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! ! ! !Jan 4th, 2008 - 17:11:54

Huckebee better enjoy his victory while he can - it won't last!!!!

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SP4: You know....Jan 4th, 2008 - 18:05:19

Ol Huckabee looked pretty dan good on TV today. Granted, this was his stronghold, but nonetheless, ol Jim had a good outing.

Obama really shined too. Most of all his pulling in of young voters and independents, something Crintons people always brag about, but never deliver, was really impressive!

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SP4 goes schizo on usJan 4th, 2008 - 18:44:34

Check what this loony bin has to say about Obama on:

news.monstersandcritics.com/usa/news/article_1384560.php?compage=20&com count=30&comlimit=10

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What happens when GOP goes cannibal?Jan 4th, 2008 - 18:50:17

The GOP has a bad habit of turning nasty and eating their own, as Bush did to McCain in 2000. I doubt that Huckabee will be an acceptable candidate to the hard right because of his (alleged) tax policies, as well as the pardons. When this gets really nasty (and it WILL) Giuliani will be in his element; but still his 'social' positions are unacceptable to the hard-right. The question now is whether Romney's money is enough to give him any footing in other states, and whether the honorable guy on the GOP side, McCain, can get past being 71 years old and rigid on Iraq, when the public is sick and tired of the entire episode.

There's a real chance of a recession in 2008, and between the mortgage mess, higher oil prices, and job insecurity, the GOP has plenty of other problems to explain away.

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????Jan 4th, 2008 - 19:19:04

Why would anyone want to take on the job of trying to straighten out the mess of the Bush administration?

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SP4: went thereJan 4th, 2008 - 19:51:31

...didn't see anything to paint him a loonie....

but then again, you liberals do this all the time

Here's th liberal mantra for their opposition

Stupid - (bbush before 2000)

Crazy - (Bush - 2004 after he beat the smart guy!)

Radical - Bush now, because you missed on the other two.

0 out of 3 and now you start on Huckabee.

Now, me, I don't think the dems are stupid, generally anyway, but they ARE:

Crooked (anything related to the Clintons)

Ignorant - (Biden)

Duplicitous - (all)

Naive' - (Obama)

Bigoted - (all)

unhappy ( Hillary)

Snobs -(Kerry, Kennedy, wives)

Pseudo-Intelectual (Clintons, Kerry)

But,No, they are not dumb.

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PperfectJan 4th, 2008 - 20:00:34

SP4...thank you again for making the right wing of this country look so bad. You are a great example of the idiots over there, and can only help the left wing take the country over. Thanks again!!

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SP4 discovers the dictionaryJan 4th, 2008 - 20:04:28

(Next, I recommend the spell checker)

The GOP's next problem is smack in front of them since even service jobs are declining, and a side benefit of a Democratic sweep might be SP4's going into hibernation for another 8 years, hanging upside down in his cave:

www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aqz8NTw6DVWo&refer=home

Jan. 4 (Bloomberg) -- Hiring in the U.S. slowed more than forecast in December and unemployment jumped to a two-year high, raising the odds that the Federal Reserve will cut interest rates by half a point this month to ward off a recession.

Payrolls rose by 18,000, capping the worst year for job creation since 2003, the Labor Department said today in Washington. The jobless rate increased to 5 percent from 4.7 percent in November, while the Institute for Supply Management said growth in U.S. service industries cooled last month.

Excluding a gain in government jobs, payrolls fell last month for the first time since July 2003, hurt by losses in manufacturing, construction and the retail industry.

``This tells you that the strains from credit problems and so forth that have been developing the last six months are starting to bite and they're biting in a way that now finally draws consumption into question,'' said Neal Soss, chief economist at Credit Suisse Group Inc. in New York.

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SP4 says Dem's are BIGOTED???Jan 4th, 2008 - 20:13:19

Hysterical, based on the actions of the Fundamentalist right wing against gays. This jerk just made comments about Obama's 'blackness', by the way ...

Who passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964? When did schools get desegrated? How about the EEOC, which came into being along with the Civil Rights Act?

From the EEOC's own site:

www.eeoc.gov/abouteeoc/35th/pre1965/index.html

' ... on June 19, 1963, President Kennedy sent comprehensive civil rights legislation to Congress. Although opposition within the Congress was fierce, the need for civil rights legislation to address growing unrest in the country held sway. In August 1963, approximately 250,000 Americans of all races marched in Washington, D.C. in front of the Lincoln Memorial. The event, marked indelibly into the psyche of the nation by the famous 'I Have A Dream' speech of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. came to symbolize the irresistible insistence for meaningful legislation to address the demand for racial equality and justice. This need, together with the mobilization of the civil rights and labor organizations and strong Presidential leadership, coalesced. The result, on July 2, 1964, was the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. It was to become effective one year later.'

'Five days after the (Kennedy) assassination, while the nation was grieving its terrible loss, President Johnson eloquently invoked that tragedy in an effort to give some meaning to that most senseless of acts. President Johnson, addressing a joint session of Congress, stated:

We have talked long enough in this country about civil rights. It is time to write the next chapter and to write it in the books of law . . . . No eulogy could more eloquently honor President Kennedy's memory than the earliest possible passage of the civil rights bill for which he fought so long.

Civil rights leaders, initially distrustful of President Johnson, soon came to recognize him as an ally and worked closely with him to ensure the Act's successful passage. Many legislative battles forced concessions and compromises to avoid a Senatorial filibuster that threatened to kill the entire Civil Rights Act.'

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964



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SP4: I sure didJan 4th, 2008 - 22:46:54

...you're bigoted when it comes to republicans.

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tonny from belgiumJan 4th, 2008 - 23:49:07

Wonderful logics SP4.The word bigot designates a person that exaggerates in his religious behavior ,in such a manner as to appear completely insincere and ridiculous .Moliere was one of the first to mock them.What exactly has this all to do with the criticizing of the republicans...taking some liberties with your own language in order not to look like an idiot.Stop embarrassing yourself for once,you've done more to damage Bush than I did by portraying him like a toddler that plays childgames with congress and acts like a child .Was that realy your purpose ?

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@SP4Jan 5th, 2008 - 01:29:14

What a complete and total idiot.

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Tired of itJan 5th, 2008 - 04:34:24

All these comments anymore are just critical remarks back and forth between SP4 and whoever, and very seldom even pertain to the article at hand...........boring!

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@ tired of itJan 5th, 2008 - 04:48:14

If you don't like it you have two choices. First you can quit visiting this board or second you can start a discussion with some facts (unlike SP4) and we can all sit around and discuss. Please do either, but please quit complaining.

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Tired..Jan 5th, 2008 - 16:47:33

Good advice, but you couldn't resist taking another swipe at SP4 - case in point!!

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SP4: Good!Jan 5th, 2008 - 17:06:29

My philosophy is simple: confront these boobs above and when we hit a nerve, we end up getting a moonwalk from Tonny, flitting off into pseudo-intellectualism, or insults from the other tinfoil hatted kids in mom's basement.

These are the results. Don't blame me for others posts.

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SP4: HuckabeeJan 5th, 2008 - 17:29:33

Interesting guy this Huckabee. He comes off calm, and collected. He is reassuring but authoritative. He is plain about his beliefs. He wasn't really a modern nondenominational evangelist, but a baptist minister.

If he were to win the nomination, I'm not sure he'd win, but I'd love to see the campaign!

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Mr. PayneJan 5th, 2008 - 17:48:35

Regardless of who wins the election, if they have the intelligence to do the job and also surround themselves with intelligent people who have no devious ideas and sincerely want to better the country all the way around, they should serve well. We've seen the opposite in the last 7 years, so, hopefully, there can be a turnaround! Although Bush might have wanted to better the country, he lacked the intelligence and ability to pick the right people.........sorry, SP4! Just my humble opinion for what it's worth!

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P.S.Jan 5th, 2008 - 17:51:48

The commentary back and forth here can be quite amusing and entertaining to say the least. Some commenters have some very clever comebacks - and I don't mean this in a demeaning way!

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SP4: On the Contrary, Mr. payne...Jan 5th, 2008 - 21:10:44

..if you're Prsident Bush, your measure of success comes from another yardstick. You could tell yourself you disarmed Libya, got saddam, got N. Korea to deal, have Iraq pacified, at least as much as Indonesia or Pakistan, or Iran, won 2 elections and the people who did it seemed to have succeeeded pretty damn well. You could boast record tax receipts with a tax cut, record employment numbers, record low inflation, historic high houseold wealth, record job creation and business environment.

If, however, you are a liberal, you would fail to acknowledge any of this, because it undercuts your argument that Bush killed Santa Clause. You would ignore, blindly, that you greenlighted Bush's push into Iraq, and only then, protested the fact. Then you would cry out for the dead soldiers, but object to sending more to fix their situation.

Then, realizing that, you miscalculated and underestimated the Bush resolve, you'd agree to send more troops in the blind hope he would help you by getting the job done before you have to run for office again and get the monkey off your back. Then after you helped the troops out by sending more, you'd advocate taking only some back, endangering them more.

At every turn, Mr. Bush called your bluff, which enabled him to have this war in the first place, a war that you, the liberal, made happen because Bush would get rid of Saddam for you, and then get rid of himself before 2004, by you blaming him for it!

Now recognize I do not mean YOU Mr. Payne, just the mob above.

What it comes down to is a giant game of political chicken. They assumed Mr. Not-so-Bright would act the way they imagined and he did not. We call this miscalculating, and guess who I'M referring to.

This is how wars start Mr. Payne, don't you think? Now, that being the case, go straight to Congress, find out which liberals voted for this war, and which ones of them are now wanting to be President and go ask them about it. They will tell you Bush lied to them...dumb ol Bush....just fooled them completely....and ask them why we'd want either a duplicitous asshole or another dumbass for President?

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