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Dec 9, 2007, 16:29 GMT
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Curiously, one of the biggest dissenters on forced interrogations happens to be a republican, even if he is only one in name only:
Senator John McCain. His position is unassailable. I guess that makes you, Tonny, once again-more-than-a-little-full of crap.
The thing I just love about this president is that he couldn't care less about any of this:
Intel report - suck my dick
missing tapes - suck my dick
Iraq war resolutions - suck my dick
All, while being gracious to a fault.
The libnazis decided to make an enemy and, congratulations, they got just waht they asked for.
Having foreigners single out the United States for human rights abuse is like bakers blaming diabetes on the dairymen.
Let's take a tour:
Britain - anyone want to compare notes in Iraq, or Malaysia, Northern Ireland...any takers?
Europe - ethnic cleansing in Kosovo, complete with rapes mass murder, etc., all in the last 10 to 20 years.
Asia - Pick any nation in Asia and compare it's practices with the USA. Any Nation, none will be able to pass that test.
Africa - so many examples it would be impossible to list them. One atrocity after another.
Compared to any of these places, America is a saint.
Where were all these US traitors soiling their pants when American, Korean, Italian, and British civilians and troops were butchered?
Where were all their human rights and protections under the Geneva Conventions?
Why dont they fill their underpants when westerners were videotaped and had their heads removed by muslim partisans.....defeaning silence again we see?!?!?
The muslim terrorists we have in prison should ALL be tortured, skinned alive, shot in the neck, and buried in pigparts.
You ultraleftists and muslims here say America is bad, we used torture for our entire history on fellow Americans in the civil war, War of 1812, Revolution, Spanish-American War, WW 1, WW 2, Korea, and Vietnam and NOBODY CARED!
Why do you small groups care NOW for international gangsters, muslim terrorists, jihadists, who wear civilian clothing and belong to no official army all the while as they butcher CIVILIANS whose only crime is not being muslim? They have no rights whatsoever!
We need General Patton, MarArthur, and FDR to arrest people as you and throw the key in the sewer.
It would be even better to simply deport you forever and send you out to the islamic nation of your choice.
You morons know nothing of history or the reality of war. You dont deserve to live in a free nation while attempting to undermine our national security. Things will change soon enough.
Hungarian Crusader
the reason the President doesn't care about any of that is because he just doesn't UNDERSTAND any of it!!!
I suppose forced interrogation is the newspeak neocon terminology for torture ?Like rendition is the new terminology for kidnapping .Invent new words for every abuse you commit and suddenly you enter a new unchartered territory;the neocon society in which nothing is what it seems.Nice try SP4 but no deal .The Bush administration is guilty of crimes,destruction of evidence ,all in the name of liberty,which gets raped in the process of being defended.Isn't it so ?
Lest I forget,mercenaries are now labeled security contractors,what's in a name ....
Bush is 'gracious to a fault' - someone's brain is so washed, you can see through it!!
Korea, Iran, Turkey, Iraq, Sudan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Pakistan, Japan, Ukraine, Britain, and France all guilty or torture throughout their history and even now......yes.
I guess just America can not toruture or do anything related to a war in order to defend its borders, people, troops, or interests.
If you morons KNEW history you would see Presidents Roosevelt, Washington FDR, Lincoln, Truman and Generals Eisenhower, Bradley, Patton, MacArthur all tortured and executed POW's at will and they were all troops in uniform which is something muslim terrorists ARE NOT!!!
It is just fine for muslims to butcher westerners, non-muslims, Christians, Hindus, Africans, Buddhists, animists, and atheists, 'but dont America try and do the same when seeking information on terrorist groups.'
'When you catch us you better treat us with utmost respect, lawyers, clean clothes, koran, soccer balls, and 3 delicious meals a day.'
That is not happening too much longer you bastards.
Thanks AGAIN for not answering ANY of my questions as I guess they are too historic, honest, and direct.
Leftists and muslims can not have rights and protections while denying it to westerners.
You are all cowards and that is why you can only beat women and children.
Hungarian Crusader
What is in a name you say?
We used to call them jihadists, muslim bombers, and muslim terrorists.
Now we call them MODERATE muslims?
Is that muslim jihadist terminology for a peaceful religion?
I think you are dreaming as a typical muzzie and NEOLEFTIST!!
Good try, but you fail again.
There is no such thing as a moderate muslim and never was and never will.
...except Bush never destroyed any tapes...in fact, how do we even know they existed in the first place? Were they even about any torture to begin with? Honestly, you'll believe anything.
...and isn't this the same intel community that just got done thumbing their noses at Bush? Isn't it the same one that said there were WMD's in Iraq? Isn't this the same intel community that says Iran stopped it's nuclear weapons programs even while they admit they are still enriching uranium ato weapons grade? Add that and see if it comes up four...
Now, here comes ol GW with another round of his mop and bucket...
Ol Bush sits in his office, does a couple of lines, throws back a wild turkey and must just laugh his frickin head off.
My god man you are so stupid it is amazing. What to you think you are accomplishing by saying things like:
'...except Bush never destroyed any tapes...in fact, how do we even know they existed in the first place? Were they even about any torture to begin with? Honestly, you'll believe anything.'
Freaking stupid......
'...and isn't this the same intel community that just got done thumbing their noses at Bush? Isn't it the same one that said there were WMD's in Iraq? Isn't this the same intel community that says Iran stopped it's nuclear weapons programs even while they admit they are still enriching uranium ato weapons grade? Add that and see if it comes up four...'
Really freaking stupid......
'Now, here comes ol GW with another round of his mop and bucket...'
Freaking redneck.....
'Ol Bush sits in his office, does a couple of lines, throws back a wild turkey and must just laugh his frickin head off.'
Pretty pathetic---really stupid.
You need to go out and get some real issues, get some legitimate backup, post those and have a point...then you would not appear to be a toothless, old man, redneck, no account bum.
Take a look at the New York Times front page today. (it''s a 'newspaper' ask your dad what they are) Turns out the lawyers (not Bus) who destroyed them are in the clear, legally, that is, anyway.
Another stellar example of nothing against the law here.
I guess that makes you just-a-little-more-than-full-of-crap.
'facts, they are stubborn things' - George H.W.Bush
Isn't it the same intel community that said there were WMD's in Iraq?
Were there any real torture tapes, or were they just another Washington myth?
What really was on the tapes to begin with? Who actually knows?
Isn't this the same intel community who says Iran has stopped it's bomb plans while admitting that they still are enriching uranium? What kind of logic is applied for that result?
Why do these questions make the commentor above stupid? Also, I noticed the other poster failed to answer them.
What does that make him? Stupid?
We see the liberal press scrape up another pseudo-scandal, which turns out to be nothing. Congress encouraged interrogations, the white house was not queasy about them either. Feigning outrage is, in itself, outrageous.
Again ,for those suffering from paranoia after all the attempts made by the neocons to portray a hostile image of the world to americans,there is need for clarification in this ongoing debate .To clarify the issue let me say it is not a matter of the USA against the rest of the world .That is a neocon image,twisted vision of the world .The outrage from the world joins the aversion that most americans now have against their own administration .Always 80 percent of the american people oppose Bush .So the arguments wielded by neocons are flawed,it is their last desperate effort to gain support .Make it look as if the rest of the world is opposed to America .They have forfeited all right to speak for the american people .Period .Next elections will dump them where they belong,in the garbage bin of history,together with fascism,stalinism and last but not least all fundamentalist religions desperate to impose their selfrightous opinions on others . Fundamentalist islam is part of that .It is only thanks to the stupid policy applied by the Bush administration in regard of Iraq and Israel that fundamentalist islam has gained so much momentum .It was absent in Iraq ,only to be grwoing thanks to the invasion of that country .That much is clear .The best way to deal with them is just to leave Iraq,it is the most direct and effective method .Renditions,torture and lies only makes them stronger ,as you give them arguments for recruitment.
We need President Kennedy He was:
A staunch anti-communist
Believed in covert, illegal, operations to overthrow unfriendly governments,
Wire tapping i.e. Brother Bobby taping Martin Luther King
Lowering taxes to stimulate the economy
Gee, he sounds like a real neo-con to me!
...for 30 years. We softballed Al Queda,Biero Crinton let him go...we turned our cheeks to every attack, made nice with every nation (like Saudi Arabia) made every peace overature.
The result:
911
Now, this president who thought he'd be able to live eight more years like Crinton did, suckling the fat hog and biding his time, got stuck in the middle of a train wreck a blind man could see coming.
So, in typical fashion, he gets out his mop and bucket, and starts taking out the trash. Yep, ol GW an his ol Mop, got quaddafi to drop his weapons program, got saddam out, got Kim to deal.
The dems were only too helpful, greenlighting EVERY iniative at EVERY turn, in the blind hope it would fail. (we won the peace in Iraq) and they would gain power( how's that working so far?) OL hirry Reid, signing everything off as if Bush had a dog collar on him. God, what a neocon!
Yes, Tonny, those darn neocons, who, by the way seem to believe in a LOT of the same things Kennedy did, huh?.
Why is that Tonny? Because Neocons were once Kennedy liberals, who switched when their party abandoned them.(Vietnam) I guess you missed that, being in Belgium, huh? hahahahahahaha!
...The dem congress has a 20% approval rating.
69% polled think it was a mistake to elect the current congress.
40% are now in favor of the war, even though they want it to end now.
The president has a higher approval rating than Congress.
Source: Gallup
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