US researchers open up world's largest Holocaust archive

who cares?Jan 18th, 2008 - 02:09:38

I don't. I am so sick and tired of hearing about the jewish holocaust. If they want to sit shiva for the rest of time, then they can do it in their time, not mine. I prefer to think about the over 100 million of all races that died in the wars and famines and pandemics of the 20th century - a holocaust for all humanity. By the way, I am not a jewish holocaust denyer, but historical, archival evidence indicates that it was far less than the 6 million dead jews, that keeps getting thrown in our faces. Propoganda by the Zionists does nothing to earn them any sympathy or respect. It merely opens them up for more abuse.

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tonny from belgiumJan 18th, 2008 - 08:48:58

The posters demonstrate the need for the memorial by their comments .Antisemitism is still not deaed .However antizionism is a different matter .Zionism on itself is a racist ideology nrsurlting in the theft of the palestininan land by colonist who claim their bronze age cook give them etarnal rights to a piece of land where they were not even born .As such it is the source of all conflicts in the Middle East .Imagine for a second of thejews claimed a god given right to posses the USA,started colonizing and claiming it had to be a pure jewish state.How would you react ?

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to tonny from who cares?Jan 18th, 2008 - 15:51:20

Didn't you read? I said I am not anti-semitic. I am anti-bullcrap. I am sick and tired of having something thrown in my face as if I am responsible. There is also something very wrong with the statistics used. Yes, it is a tradgedy, for the jews, but it is small potatoes compared to the larger human tragedy of the 20th century. (Why don't we have memorials to that?) A tragedy that is continuing in the 21st century. By the way, the semititic races includes the Akkadians, Canaanites, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and Arabs.

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CharlesJan 18th, 2008 - 19:48:16

Tonny,

'Antisemitism is still not deaed'

A couple millenia of antisemitism is the very justification for 'zionism.' If jews were not oppressed by individuals/ groups/ governments in an effective, brutal, and coordinated fashion for the last couple thousand years, then there would be no zionism.

You can be sure that jews are less interested in memorials, than in having a place they can call home and not be dependent upon anyone elses fickle good graces for their survival. I can totally appreciate their position.

Anytime a jew sees a charicature of a hook nosed greedy 'jew' - or reads the inhuman and murderous conspiracy rants that have been published over and over for hundreds of years, you can be sure that 'Israel' becomes that much more sweet and dear in their hearts. Expecting them to give it up is unrealistic and trying to take it away could be apocolyptic for many.

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tonny from belgiumJan 19th, 2008 - 14:21:13

Stealing the land of the palestinians is no solution for anti-semitism at all.I understand that zionism is born out of pogroms and persecution .I just think the solution is unfair to the people living in Palestine for at least a millenia .Suddenly colonists from Europe invade the country claiming it belongs to them on account of a bronze age religion book,claiming jews are god's favorite tribe and all the rest of the world are less valuable .Sorry,but the solution to anti-semitism as practiced now in Israel is not working ,the Middle East turned into a powder keg and the whole world became unstable .Definitely a solution that gives the Palestinians the land that was stolen from them after 1967 is the only option .

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CharlesJan 21st, 2008 - 20:10:43

'I just think the solution is unfair to the people living in Palestine for at least a millenia'

But that is far fewer than the people complaining/fighting today. I also think it is unfair and strange that the arabs shedding crocodile tears so profusely for their 'Palestinian' brothers should force them to live in squalid refugee camps.

Many of the immigrants to 'Palestine' came with or after the first waves of zionists. Also, many who were already there were nomads who had no set 'homeland.' Arabs who were forced out should be compensated in some way. So should jews who were forced out of arab lands. Let's make a big spreadsheet. What about victims who were killed? How far back do we go? You can be pretty sure that muslims who built a mosque right on top of the jews most sacred temple knew well what they were doing. That's 'old school.'

The Brits who controlled the mandate split the country (whose borders they drew) and gave 75-80% to arabs. That is now called Jordan. The rest - including the west bank - was intended for jewish homeland. The Brits and other Europeans arbitrarily divided up much of middle east and created entire countries. I agree they didn't do the best job but in the case of Palestine Mandate, it wasn't so unreasonable.

'Definitely a solution that gives the Palestinians the land that was stolen from them after 1967 is the only option'

Why is that the 'only' option? Remember - the land was Egyptian, Jordanian, and Syrian occupied territory. It wasn't 'Palestinian.'

I say compensate the innocent people with reasonable claims on both sides , and get over it.

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