Clinton Has 33 Point Lead Over Obama
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By Karyn Chenoweth Oct 4, 2007, 14:58 GMT
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Woo-hoo!!! My girl's winnin'!! Keep it up Hillary. I like Obama, but you're viewpoints match mine a lot more than his do, you've got my vote.
There were people so bored in one of her appearences they were talking between themselves.
One comedian said Hillary came out against torture last year and, if she'd stop speaking she could stop the torture of listening to her.
Who does these polls?
Anyone notice that Giuliani is completely UN-Republican on 4 of their main principles?
1) He's FOR gun control ...
2) He's Pro-Choice ...
3) He's Pro-Illegal Immigration.
4) He's FOR gay rights ...
Geez ... things are so bad in the Republican party that they're choosing a guy who clearly has Liberal positions.
The Republican base is abandoning their princples, in exchange for votes and power.
Yep, it's clearly an effort to hold onto power, rather than staying true to their principles.
Comedy.
...why do you think so many of us were happy to see Thompson enter the race?
Given Obama's situation, it's too bad HE's not a republican. He'd have a better chance.
He says the states have the right to set their own marriage laws. (Dobson criticies him saying we'd have 50 different marriage laws in the US)
So in that Thompson opposes the GOP gay marriage position too ...
Yet another Un-GOP position from a Republican.
criticies should be criticizes
...IS a republican position. It's Bush who isn't on track.
In the 1980's Ed Meese was pimped to the Christian coalition to try and put a fed finger on Porn. The 'Meese Commission' prep'ed a report.
Ronald Reagan read it and said 'golly, terrific work Ed, but I just don't think the federal government has any place regulating this.'
Conservatives want smaller government. That means less regulation. That means states run themselves.
The bible thumpers and anti-abortionists have it wrong: The fed has no business regulating marriage, or abortion.
Roe V. Wade, if you actually read it, says (1) the states have no right to deny abortion, but, (2)they have every right to regulate it. Why do you think Blackmun wrote this? This is actually a CONSERVATIVE opinion! It leaves it to the states!
This way, he wouldn't then have to hear every f--king case! This is why it still stands! They don't want to be the goddam referees, every day!
Once the bible thumpers figure this out, they'll go back to the Sup Court and watch out! They will restrict and define terms of an abortion and the court will have a real decision to make: undo Roe or let the states restrict abortion like Roe says.
THAT is conservatism.
So you want the government to tell you what doctor to go to,
$ 5,000 given to every new born baby,
every opposing viewpoint silenced,
Cradle to grave care for free. UH YEAH FREE sure it is.
If you don't work, have a husband and keep shooting out kids.
But hey a lot less abortions will happen.
Maybe she will get Hugo Chavez to be her vice president. They share they same Viewpoint on oil companies: Make them do all the exploring, drilling, pumping, distributing. ANd then take all the profits.
I am a share holder as is anyone who has a 401k , oh wait you have to be a worker to have that, that leaves all rich wealthy, or poor lazy liberals out of this conversation.
Please Hillary , take my money, I know not what to do with it. You know best, help me spend it on those that truly need my money. Welfare , food stamps, government housing. You know the kind of programs that really benefit humans ability to rise up and take there place as your slaves in the voting booth. And after your elected they will be taken care of and be able to live long fruitful voting lives all universal health cared paid for by the sweat and blood of America's working class.
God Bless America.
I am so sick of everyone saying it will be free health care.
Only the people who don't earn INCOME as far as the IRS is concerned will get a free ride.
Being on welfare is insane, you can't own any land or home. You have to stay poor if you want to be free from work. I couldn't do it.
BUt I do have to pay for them and that sux.
The libs and dems allways talk about empowering people. But they keep them unmarried, poor and homeless just so they have them under control. It truly is socialized manitpulated slavery. I am really fearful for the future. I wish poor people knew that democrats want to keep them living in crappy government housing and on food stamps just so they can keep them dependent on the democrat way of life. What a crappy way to live.
And we keep enabling it.
One of you said that 50 governments instead of one equals less burocracy ?Does that make sense to anybody ?What a strange point of view .The more you federalize the LESS burocracy of course ,that is obvious .
As for health care ,it simply is a duty but more than that ,it is a right .How can tou be satisfied with a system that performs so badly,costs so much and ranks your country below average when it comes to medical statistics .What kind of principles justifies this lack of performance compared to our wealth care .If it is based on moral principles ,the kind of principles that BUsh is wielding to deny proper health care to millions of your children ,then you must be brainwashed .If it is just egoism than you are despicable .If it is ignorance than perhaps there is hope .Whichever it is ,that battle is lost .In a civilized society health is a right ,nothing to do with your personnal fortune .If you think liberty is all about casting a vote once every four years ,you are wrong ,it is much larger,it involves equal rights to health care,education,justice .
I 've got to get one more thing off my liver .One of you states that the democrats want to have the poor people stay poor so that they can control them and profir from that .Howpletetly dersperate can one be to come forward with such an absurd statement .Is that an example of republican logics ?I'd like to hear the opinion of other republican voters on that one .How could lowering income tax for the richest part and denying decent health care to the millions of children by Bush fit that picture of democrats against the poorest part of your population .Can I then say that Bush is doing a hell of a job in helping the democrats in accomplishging that wicked goal ?
If Hillary IS elected President, you might be able to keep 20 percent of your income for yourself. It might even be lower than that.
If we add national healthcare and a $5000 account for every child, just these two things will more than double your income taxes.
Remember, everything the government has to actually do, YOU have to pay for. They get their money from YOU.
PLain wrong .THe european system is both cheaper and more performing than the system you guys have ?I'd wish you cut down on the silly slogans and came forward with facts.The stakes are too important .What is even more appaling is that the people who oppose health care are rarely those that criticize the war waged on Irq that has enormously more financial costs and not one shred of positive impact on anything except on the revenues of Grumman,Blackwater,Haliburton and the other fundraisers of the republivan party .
Recent publications indicate you are full of it Tonny.
In one article in the WSJ, Daniele Capezzone president of the productivity Committee, Italian Chamber of Deputies, derides public Health care in Europe as under performing.
He goes on to mention the cure rates of various cancers and the will to keep the latest drugs from the population, for the purpose of capping costs in Euro Healthcare. They fail to prescribe, limit drug therapies, wait forever to get needed procedures, all the hallmarks of any public service.
Other articles indicate, In Britain for instance, women who cannot get treatment for breast cancer for up to 14 months after diagnosis. The lack of Mammograms, and stiflingly slow response makes it up to 40% more likely death will occur from the same malady as in the USA.
I want all Americans to imagine our productivity when our workers wait for procedures and treatment, companies paying sick leave, while a system, run by the same folks that run the other bloated fed bureaucracies, would slovenly now control your health care.
Your full of crap Tonny. Your hawking a phony dream. We have these systems in the USA i.e. Veteran Admin, etc., and they are over capitalized, underfunded, slow, and plodding systems. We have folks coming from Canada to get procedures they cannot get in a timely fashion in Canada. We SEE the real picture Tonny, and...this is a wake up call for you too...so do your leaders!
As for dems keeping the poor, poor it may not be their goal, but they are certainly very good at it. Supply side economics has raised more boats than a tidal wave. Immigrints come to America and, in one generation, manage to gain access to the middle class, or higher.
Now, even your euro politicians are taking notice and following suit.
We happen to like our 50 states. You, for instance, would not consider merging France and Germany, would you (well, maybe YOU!)? Even your nations have regions i.e. cities, etc., that have specific laws. These folks have very colloquial ideas on how they wish to govern themselves, just like we do here.
We feel the same way about states. America is large. People's point of view differs in various regions. State governments are FAR more efficient than our federal governments in a host of areas.
Education for one. Look at Washington D.C. education cost versus, say, Idaho, and then compare actual results.
It also makes possible the tremendous economic diversity we have. Iowa, a predominantly agrarian state, needs a far different set of laws governing a host of things, than say, New York.
Borders are good. The state with the poorest laws forces people and commerce to other, better legislated states, teaching the legislators valuable lessons on leadership they would never be forced to learn if they had no competition.
Public Education in the USA is the sterling example: It has a monopoly and it shows. Even liberals now, in surprise, Washington D.C. are advocating vouchers, after decades of Fed Ed, and teachers unions have reduced it to pablum.
No, Tonny, not even the europoliticians want unrestricted federalism. You will get a taste of it shortly when these euro bureaucrats pass the EU mess. Your redress will be so limited, reforms will be almost impossible.
Tell them the truth. These are people who want to be told what to do. They are afraid to take charge of their health care, retirement, or just about any facet of theit lives. Tonny from Belgium, and I agree, he's probably a yank, is the living embodiment.
They do't want participatory government. They want big brother. Every study shows privitization of retirement, health services, or just about any other government function brings value.
You cannot win here. They view it like a religion to them. It's like arguing with the Jehova's witnesses.
In America Tonny,
We either .
: Go to work,
: Earn Money
: Pay Taxes, Income/Property
: Purchase Heath Insurance, Car Insur, Home Insurance
: Pay for all our own food, water, electricity
: find in our Hearts to be giving to charities
OR YOU CAN DO THE FOLLOWING
: Not work
: Earn Money Selling food stamps for 50 cents on the dollar
: Sell drugs or any item that gets cash quick and easy
: Don't pay taxes, cause it was cash an nobody saw you do it.
: Collect welfare for five years, (ONLY GOOD POLICY OF CLINTON)
- Used to be unlimited
: Get free health care in emergency room. COSTS ME 100 bucks
: NEVER OWN ANYTHING, cause the government won't allow you to.
: Never get above the poverty line.
- Because you never generate true wealth, you are alive
but you never THRIVE all you do is survive.
: And you will vote Democrat cause they are the one giving you the free stuff that the above worked to provide you. If you could live with yourself, you got a lot less soul than me.
I had a guy from Sweden tell me that! He saw a fence around a vacant lot byt he airport and asked me ' wny is that there?' I explained it was to keep folks out, liablities, and he said 'who sells a fence to someone for a vacant lot?'
I told him you could buy it from Costco, Home Depot, etc., or even lease it. He just looked at me and said 'it's impossible to fail in America!'
What a statement.
I had to laugh with the usual spin,it gets only worse with you neocons .So now SP4 likes his 50 states...Is he deaf to reason ?My only point there was thhat 50 governments make out for more bureaucracy than one ;it means that one federal government equal less bureaucracy than fifty .So once agaib his ranting is irrelevant to the topic debated .As for the other posters gladly dismissed as the usual ranting .Check your sources guys before posting .One doctor in Iytaly claims health care in Italy is under performing .Guess what,he might be right .Did he say that the USA does any better ?I challenge neocons to find a respected European medical authority that says health care in the USA is better or more just .Good luck ,neocons you will find nothing .Why do you just not give the only real argument that actually is significant:your egoism .Little do you care about other Americans,you neocons only care for yourselves ,the leeches of corporate society ,paying almost no tax but making enormous profit emptying the state coffer to feed the greed of Haliburton,Nothrop-Grumman,Raytheon,Blackwater and other republican fund raisers .Under every republican president the money of your nation has been looted and handed out to the military industrial complex .
Once more I ask you the question :How is it possible none of you speaks out against the costly war in Ira ,ruining you nation ,leaving it with trillions of dollars to pay but find it too costly to use only one fraction of that money to provide health care and education.Despicable. people
One more thing,since the article is about Hillary Clinton.Rather than focusing on her program ,neocon spin now is now finding no better use of energy than flooding the media with silly spin about her laughter .How low can you get.Is that republican politics ?
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