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Congress controls spending all Bush can do is vetoFeb 3rd, 2008 - 23:18:13

'Bush goes not get credit for anything except having a GOP Congress for the first 6 years abetting his failed policies'

Well, idiot, once again you miss the obvious: Bush is not running for reelection.

'followed by a Democratic majority without the 60 votes necessary for cloture'

Sore Loserman.

' The tax cuts of Bush threw too much money to the top 5 percent,'

You would have been poor no matter who was elected. Social Darwinism. I am actually surprised that you haven't starved to death.

'. A sane policy would be to hike the tax rate ON THE TOP 5 PERCENT'

Why don't we just handicap everyone who can run faster then you can too?

'while CUTTING taxes for the middle class and below'

The middle class had a tax cut, Obama and Clinton want to repeal it.

'ncluding starting small businesses of their own'

Obama and Clinton want to tax small business to death. Trust me, I live in NY and have borne the wrath of Clinton's tax policies. Obama would be even worse.

'Instead of a rebate, declare a one-month moratorium on collection of FICA/payroll taxes, and let people get their hands that 7.65 percent of wages RIGHT AWAY'

What about the defect and the national debt that you love to crow about?

'to offset heating bills and to go out and buy things.'

Up hill, in the snow, both ways... cue the violin music.

'such as Norman Ornstein'

Who the hell cares what Norman Ornstein says about anything?

'The biggest news of the record $3-trillion-plus federal budget that President Bush plans to propose to Congress on Monday may be the potential deficit that comes with it. '

Gee, perhaps that rebate isn't such a great idea? Perhaps the Democratic controlled congress, which controls spending should say no to this whole thing instead of pandering? Naah, that would take guts (Something that they are completely without) and they are trying to buy their way out of a 12% approval rating. Heck, even your scapegoat has a higher approval rating then they do.

'After years of White House boasting that it is getting the deficit under control –'

Congress controls spending, not the white house. See what happens when the democrats get in?

'The president, who refrained from vetoing any spending bills when Republicans ran Congress, also is wielding the veto pen with a new vengeance now that Democrats are in control – promising to veto any spending bill that doesn’t cut the “earmarks’’ that members of Congress like to send home in half.'

Good, maybe he will veto this useless waste of money.

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To PBFeb 3rd, 2008 - 23:27:45

'The only thing dropping faster is dum-dum's intelligence, what little of it there is.'

Not really a rebuttal, as usual, idiot.

'Unlike 2001 when the threat was deflation, the threat today is INFLATION, which limits what the Fed can do in terms of policy.

Moderate inflation is much preferable to deflation, it has the benefit of making our debt worth less in real dollars. If the dollar were deflating our debt would be growing in worth compared to the price of the money that we borrowed. All that is economics 101. No wonder you do not know it.

'OPEC is already looking to reduce oil output in expectation of an economic slowdown, '

Good of them, since they are the actual cause of this economic slowdown.

'Meanwhile, Exxon made a profit of $40 billion, because they are NOT investing enough in oil exporation or energy alternatives.'

The democrats won't let them drill in Alaska or off shore. That is why our money has to go to foerign countries at OPEC rates. There is enough domestic oil in the USA, both in Alaska and the lower 48 to last us a hundred years but we can't touch it because it might kill a porcupine caribou and cause 'global warming (TM)'.

' This is a good metaphor for the top 5 percent of earners who profited from Bush's tax policy -'

Typical of you, you keep repeating that same BS figure over and over as if it were truth. You are an inveterate liar pb.

' Perhaps providing the smoking gun indicating that the nation's economy has entered a recession,'

A recession is 2 continual quarters of contraction. We have NOT entered a recession, it has yet to be proven we are in a contraction.

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You are just embarrassing yourself.Feb 3rd, 2008 - 23:49:46

' I do not resent your country. I abhor it. I do not hate your country. I have absolutely no use for it. '


Main Entry:
ab·hor Listen to the pronunciation of abhor

: to regard with extreme repugnance : loathe

synonyms see 'hate'

Abhor means 'hate'... moron. Try to learn the language before using it.

So you 'hate' my country (or you say you do to get a little attention because you are a desperate loser) and you are advocating for Clinton or Obama. Telling.

' There was, also, no advice as to how to vote,'

Again, you have a problem expressing yourself. This:

'No, elect either Clinton or Obama.'

Is considered 'advice as to how to vote'. Bad advice, from a resentful twit who hates the USA.

'IF, and that is a huge IF, you had a brain you would see that I am not advocating fo[sic] any particular candidate.'

No, for a particular party. You see, you said: 'elect either Clinton or Obama.'... Right idiot?

'If you had one iota of intelligence, you would see that I am not advocating for the democrats either,'

Oh no? What was this whole: 'elect either Clinton or Obama' thing? Backpedal much? Cowardly idiot?

'Read it again.'

I did, I reread the part where you said you 'abhor' (hate, remember?) the USA and you want us to 'elect either Clinton or Obama', presumably because you think they will run it in to the ground. (Even a stopped clock is right twice a day)

'And then go load your gun. '

Which one?

'You are the type of inbred, brain-dead, mother-effing hillbilly I was referring to- shooting before thinking'

Well, coming from someone who barely knows how to use the English language I don't really feel all that injured by that. So who should we elect again? Since you obviously want the best for us?

'now do the Amercan[sic] thing and shoot someone you don't even know.'

Oh yeah, this rocket scientist wants us to ''elect either Clinton or Obama''... Remember that this election day. :-D

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JFK was a lousy presidentFeb 3rd, 2008 - 23:53:35

'JFK became shot just as his lameness was about to become apparent.'

The Berlin Wall, The Vietnam war, the Bay of Pigs, bringing the country closer to nuclear war then it ever has been and leaving us LBJ...


You are exactly right Noharness.

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Back @You are just embarrassing yourself.Feb 4th, 2008 - 00:50:12

You just spent the 3 hours and 37 minutes between my post and yours, looking up the meanings of words in an on-line dictionary. It is most unfortunate that you used an american slanguage dictionary. Did you have George Bush try to explain the meanings to you? That would be a farce - a moron trying to teach an idiot. If you had used an English language dictionary, you would have known the meanings of the words I was using. Back to your pig sty, boy. You're shooting your mouth off, and like Nohatness and SPfool, all that is coming out is crap.

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dear waste of timeFeb 4th, 2008 - 01:14:31

'You just spent the 3 hours and 37 minutes between my post and yours, looking up the meanings of words in an on-line dictionary.'

Nope, I am living a life. You ought to get one. If you were actually to go out and get a life you wouldn't have to sit in your mothers basement hitting 'refresh' just to get laughed at for being an idiot. Then again, if you weren't an idiot you would probably already have a life.

'It is most unfortunate that you used an american[sic] slanguage[sic] dictionary.'

Websters online. It isn't their fault that you are a moron.

'Did you have George Bush try to explain the meanings to you? '

Another brilliant retort.

'That would be a farce - a moron trying to teach an idiot.'

I would bet that even Bush knows what the word 'abhor' means, but regardless, he isn't involved in this conversation. That is just demonstrative of your infantile outlook that you have to point to your scapegoat whenever you have been shown to be an idiot. Even if Bush were a 'moron' would that somehow make you smarter? Not according to the idiotic rants you have posted here.

'If you had used an English language dictionary, you would have known the meanings of the words I was using.'

So are you trying to say that 'abhor' isn't synonymous with 'hate' in the English language? God you are an idiot. Why are you trying to pass yourself off as 'English' anyway? You do not use British spelling. (Yes, idiot, they spell things differently over there. You just spell them wrong in any language.) Do you think that would have given you some sense of legitimacy? Wrong again, idiot.

'Back to your pig sty, boy.'

'Pig sty'...LOL! I wouldn't have an illiterate fool like you as my doorman. (Door girl) Hell, I wouldn't have you as my doormat.

' You're shooting your mouth off, and like Nohatness and SPfool, all that is coming out is crap.'

Such an adult. You should look up 'psychological projection' along with 'abhor', idiot...

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@dear waste of timeFeb 4th, 2008 - 01:44:00

You say; 'Hell, I wouldn't have you as my doormat.'
You couldn't afford me. But I hear SP4 is available and likes it rough and bareback. He even calls it dinner. That explains the crap coming out of his mouth. I bet the same thing applies to you.
Go do the ameikan thing, boy, go shoot your neighbor. Get some of that angry aggessiveness out. If you quit smoking Crack, you might calm down a bit too.

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dear waste of timeFeb 4th, 2008 - 02:08:33

'You couldn't afford me.'

Well you just admitted that you are for sale which makes you a whore. No wonder you are broke if that is your vocation.

'But I hear SP4 is available and likes it rough and bareback. He even calls it dinner.'

When you take your little trips in to the gutter like that it is just further conformation that you don't have anything worthwhile to say. Well done, you have completely invalidated yourself here. Once again, all that was necessary was giving you enough rope to hang yourself.

'That explains the crap coming out of his mouth.'

Again with the mouth references: 'Coming out of his mouth' and 'shooting your mouth off' and 'you shot your mouth off'... Do you use a keyboard with your mouth? I can assure you that I have not uttered a word to you. Your many references to 'crap' and 'mouth' tell me that your mental development was arrested between the 'oral' and 'anal phase' of cognitive development. No wonder you act like a petulant 2 year old. Did someone have boundary issues when you were growing up? Poor thing. Being a ranting attention whore on the internet isn't going to fix that.

'Get some of that angry aggessiveness[sic] out. '

To be honest, I can barely keep myself awake at this point. I am not 'angry'. I think you are pathetic.

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back @ dear waste of timeFeb 4th, 2008 - 02:21:26


You say: 'I think you are pathetic.'
That is the problem. You don't think. Like most americans, you merely react, in a predictable manner, to a given stimulus. Enjoy yourself, Yuckster, it's been fun watching you twist. To quote you and throw it right back to where it is more applicable: 'Being a ranting attention whore on the internet isn't going to fix that.'

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to: dear waste of timeFeb 4th, 2008 - 02:48:44

You say: 'When you take your little trips in to the gutter'

Where do you think you are, in church? Well, miss Moral Orel, M&C is not some ladies social club. If you can't stand the heat or the stench, get out of the gutter, female cur.

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LOL...Feb 4th, 2008 - 03:13:03

That is the problem.[sic] You don't think.[sic] Like most americans[sic], you merely react,[sic] in a predictable manner,[sic] to a given stimulus.

Oh well you got me, you should declare victory and move along. I reacted in a predictable manner to the idiocy that you spewed by calling you an idiot. Gee, how “American”. I am sure that you persuaded many people tonight with your clever arguments and impressed even more with your intelligent discourse.

'Enjoy yourself'

Too late.

'Yuckster'

Grow up.

'To quote you and throw it right back to where it is more applicable:'

Aaah yes, the old 'I'm rubber you are glue' tactic of debate comes out again. Did I mention that you should grow the hell up?

And this second post, the one that it took you 27 minutes to come up with. (I know that because as we have established, you have no life.)

'M&C is not some ladies social club.'

So is that your excuse for making a fool out of yourself here?

'If you can't stand the heat or the stench, get out of the gutter'

Glad to see that you acknowledge that you have only contributed 'stench' to the proceedings. Good night you phony British, illiterate, overcompensating, stupid ranting clown. I am sure you persuaded a whole bunch of people to vote for Obama this evening. :-D

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BTW PBFeb 4th, 2008 - 03:18:16

Just so you can know what the term means before you start using it.



Recession? Not Yet

By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Friday, February 01, 2008 4:20 PM PT

Economy: Recent poor data, including Friday's drop in payroll jobs, have prompted a number of economists to pronounce the U.S. is in a recession. But how can we really know for sure?

Related Topics: Economy

An old rule of thumb used by Wall Street and business alike is that two straight quarters of declining GDP is how a recession is defined. By that gauge, we're not there yet. Nor were we in 2001, when a recession was declared even though GDP fell for only one quarter.

How can this be? Wall Street doesn't decide when a recession begins. That job is done by a rather obscure think tank called the National Bureau of Economic Research.

Here's how the NBER defines it: 'A recession is a significant decline in economic activity spread across the economy, lasting more than a few months, normally visible in real GDP, real income, employment, industrial production and wholesale-retail sales.'

That's a lot to look at. Timing, as they say, is everything.

If the economy isn't slipping into a recession, it makes no sense to 'stimulate' anything. Problem is, the NBER isn't exactly prompt in declaring a downturn. By its own admission, it takes six to 18 months after a recession has begun to declare that one has started. Way too long, in other words, to craft a meaningful policy response.

Some shortcuts, however, can be used to tell if we've entered a recession. The best is to look at key monthly data. Friday's jobs report, for example, showed payrolls shrank 17,000 in January, the first drop in 53 months. Though the jobless rate dipped to 4.9% from 5%, the longer-term trend appears to be up. Worse, the aggregate hours index — a very good coincident indicator for the economy — fell sharply.

Based on these nasty developments — along with soaring oil prices, crashing housing markets and gloomy consumers — many are convinced we already are in a recession or soon will be. They include former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers, ex-Fed chief Alan Greenspan and a number of influential Wall Street investment houses. As we've noted before, the Intrade.com futures market puts the likelihood of a recession this year at over 60%.

Case closed? Maybe not.

Congress' Joint Economic Committee, leaning heavily on the work of economists Marcelle Chauvet and Jim Hamilton, recently created an Employment Recession Probability Index that uses changes in jobless claims and the unemployment rate. It has predicted every recession since World War II.

What's it show today? Believe it or not, the likelihood the U.S. was in recession in January was 6% — down from 35.5% in December.

So, yes, we've hit a slow patch. But no, despite the bleatings of a media establishment eager for 'change' in Washington, we're not in a recession yet.

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To the (sic) puppy.Feb 4th, 2008 - 03:25:28

Quote: 'LOL...Feb 4th, 2008 - 03:13:03

That is the problem.[sic] You don't think.[sic] Like most americans[sic], you merely react,[sic] in a predictable manner,[sic] to a given stimulus. '

For your further edification (sic) is a term meaning Spelling In Copy. If you have a problem with the spelling, then perhaps you should go back to school, starting with grade one. Seeing as how you are so (sic), go see a doctor. I think that they can cure the (sic)-ups.

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Goodnight to the (sic) puppyFeb 4th, 2008 - 03:31:34

You say: ' Good night you phony British'
Typical backwoods Yank, jumping to conclusions without any facts. I never said I was British. Just another assumption from another american a*s hole.

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Wrong again, moron!Feb 4th, 2008 - 03:37:15

LOL!

'For your further edification (sic) is a term meaning Spelling In Copy. If you have a problem with the spelling, then perhaps you should go back to school, starting with grade one. Seeing as how you are so (sic), go see a doctor.'

WRONG.... :-D

'Sic is a Latin word, originally sicut [1] meaning 'thus', 'so', 'as such', or 'just as that'. In writing, it is placed within square brackets and usually italicized—[sic]—to indicate that an incorrect or unusual spelling, phrase, punctuation, and/or other preceding quoted material has been reproduced verbatim from the quoted original and is not a transcription error.'

ONCE AGAIN: 'to indicate that an incorrect or unusual spelling, phrase, punctuation' YOU IDIOT. (LOL!)

Once again, all that is necessary to show you to be a complete fool is to give you an opportunity to make a fool out of yourself. Thanks for the laughs, clown.

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Go to bed fool.Feb 4th, 2008 - 03:43:43

'I never said I was British.'

Nope, you just call people 'yanks' and 'Americans' yet you do not use the British (or commonwealth) spelling. I wonder if you have the word 'POSER' in your dictionary?

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MachellFeb 4th, 2008 - 03:54:06

Thanks, guys, for my entertainment for the evening - almost as good as the Super Bowl was!!

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@ the angry, idiotic yank, with the (sic)nessFeb 4th, 2008 - 04:28:27

You postulate that I am a poser? Wrong again. I pose nothing. You ass-ume, again. ByTthe words I use would only seem unusual to an uneducated bufoon, such as yourself. Keep it up, boy, you are entertaining. By the way in an earlier post, you said this: 'Oh well you got me, you should declare victory and move along.' It appears that all you yankee doodles are interested in is winning. That seems to be your raison d'etre. There is no winning or losing here, fool. There is just the game, and you are losing at it, in spite of the previous sentence. As for moving along, your thought processes move at the rate of paristalsis. Digest that for a while and see what sort of crap you come up with.

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To the (sic)-oFeb 4th, 2008 - 04:41:19

You do seem to have a problem understand english spellings, For examples: problem[sic] think [sic] americans[sic], react[sic] manner[sic]
Do you have a dictionary? Or are you some illiterate backwater jerk using some faulty spell-check programme from Microsnot?

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Frank to MacellFeb 4th, 2008 - 05:20:41

Yeah, it was better than the game was until late in the Fourth. Some turn around. I tired to figure out what was going on here. It seem as if some dude made a comment and then some anal retentive twit couldn't understand it and tried to show up the first guy. It's been back and forth ever since. Anal retentive hasn't been able to get a handle on the first guy at all. So, the score as far as I am concerned is First Guy-3, Anal Retentive-0. I think I've seen these two go at it before. It sure beats the heck out of watching cops do ethnic profiling on out of state drivers.

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