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Blackwater scandal deepens

By Karyn Chenoweth Oct 2, 2007, 4:16 GMT

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RogérOct 2nd, 2007 - 07:23:47

The caption next to the picture above reads: '...after a firefight left eight civilians dead on 16 September 2007.'

The body count is getting lower over time; Iraqi police counted 18 killed, Americans watered it down, with help of the media, to 11 ... now it's only eight left. Soon, the incident did not occur at all or becomes a fistfight.

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...Oct 2nd, 2007 - 13:36:36

Mercenaries ... Lol


Thats what you get when you make buisness with such guys. Nothing but trouble.

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abeOct 2nd, 2007 - 15:16:11

The Board and personnel list of Blackwater constitutes a fine example of what your current administration is like .One moment you are in the Pentagon investigating and handing out contracts to private security corporations and one month later you are a member of the board of Blackwater ? An exeption ?Certainly not ,Blackwater ,the Republican Party ,the Pentagon and the White House are one branch of the military industrial complex ,easy to identify because the ties are so easy for all to view.They loot the taxpayer,hand out hefty sums from it to friends ,swap jobs and reward each other for services rendered to Blackwater. .You will not be surprised to learn that Kenneth Starr ,the fine gentleman that spent 30 million dollars taxpayer's money on an inquiry to discover that Bill Clinton got a blow job from Lewinsky is now rewarded by a job as a council to Blackwater .I guess his moral crusade has ended there and then .

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SP4: Well AbeOct 2nd, 2007 - 17:28:34

Let's review:

Clinton wasn't impeached for the blow job, he was impeached for lying to a federal judge about it. His peers at the trial bar, took his law license away for it, so I suspect they had an ax to grind, and they CERTAINLY are not part of the phony mil-ind complex.

These private rent a cops are put in impossible circumstances, for the lure of huge money, and then get pilloried for saving their own lives. Hell, I'd drink too!

How many of these stories have we seen debunked? How many lopsided judgements i.e. 9 years for a kid who made a prisoner act like a dog or some other rediculous judgement have we seen?

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tonny from belgiumOct 2nd, 2007 - 18:52:16

Good old SP4 always good to voice the neocon side of things .Defending their life ?The mercenaries of Blackwater ?Read the article well,SP4,also check the current investigation in Congress .I'm sorry if once more facts do not agree with your vision.But I admire your courage .I've never seen a man putting so much effort at stopping the tide.

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SP4:Tonny! Quick! Stop the presses!Oct 2nd, 2007 - 20:15:16

Other breaking news stories:

A woman was beaten in (insert any Islamic republics name here)

A black person in africa doesn't have enough to eat

Someone lied in Washington DC...besides Hillary...

Someone in China is having a baby.


Someone was shot in Iraq, Tonny! Quick, investigate it! Hell, they might be dead!

What kind of gossamer world do you live in for christsakes?

There is NO context in any of this drivel. Waxman? What a turd. he's been bucking this all along and now has some new victims.

Typical libnazi move i.e. take the obvious and put it in front of a committee and throw dung until some sticks. This will last until they get a democratic president and then, once it can touch them, the 'cone of silence' will descend.

Now, we are expected to believe that Waxman, seems disturbed by death in Iraq. Who died? Who knows.

Civilians dead in Iraq...195 incidents since 2005...how rediculous is this???

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PenmanOct 2nd, 2007 - 20:48:23

It's an easy deal for Waxman. He attacks someone no one cares about. He gets his 15 minutes and no matter the outcome, walks away with his core group tickled pink. Never mind the service these men and women provide,or that they are never going to get a fair hearing. Waxman is the democratic answer to Joseph McCarthy.

Doesn't it just seem weird, in a nation where up to 250 civilians at any one time may be bombed or killed, by a ruthless enemy that they focus on these, relatively small incidents?

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tonny from belgiumOct 2nd, 2007 - 23:49:30

WEll well,you some how missed a few points .The point is not on some 250 men .There is much more to Blackwater .It hosts some of the fines neocob cronies from the GOP like Kenneth Starr and other refugees from the Pentagon .One day you are handing out contracts to Blackwater,the next month you are on their paylist .
Today Blackwater was the talk of the town on Capitol Hill,it may well prove to be the achilles jeel of the BUsh administration ,one of many .
I'm stll awaiting some replys to my previous remarks about the value of the average Iraqi killed by some Blackwater lercenary,is the rate still 2 weeks salary of a mercenary ?Apprently I made a mistazke ,it is about 3 days salary .Go figure ...
Oh yeah ,I almost forgot.Is there a galant neocon around to enlighten me on this .How do you explain to anybody that the same administration claiming to bring security to Iraq has to rely on mercenaries to provide that very security to it's own staff .I will be very amused by any tentative to explain that.Try your best,but please leave out the insults

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tonny from belgiumOct 2nd, 2007 - 23:52:58

Hey SP4 What kind of gossamer world are YOU living in ?Isn't it you who thinks Bill Clinton getting a blowjob is worldnews ?Your whole world is build around that.I'll hand you that;you know your priorities.

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UPSerOct 3rd, 2007 - 08:03:24

The sense of honor and duty in our military gets replaced with the profit motive once privatization enters the picture. There is no honor in putting one's life at risk for the sake of money, natural resources or other materialistic motives. Our government and the corporations that own it don't genuinely care about the Iraqi people. That's why many of them are left without the basic necessities. From the get-go, this war was always about money. We are going to lose this war and we deserve to.

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ScottOct 3rd, 2007 - 08:29:08

'Doesn't it just seem weird, in a nation where up to 250 civilians at any one time may be bombed or killed, by a ruthless enemy that they focus on these, relatively small incidents?'

'Small' to who? Your racism is showing, Penman. Who would have guessed.


Add a little respect to your ego-driben hubris and you might be classified as a human being, eventually.

And quit crowing about a 'ruthless enemy'. Clucking 'enemy!'

Is that supposed to associate the ethnic strife with 911? Is it supposed
to associate the ethic strife with 'Al Qaeda'?

How about some proof. For once. And by proof I don't mean laying waste to a people,
scouring it for any and every clown who claims some link to, then pretending it existed befoer the attack in the first place.


Speaking of civilians, how many Americans are slaughtered by other Americans every single day?

Where's Blackwater when you need them?

Of course, there may be some 'small incidents', like you child etc....But c'est la vie.

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Jake WizardOct 3rd, 2007 - 08:38:00

lol

I see it differently. I see BlackWater being in the news on purpose. If the govt really wanted to cover something up, they will. This time, they didnt...must be for a good reason.

As we all know, the us govt has always covered things up professionally. What would Blackwater gain when it wasnt covered up? I could bet, they will gain a lot more than what the media is telling or even isnt aware of.

In the news, blackwater will face a congressional hearing. Someone on that board will profit so much money from this. Makes Sense?

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TS GordonOct 3rd, 2007 - 08:46:11

We are divided, and thusly conqured. There is no moving forward under this system of pros & cons. The cons so greatly outweighing the moments of quiet consternation and methodical thought.

I used to believe in art & architecture. Of a civilization built on progressive ideals.

Then I met Bill and Hillary and I was the very first to stand before the Arkansas Senate and challenge them for the systemic nature of the the games they would so wantonly deny. Then came Mena, and the boys on the tracks.

I don't see a comment here that merits my faith in the body politic restoring this republic.

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Jake WizardOct 3rd, 2007 - 09:00:45

We're not going to get our faith restored in current such politics.

Makes us wonder why...

There is something enormous out there going on, which the most of us are not aware of. Something hidden... and perhaps evil to its core. The best secret of all is psychological, a distraction that keeps us at bay.

Its like the grand lottery. All of us play all sorts of lotteries... some of us die, some of us get rich...some of us come into power... the list goes on and on.

Politics running around involving BlackWater this time, is only there to show to the public. What ever happens to the quote 'The Public has the right to know'?

What about those secret missions that BlackWater had done? Anyone investigate that? They cant nor will they ever get any information about these secret missions... nope not even the highest authority in washington can get it. A nondisclosure is a nondisclosure for all time.

Little iraqis getting killed, attracting attention of the iraqi govt, was done on purpose. Trust me, you will know, by heart. Conspiracy? Well, its close, but like I said previously, there is something else big going on, which they cannot afford to allow the public to know. They had to come up with a description of such attention with the iraqi govt.

A risk well taken, but is it worth it? They think so.



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Paul SilvermannOct 3rd, 2007 - 10:49:25

So where does this 'dream' of the international banking families end? Do they really believe that they can build a lasting world empire through deceit, death, and greed? The very seeds of its collapse lay deep within its origins. The only things that last in this world are those things that are in harmony with nature (the Tao). This is the truth of this reality. All other things perish and change into something else.

So why do they bother? Why can't these uptight megalomaniacs simply relax and enjoy life, like the rest of us? Perhaps it's because they are genetically deformed or Satanically inspired, because no person in their right mind would waste their precious life pursuing such idiotic endeavors.

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WillOct 3rd, 2007 - 12:42:57

Scott asked how many americans are slaughtered by other americans every day. The yearly figure for gun related killings is 30,000 - no doubt there are many more by other methods.

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Duncan O'FinioanOct 3rd, 2007 - 13:26:01

The Blackwater group are much like most police depts now.
Just your next doo bully coward in a uniform.
www.wintersteel.com/RobertDuncanOFinioan.html

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The patriotOct 3rd, 2007 - 14:03:01

It's time to put Blackwater out of business and Mr. Erik Prince the owner in prison!
No doubt all that taxpayer money he made is in offshore bank accounts!
This is the same scum bucket company that went door to door after hurricane Katrina hit rounding up innocent citizens and grabbing firearms! Bring it on Erik Prince, I'd like to see your contractors come to my front door trying to round me up and grab my weapons because your contractors will get 7.62 slugs in their head plus you'd be sued for violations on obstructing my liberties! So what do you all say? Let's shut down Blackwater and prosecute Erik Prince and some of his employees and contractors! Enuff said!

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alexOct 3rd, 2007 - 14:32:44

It has been generally known that Blackwater USA has been involved in many'situations' for some time now.There are videos on the internet of Blackwater operatives shooting innocent people in Bagdhad(allegedly).This is an organization that to be frank is an abomination and along with certain prominent politicians,is dragging the good name and credibility of the American people through the mud.Back here in the UK I occasionally see a Carlyle Group or Blackwater vehicle in our area this appears to be associated with missing persons and drugs violence-this may be just a coincidence but to be honest coincidences appear to be a very convenient excuse.

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furtherOct 3rd, 2007 - 15:01:55

Wizard is right, if this was told there is a reason.

Here are my two 'sense' worth:
First, Reagan replaces air traffic controllers, then private corporations begin working in the public schools, running prisons and now private 'contractors' try and run a war. It seems that the Regulators never, EVER quit.

A gun for hire is a Mercenary.

Be real? OK this Planet's social systems are the biggest money making and control scheme ever devised! Freedom? You must be kidding.

Fighting for peace is like...well you know the rest.

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