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Republican Huckabee draws line with Bush on Iraq
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on about people's conections. Why doesn't he get on Bush's case about his connections to Saudi (arab) oil money? He also keeps moaning and groaning about a rumored connection between Obama and the coal people. This was a lie coming from the Murdoch 'news' empire. Murdoch is a neo-nazi from Australia. Anybody who believes anything coming from a kangaroo diddler is a fool. What would be wrong with having ties to the coal industry anyway? It is a commodity that is used in making steel and electricity. It can also be used to make automobile fuel. The Germans did that back in WW2. It is a needed resource. It is less dangerous than nuclear power, which can only create electricity and glowing holes
RE:'Now that we have heard from the warmongers, how about talking about the other side of the coin? How about peaceful co-existance as the most important issue of the rest of the millenium?'
You haven't been listening to what Al Zawahiri or Hamas or the Muslim Brotherhood, have you? Peaceful co-existence is not an option if the other side is bent on your destruction. Ron Paul has got this one so wrong that it is isn't funny. Would that he were using his head on this issue, I would support him. I would support him even though I dislike some of his other ideas.
The big huckster has just about gone through his 15 minutes. The Republicant's slime machine will take care of him if he keeps showing up in the top 3. Guiliani or McCain are the only ones acceptable to the machine (if you think that slime-ball Rove has gone anywhere, think again).
Romney needs to save his money, he is out! The fact that he is a Morman is not a problem, the fact that he has flip-flopped more than a catfish is his undoing. The bible thumpers will figure out how to accept the two top dogs, but in the end to no avail. The same old same old, is not going to be elected this year.
Everything in the Republicant's playbook is identical to our resident 'lame duck' SP4. Same old crap everyday without evidence of any truth. The Republicant's have absolutely nothing left to run on. It really appears that Iraq may be their strong point, but the only thing needed to knock that out of the air is the question 'why didn't we send in enough troops to begin with' and maybe we would have only lost 1000 troops instead of 4000 (and counting).
Stuck in one groove, and scratched when you play him.
That word 'libnazi' somehow makes it frequently into SP4's posts, as well as other general detrimental remarks about an entire party, and millions of Americans. That's an ignorant bigot at work.
www.google.com/search?q=libnazi+sp4&num=20&hl=en&safe=off&filter=0
That's exactly the basis of bigotry that Black Americans endured for years - a gross characterization as a race, rather than seeing them as individuals. Obama is a sign of change; in part because he's not calling himself a 'victim', but is trying to bring everyone TOGETHER.
SP4, demigod that he pictures himself, tries to further break us apart through innuendo, invective, and misinformation.
I've called Bush an imbecile, and at the same time praised McCain for his essential honesty, although I disagree with his Iraq stance. Giuliani is actually dangerous, as he's a phony making big bucks off 9/11 with his own privately held companies, and dealing with some convicted stock swindlers as legal advisor. Romney is their Barbie doll - instead of changing clothes, he changes positions. He gives 'plastic' a bad name.
Huckabee's Iowa win reflects that state's bible-belt positions, but it won't work in New Hampshire - perhaps, in South Carolina. I can guarantee it won't work in New York, Illinois, or California. The GOP realizes that they cannot win the Presidency with him, and will sabotage him, one way or another. That gives McCain a real shot at the GOP nomination; but he's tethered to Bush on the war, so he loses the Independents.
We keep hearing about change. That's the same word the current Congress used to win in 06. That and how bi-partisian they would be. Can anyone spell out all the change & bi-participantship that has occurred?
The transcript is not published, but Huckabee got trapped on his own words, numerous times. Nice guy, but no President. Romney is just a kiss-ass who will do anything for a vote.
Excerpts:
www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=azM9gMPkrFRA&refer=home
Clashing over Iraq, Huckabee and Romney picked up where they left off at last night's debate in Manchester, New Hampshire.
Huckabee, who criticized ``the Bush administration's arrogant bunker mentality'' in an article for the journal Foreign Affairs, said on ABC's ``This Week'' that he was talking about the president's advisers, not President George W. Bush.
``I did not say the president was arrogant,'' Huckabee said. ``I've been more supportive of George Bush than some of the people who criticized me.''
Romney, who followed Huckabee on ABC, said his opponent was ``simply wrong.''
``To say that there have been mistakes, to say that the war has not been conducted perfectly is totally appropriate,'' Romney said. ``But to say this president acted out of arrogance or out of a bunker mentality is simply wrong. He kept us safe.''
www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1694441-2,00.html
Not that all the Sunni fighters want to join the Iraqi army or police. Many regard al-Maliki's government as a puppet of Iran--as loathsome as al-Qaeda or more so. In some Sunni neighborhoods, former insurgents who patrol the streets alongside U.S. troops regard the Iraqi forces as the enemy. When the Americans leave, they expect to be fighting against government forces. Abu Abid, a former insurgent who now helps guard the Amiriya neighborhood, has no illusions about how things will pan out. 'After [we] defeat al-Qaeda, the government will come after me,' he says. 'The government, they hate us. They don't want to reconcile with us.'
Al-Maliki is also openly contemptuous of the Sunni political class, which he views as weakened because it can no longer use the threat of violence as leverage in negotiations. 'The terror arm is not working for them, and their political influence is becoming insignificant,' an adviser to the Prime Minister told TIME. So al-Maliki has been able to run roughshod over the Sunnis in his notionally all-party government. Vice President Tariq al-Hashimi, the government's highest-ranking Sunni, frequently complains that he doesn't get a fair hearing. '[Al-Hashimi] is losing a lot of ground,' the adviser said. Al-Maliki's Shi'ite inner circle tends to see the marginalization of Sunni politicians as a victory, but it only confirms to many Sunnis that the government is unlikely to give them any share in power.
Re:'We keep hearing about change. That's the same word the current Congress used to win in 06. That and how bi-partisian they would be. Can anyone spell out all the change & bi-participantship that has occurred?'
Absolutely nada! Nothing. Zero. Zip. Nothing. The Dear Speaker let her new job go to her head and she decided to play 'shadow president', without having the good sense to stay in the shadows. Now the whole of the Democrat Party is paying the piper for her hubris. Oh, and our Dear Majority Leader Reid sort of blew out his shorts at the same time. The Demmmies have placed themselves in a position where they are UNABLE to compromise without alienating the money that supports them. The real brains in the Pelosi Regime, Tom Lantos, is not running for re-election. This leaves the Dear Speaker in more trouble than anyone can imagine. She isn't exactly the sharpest knife in the Democrat's drawers.
Fortunately, the Goopers have rid themselves of the worst of their dullards, Dennis Hastert is bye-bye as is Trent Lout--er--Lott.
We really do need a group of legislators who will stop posing for the cameras long enough to get something done, but I am NOT holding my breath on that one. There is no way to tell what the next Congress will look like. I think there will be a long night of the knives at the polls this time, but who will be replaced by whom is anyone's guess. I haven't heard from the newsies how many congresscritters are facing primary battles this time out. As disgusted as the American people are with them, you would think that a fair number of them would be in just that sort of pickle.
The Obama-Bunning Coal-to-Liquid Promotion act of 2006? Rumored? He sponsored the bill for shrissakes!
The guy is a wag for the coal industry! Personally, more power(!) to him, but it sure is funny that these, yes, libazis who are pimping global warming have not mentioned it!
'Stuck in one groove, and scratched when you play him.'
OH MY GOD! Such hypocrisy! From the frigging Charlie Babbet of Bush derangement syndrome. Someone who CAN NOT SHUT UP AND WILL NOT CHANGE THE SUBJECT! You have a hell of a nerve calling anyone else broken record.
'That word 'libnazi' somehow makes it frequently into SP4's posts, as well as other general detrimental remarks about an entire party, and millions of Americans.'
You are not an American you scumbag. You have rooted for our enemies and disparaged those who are trying to keep us free and safe. You forfeited your right to consider yourself as such the moment you decided to root for an al Qaeda victory here. Get the hell out you parasite.
'That's an ignorant bigot at work.'
You certainly can dish it out, but you can't take it you big cry baby.
'You haven't been listening to what Al Zawahiri or Hamas or the Muslim Brotherhood, have you? Peaceful co-existence is not an option if the other side is bent on your destruction.'
There are nuts on both sides. That should not stop the effort. With you yankee's, it seems to be shoot and bomb first and then try the diplomatic thing over the dead bodies.
RE:' There are nuts on both sides. That should not stop the effort. With you yankee's, it seems to be shoot and bomb first and then try the diplomatic thing over the dead bodies.'
Ahem! I am NOT a Yankee. Negotiating over the bodies is something that we learned to be necessary after dealing with Europe for a few centuries. In this particular case, the necessity is rather larger than usual. We are dealing with religious fanatics who model their ideology on NAZISM with Islam as its religious underpinnings.
Clearly, you do not like that and you are certainly welcome to your opinion. Just bear and mind that you and the fanatics for whom you have such deep sympathies should be happy that we have not, so far, treated with them the way we did the NAZIS. Pray that doesn't change. Were I in charge, that is EXACTLY what would happen. I have no sympathy whatsoever for this type of yard ape and even less sympathy for your foolish sensibilities.
'Ahem! I am NOT a Yankee.'
If it quacks like a duck, if it walks like a duck, if it looks like a duck, then it is a duck, yank.
'...you and the fanatics for whom you have such deep sympathies...'
I have no sympathy for fanatics of any stripe. Like all neocons, you assume things and put words in people's mouths.
Like all inbread, braindead, hillbillies, you are the yard ape here, sunshine. It is idiots like yourself who will not give the only real alternative a chance. Go sit on an IED, cannon fodder. I sincerely hope that you sit right next to a vehicle from Happy Jihad One-Way Truck Rentals, when it goes off. That is what you warmongers deserve and indeed, have earned.
'I am not a yankee.' What is he then some Jack Daniels swilling southern baptist retard?
That Spfool goes on and on about his imaginary libnazi press? But what else could be expected from an idiot who thinks that FOX is an unbiased news outlet.
...unfortunately, all of your rantings still does not make me wrong.
By the way, you're the perfect example of a libnazi.
RE:''I am not a yankee.' What is he then some Jack Daniels swilling southern baptist retard?'
I just hate to spoil your stereotype. I am from Texas, a confirmed atheist and prefer a good scotch to any of the bourbons.
RE:'If it quacks like a duck, if it walks like a duck, if it looks like a duck, then it is a duck, yank.'
I see. So what am I to make of you then? Are you yet another English Oaf on a motorcycle or is that you simply wish you could attain such status?
RE;'I have no sympathy for fanatics of any stripe. Like all neocons, you assume things and put words in people's mouths.'
Hmm, I seriously doubt that I qualify as a 'neo-con' to tell you the truth. I very much doubt they like the things I say and write about them. At least when I encounter one of them they exhibit a few traces of manners. You, on the other hand, do not appear to be house trained.
RE:'Like all inbread, braindead, hillbillies, you are the yard ape here, sunshine.'
And you are running about, beating your breast and banging pots together like chimpanzee. I must admit that it is most impressive display, but hardly what anyone would call communicative--beyond demonstrating hostility.
RE:It is idiots like yourself who will not give the only real alternative a chance.'
What real alternative, dimbulb? Shall we use harsh language on them the way you do me? Do you REALLY think that will work?
RE:Go sit on an IED, cannon fodder. I sincerely hope that you sit right next to a vehicle from Happy Jihad One-Way Truck Rentals, when it goes off. That is what you warmongers deserve and indeed, have earned.'
I'll pass, thanks. My policy has always been to make the other guy die for HIS cause. I prefer living for mine. I know you will resent that, but you do not appear to be particularly rational.
'...unfortunately, all of your rantings still does not make me wrong.'
No, SPfool, you make yourself wrong.
It also says this: 'By the way, you're the perfect example of a libnazi.'
The idiot sure knows how to hurt a guy. He knows nothing of my politics, and yet he believes that has me pegged. Is clairevoyance another one of his 'gifts'? I guess anybody who is not SPfool is a libnazi. I am beginning to think that SPfool is a figment of his own psychotic imagination.
Noharness just stated that he is from texas. Another idiot in other words, just like the current Presidunce. Samuel Clemens, better known as Mark Twain, said this of the texan: 'Ah, yes, the texan. The texan is the lowest form of humanity.' That puts those arabs, that you love to hate, higher on the human scale. I bet that just sticks in your craw, doesn't it, boy. That puts you below those negroes, that you just love to execute in your prisons, too. How is life down there at the bottom, boy? Things looking up for you? That admission that he is from texass explains why he loves to kill things, or gloat at their being killed. It is the only way that he will ever get to the top of the food chain.
'a good scotch.'
That must mean he enjoys the product of Scotland. No other country in the world makes anything near as good. If he is referring to that yankee pisswater, then he has absolutely no taste whatsoever. By the way, boy, Scotch is spelled with a capital S, if you are talking about the real thing.
RE:'Noharness just stated that he is from ... It is the only way that he will ever get to the top of the food chain.'
Have you considered what these little rants say about you? Do you really expect to sway anyone's opinion with this drivel? Oh, I do understand you have no hope of persuading me, I already understand the level of your thinking ability, but do you really hope that you are accomplishing anything useful with your time when you post these kinds of messages? Tonny is far better at offering insult and English seems to be his second or third language.
Oh, wait! Now I get it. You are the sort of exhibitionist who likes to vent his spleen in public places. It makes you feel manly does it? Well, by all means have at it. Now that I understand what your about I know not take you seriously.
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