your judgment is clouded. Once again, FOCUS: George Bush is not running in the next election.
'I did not need to go into the military like you did '
I joined the Navy after graduating from MIT in order to become an astronaut. I also joined because I believe in the United States, I value and honor our Constitution and Decoration of Independence and I did not want to have a free ride on other peoples efforts to defend and uphold it. I believe in the ideals of the USA and I wanted to make my actions congruent with my beliefs. That is not to say, and I sincerely do not believe that I am better then anyone else who served honorably who went in for a college education. But your stupid class-ist bigotry is incorrect. Not all of us are from 'Alabama' and joined up in order o learn how to count to 10.
'I have a lot of friends that went to the Naval Academy, and as far as education goes---not that hard---at least that is what they say.'
Simply put, you are wrong. Probably making it up as well. I found it more difficult then Ivy league.
Education is the process of being taught how to think for yourself. What you are confusing with education is indoctrination, the process where by people like you are taught how to chant 'change' and equate that stimulus with a desired outcome.
'What a stupid statement. You really are off a bit, usually you are on your game a bit better.'
Not really a rebuttal, now is it?
'The position of President has been filled for the last 7+....'
FOCUS: George Bush is not running in the next election... that is just your programming kicking in.
'Again, no 'unqualified fad' here, a man with a vision and a man that has a future.'
Again, look at the resume. Yes, simply put, an unqualified fad.
'One last thing....you are a bigot and I am surprised you can see your computer screen while you have your hood on!'
Aaah yes, the old 'I'm rubber you're glue' debate style shows itself again in dealing with an internet ranter.. No, I am not a bigot, you have shown yourself to be quite prejudiced here though. Mocking the military, people from southern states, etc... Most importantly, you are voting for someone who is unqualified because you think it might be fun to have someone of a particular race in the White House. That makes you a bigot.
'I was being sarcastic, and no I am not a bigot. I find it ironic that you would call me that when it is YOU who are going to vote for someone because of his race. '
Don't kid yourself, the real you came out there. And I am not going to vote for him because of his race, race has nothing to do with it. I like the fact that he is 25 + years younger and I am tired of old religious white men ruining the country---maybe Mr. Obama will do no better, but we need to go a different direction.
'Depends on the school. Would you argue that growing up in Alabama had no influence in this hypothetical of yours?'
I would not agree with that at all, I believe that one becomes a bigot not at school, but at home. If your parents are bigots, good chance you will be one also.
'Just who are my 'sock puppets in the Bush administration'? If you could set aside your Bush derangement syndrome for a second and focus, you will realize that Bush is not running in this election.'
GWB, Dick Cheney, Rumsfield, Rice, etc., etc. And I do not hate them, I hate the job they have done, or lack thereof.
'Barack Obama is the Jr. senator from Illinois, He assumed office on January 2, 2005. Come on... By the way, Hillary assumed office in 2001..'
While you are correct in this statement, Mr. Obama was elected to the Illinois State Senate in 1996. Mr. Obama was in the Senate while Ms. Clinton was trying to keep track of Bill and holding tea parties.
'He hasn't had the time to think of a good lie.'
Not much of a response there MIT boy.
'Congratulations, hysterical girl, you took a cheap vacation. It does tell me though that you were being disingenuous when you call Indonesia a secular country.'
I did not call it a 'secular country', I was just calling you on your lie about Mr. Obama attending a Muslim school. Liar!
OK: (what happened to 1)
2. Commitment to the Black Community
3. Commitment to the Black Family
6. Adherence to the Black Work Ethic
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of 'Middleclassness'
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the Black Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the Black Value System.
So, by you listing this it is suppose to prove what. That just because you believe in supporting your community and your race, one is a Black Muslim? Pretty weak there for a MIT grad, thought you could do better.
'OK, Bigot... Would you vote for a white man who went to a church that insisted on a 'commitment to the white community' and the 'white value system'? Etc? Probably not. That is just what is out in the open. If that is what they are saying on their website... Well, again, what makes bigotry OK for them? '
Thank you for proving that you are a bigot. This last statement shows me you have sheets in the closet. They must have a 'secret society' as they are for Black Pride? What a joke you are.
'So the fact that the Black Muslims have endorsed him doesn't give you pause.'
And again Idiot, how does what you listed above connect the church or Mr. Obama to the Black Muslims? Forgive me I cannot follow you logic here (as it is non-existence).
'Who is my crew? David Duke hasn't endorsed McCain.'
Give it time he endorsed your other boy GWB twice.
'Well, wrong on all 3 points. I haven't lied about anything. You are the one hopping on to the bigotry bandwagon because you think it would be fun to vote for a black man. My personal income is not up for discussion here.'
Liar, yes you have and you are a bigot. You have proven that a couple of times already as I point out above. Could not care less about your income???
'Which ones would they be?'
The current administration (or what is left of them).
'You sound as if you do not like our military. Why would that be?'
Have nothing at all against the military, glad you served and I thank you. I just don't think that serving your country makes you so special. It is a duty that some feel the need to complete and others do not. Thank God for those who do.
'Again with the denigration of the military. 'Old military dogs' eh? Oh by the way bone head: the word 'change' that you morons hop onto (Like all the other bandwagons that the insecure need to ride on) doesn't signify whether or not it is POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE. Having an inoperable tumor in your brain is a 'change'. Loosing your leg is a 'change'. Idiots... I have heard the word 'change' chanted over and over again as if it were a magic spell. Some changes are disastrous.'
And you are the know-all for the country now. Since when were you appointed to the job oc telling everyone else they are an 'idiot' because they do not believe your way. And by the way idiot, some changes are good!
'No, idiot, I am supporting him because he represents the best hope for the country against a rising tide of media programmed lemmings who will march in lock step toward 'change' without any thought what so ever in to what that signifies. I am supporting him because of his 50 years of service and if anyone out there has earned this it is him. I am supporting him because he is a fellow 'Old military dog' which gives him legitimacy to head the country in a time of war. I am supporting him because his competition are pre-packaged, phony, sound-bite spewing, disingenuous incompetents who are going to run this country that I love in to the ground. When you say that I am just going to vote for him because he is white you are judging me by your own stupid yardstick. '
You are not even close to being judged by me, I just think you are a neo-con idiot. I could care less about you as I know when we vote on election day, my vote counts just as much as your vote counts.
'Gee, that is why he has the reputation for being such a 'maverick' ... Lack of originality. Nice try. '
Everything John McKennedy has supported or backed was thught up by someone else. The only good thing he has done in the last 10 years is to tell the Bush administration they were screwing up by not sending prepared or adequate troops.
'Back to Bush, eh? You just can't get past it. Your judgment is clouded. Once again, FOCUS: George Bush is not running in the next election.'
Thank god Bush is gone, and my judgement is not clouded by my hatred for him---I don't hate him I just disagree with him. I guess you right wingers make that judgement---if you don't agree then you hate??? What kind of thought process is that. My opinion of Mr. McCain has been earned by Mr. McCain---when he campaigned for the administration that ran him and his family through the bad mouthing, lying, distortions, bigotry (pay attention) and crap that the Rove machine pulled on him and did not stand up and slap them down---he is not someone I believe should be running the country.
'I joined the Navy after graduating from MIT in order to become an astronaut. I also joined because I believe in the United States, I value and honor our Constitution and Decoration of Independence and I did not want to have a free ride on other peoples efforts to defend and uphold it. I believe in the ideals of the USA and I wanted to make my actions congruent with my beliefs. That is not to say, and I sincerely do not believe that I am better then anyone else who served honorably who went in for a college education. But your stupid class-ist bigotry is incorrect. Not all of us are from 'Alabama' and joined up in order o learn how to count to 10.'
Good for you and thanks again. But that said there are millions of Vets out there that do not think they are special, most of them do not even talk about it or think they are owed anything.
'Simply put, you are wrong. Probably making it up as well. I found it more difficult then Ivy league.'
My favorite college professor graduated from the Naval Academy. He spoke of it fondly and told us more than once it was not that hard. He was 27th in the class. A guy I golf with same thing except he was 76th in the class (both ended up as fighter pilots, I guess if you don't agree then it is 'made up'. Your logic is pretty skewed.
'Education is the process of being taught how to think for yourself. What you are confusing with education is indoctrination, the process where by people like you are taught how to chant 'change' and equate that stimulus with a desired outcome.'
Another 'up on the soapbox' speech. Your way or the highway huh? Get a real life.
'FOCUS: George Bush is not running in the next election... that is just your programming kicking in. '
Really---what an idiot.
'Again, look at the resume. Yes, simply put, an unqualified fad. '
Says you, only one vote just like mine.
'Aaah yes, the old 'I'm rubber you're glue' debate style shows itself again in dealing with an internet ranter.. No, I am not a bigot, you have shown yourself to be quite prejudiced here though. Mocking the military, people from southern states, etc... Most importantly, you are voting for someone who is unqualified because you think it might be fun to have someone of a particular race in the White House. That makes you a bigot.'
Have not mocked the military, people from southern states, am not voting for someone just because of their 'particular race' (does it hurt you to say Black or African American bigot) etc. More lies from an MIT man, they must be proud to have such a liar in their alumni.
By the way it is always fun arguing with a bigot, they always show their true colors.
I guess you are so used to it that you do not even know when you are being insulted. He was saying you are not worth responding to in regards to your little rant above.
Whad a dum-dum!
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