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By Karyn Chenoweth Oct 5, 2007, 13:59 GMT
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What universe do these people live in? The Church-of-the-Divine-Liberal feels fine about calling Rush's syndicators but objects to Cheney calling their libnazi mouthpiece.
The neoKonKrony Krazy Klowns, aka the new KKK, will not be content until they have destroyed the republican party, and possibly the entire United States. With their evil inclination for pandering to so called christian fundamentalists who want to create Armageddon so they can supposedly go to heaven, to their intent to have goverment by baffoons, idiots, rummys and gonzos, to their mis-focused war, and assorted criminal activities, they are well on their way to succeeding. This will be their only way of
'winning' because they are a bunch of losers who can not admit they have selected losing stategies for all of their other goals.
Here's a summary of your positions as reflected in your posts on M&C.
1) You believe it to be Good that the Senate got involved and condemned the MoveOn ad ...
2) You believe it to be Wrong that the Senate got involved and made a public statement against Rush's comment.
What do you think about Cheney's thugs calling MSNC brass to alter the content of Hardball?
Presidents and their minions have been calling editors of newpapers since this republic was founded, as to content, etc.
Yes, I object to move-on's characterization of General Petraeus. It was wrong, when you consider the context. The Senate was correct to do it.
No, I do not object to Rush's comments, because he was right, when you consider the context. The Senate was wrong to do it.
Mathews is as biased as you can get and Cheney called him on it. Good for Dick. After Dan Rather's little concocted mess, I'd call every day!
You're living in a new media environment. These old libnazi apparatachicks monopoly is coming to an end.
If only he'd attend that quail hunting trip in Texas....
Wow! Can the mainstream media be waking up to the true menace to America? They can help destroy Fascism?Nazism in the good ole USA. The traditionbal Republican Party is dead--slain by those who pretended to be Conservative, but who are really Fascist's who have engineered the Largest Robbery in History of Taxpayer Dollars. Yes, your children and grandchildren will have to pay for the Fascist's 57% increase in the National debt. So, what are you doing?
Bush and his partner in crime have been winged, left winged. Nice shot Chris.
re: your comment ... 'Presidents and their minions have been calling editors of newpapers since this republic was founded, as to content, etc.'
Give me an example of where Bill Clinton did that WHILE IN OFFICE ... gimme one!
(And SP4, don't go regurgitating your rants about 'The path to 9-11' ... Clinton objected to that because it 'blatantly contradicted known facts' in the 9-11 Commision report ... IT WAS A FABRICATION OF EVENTS ... and that his objections were AFTER he was out of office, speaking on his personal behalf, no longer a standing elected official on belhalf of the American people ... as Cheney did here)
My views on the two Senate examples:
Re: MoveOn ... it's a privately funded organization, with rights to free speech ... the Senate had no place is getting involved in that ... they have better things to do.
Re: Rush's big mouth problem ... same thing ... he can say Stupid hateful things all he wants ... the Senate had better things to do.
What's next for the Senate? ... A formal proclamation saying Ronald McDonalds hair is too red?
Clinton had a press that licked his ass so much, why would HE need to debate with them?
I don't know if you are aware of this, but the mainstream liberal press slobbered like an intern over Clinton for eight years. We even used to call CNBC the Clinton National Broadcasting Corporation.
They pimped Clintonites to the public at every turn. They gave Stepanopolis a job, after they found out about his cruising for chicks in Georgetown with a spoon in his nose in a presidential limo.
They propped up Dee Dee Myers after Bill porked her. The goal was to leave these folks at the republicans backs for eight years.
Hell yes he should call them! I'd call them every f--king day! The half truths, outright lies, and fluff interivews for dems, the hammer interviews for the republicans, the constant biased reporting...I'd call them up constantly!
SP4- some advice for you.
If you want something to complain about why don't you complain about
not accomplishing the mission regarding killing or capturing the perpetrators of 9/11? Why don't you complain about the massive stategic blundering done in Iraq? Why don't you complain about the failure to win anything there, and the losses of our maimed and killed soldiers? Why don't you complain about how we are making more enemy than we had after 9/11 by our senseless actions in Iraq. Why don't you complain about us
not showing any respect to Iraq the country by creating a killing field there for 'enemy' so we don't have to kill them in Times Square, USA.
Why don't you complain about all of our resources squandered on a failed mis-adventure motivated by a mis-placed sense of revenge, and managed by
neocon idiots who have selected 'winning' stategy that guarantees that we will lose our war on terror? Why don't you complain about the massive
emptying of the taxpayers wallets on a failed mission? There is a lot to complain to the politicians about. If you want to complain at least do it in real time terms, rather than dwelling on the past.
We have not failed in capturing perps of 9/11: we are still doing it after Clinton let them GO!
It is not a wasted effort
There were no lies, only from those liberals who voted for this war and then pretend to be against it.
We don't make enemies, they DECIDE to be one. Before WWII w were ardent pacifists. We were attacked.
Our resources have not been squandered. America has a terrific economy.
we are finally fighting a war on terror(ists)that we were losing beforehand. 9/11 is living proof of the last administrations failures. They had Osami on a PLATTER and Clinton let him walk! He, not Bush, is PERSONALLY responsible for Bin ladens freedom.
Bush has, generated record employment, low inflation and record tax receipts while fighting this war. Our economy is generating record results. It is, purely, the result of Bush-driven tax cuts. It is so successful, even liberals are now talking cuts!
He has gotten Libya to de-nuclearize, gotten N. Korea to deal, deposed saddam, and put he world on notice that freedom is coming to a town near you. He has gotten out his sh-t shovel and handled the worlds dung for them. He has done all of this while being lied about and pilloried for being nothing more than a republican the party of Lincoln.
So, no, I have my own complaints.
After all, Monks in mynammar are NOT marching for 'stability'.
There he goes again.Incapable of understanding his own paranoia and contradictions SP4 is falling back on whatever he finds to throw at 'libnazis,etcnetc.What do the monks of Burma have to do with this ?Did they vote for BUsh ?
THose who defend Bush and Cheney are grasping at straws ,as the political superstructure is decaying and shaming a once proud nation and making it a mockery in the rest of the world .THe latest ridiculous feature from the Bush administration concerning the Blackwater scandal raises the absurdity to new levels ;a government security staff member will now supervise the mercenary of Backwater on his day to day mission .Wouldn't it strike a normal person as perhaps more easy to replace the Blackwater mercenary with official security staff ?Not to the Bush croneys protecting corporate interests .Soon you'll fing another Blackwater mercenary protecying the government security persoel overseeing the first Blackwater mercenary .Is Franz Kafka perhaps shareholder at Blackwater ?
SP4-
If your brother were a mass murderer wouldn't it make sense to question
you and your family members? Then you can explain why Bush let saudi
airplanes fly out of the USA, during the 'no fly' time right after 9/11, carrying lots of Osama Bin Laden's family members, before they were asked any questions? Clinton did not do it, Bush did, perhaps because the Bush
family is friends with the Bin Ladens? But you must know the correct answer since you are such a man of 'knowledge'. Can you help us link this action to Clinton?
Bush said that we would go after the 9/11 terrorists, and the countries that financed and harbored them. Perhaps you can explain why we have not attacked the feudal fundamentalist islamic theocracy ruling Saudi Arabia, the country that created al quada? How about Pakistan, a military dictatorship, which created the Taliban, stills aids al quada, hides Osama Bin Laden, and gave nuclear bomb technology to North Korea?
You want to blame someone for not preventing 9/11. I want to hold
accountable those people who promised that we would do something to those directly responsible for 9/11.
SP4-
By the way, your version of an 'ardent pacifist' USA before WW11 is a bunch of nonsense devoid of any historical reality. After WW1, and before WW11, we made military incursions into Russia, China, Guatemala, Panama, Honduras, and Nicaragua, to name some nations. The reason we were so late getting into WW11 was because there were so many nazi symphathizers in our country, like Henry Ford and Charles Lindbergh,
influence peddling their nazi perspectives that we were more asleep at the wheel than we were 'ardent pacifist' when WW11 started.
...and I suppose no one remembers calling others neo-cons...
The fact remains, and remains, and remains, that Clinton HAD Bin Laden, the perp of 9/11 ON A PLATTER! He let him walk and that is not a point of debate!
Fox finsihed a poll stating 1 in 5 democrats polled WANTED the U.S. TO FAIL IN Iraq.
This is the kind of backing our president gets.
Tonny, when your country diintegrates, le me know and I'll vouch for you...in China.
SP4 why dint you just answer the questions about the Bush-Bin Laden connection for a change .Please ?
I might see where someone other than a true pacifist, might construe such actions before WWII as war, but true pacifists would not, as they are not, completely, against defending themselves.
We had very strict laws preventing the buildup of large armies in the USA before Dec 7th, 1941. We had a congress who would NOT declare war, and we had some activities but we were as pacifist as this nation could ever get. True, we had a Navy, but it's use was severely hampered. Our 'incursions' as you call them could be construed as war, but not in the proper perspective of the era.
Roosevelt and his predecessors capitulated in the far east for 30 years. They relied on an ocean to protect them. Experts like Gen. Joseph Stilwell, considered to be the reigning expert on China in the 1930's, consistantly warned the government of impending war with Japan. Roosevelt would not go to the american public and make the case for a buildup, for political reasons.
Re: your comment 'We have not failed in capturing perps of 9/11'
Gee SP4, I must've missed the news on Osama's capture ... When did that happen?
Oh that's right. Bush 'doesn't really think about him' (Bush's own words) ... and Osama is still thumbing his nose at Bush ... more than 6yrs later!!!
ALL of Bush's attempts to get Osama have failed ... otherwise we'd have him by now.
Let me spell it slowly for ya ... Success = capture ... Failure = Not captured ...
Osama's status = Not captured ... that, SP4 = failure
Gauwd you make yourself look stupid with your obvious nonsense SP4.
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Re: your comment 'America has a terrific economy'
Laughable!
Record devaluation of the dollar against foreign currency.
Record Deficits (9,000 Billion and growing)
Declining purchasing power (real income).
And a real biggie ... Our gov'mnt would have to shut down today, if they couldn't borrow huge amounts of money from other nations.
SP4, you've made yourself a total joke with your nonsensical posts.
And yes, that makes you wrong.
SP4-
Like they say- Everything changed after 9/11.
Let's be concerned about our reaction to 9/11,
and how we go after the perpetrators of that terrorist act.
The fact is that Saudia Arabia and Pakistan had a lot more involvement with 9/11 than Iraq. Iraq basically had nothing to do with 9/11.
wow I'm reading a guy callin himself true concervitive and I'm totally with him. SP4 Liberals are the opposite to nazis. Nazis are extreme rightwing thinkers who demand that everybody do as they wish.
Sounds more like your poster-boys dick and george.
Liberty and liberal come from the same word and facist nazis are people who would prevent liberty and liberal thaught.
Go back to school and stop watching fox noise which you have quoted from today and 2 weeksago told me you never watch.
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