BACKGROUND: 100 million deaths under communism
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Jun 12, 2007, 18:47 GMT
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So its Communisms fault that the US carpet bombed Cambodia? I can see counting numbers who were killed in gulags and such, but throwing '100 million killed by Communism' out there is just stupid.
I am not a communist, but I am continually frustrated with the ignorance of the seemingly most educated among us regarding what communism is. Communism is an ECONOMIC system, not a political system! A dictatorship is to a democracy as capitalism is to communism. The press pushes this propaganda with Cuba regularly, calling it 'Communist Cuba' as naseum; this is like calling America 'Capitalist America!' Communism is not exclusive to dictatorships to more than capitalism is equivalent with democracy. Communism is NOT responsible for deaths, the fascist dictators who run the country are! An economic system is not responsible for killing people. Sheeesh.
Hmm.. Maybe they should create a memorial commemorating all the millions of deaths that were a result of American Imperialist Intervention in Latin America and the Rest of the third world. Lets start, 75,000 in El Salvador, over 200,000 in Guatemala, Hundreds of thousands in Iraq, Vietnam, African nations and the list goes on and on... Plus these figures do not include the thousands of 'Disappeared' that were snatched by UNITED STATES BACKED FASCIST REGIMES all over the world!!
Also WHY DONT THEY MAKE A MEMORIAL COMMEMORATING THE MILLIONS OF NATIVE AMERICANS THAT PERISHED due to starvation, forced relocation and countless massacres DURING THE BIRTH OF THE UNITED STATES!!!!
THE UNITED STATES SHOULD LOOK INTO ITS OWN HISTORY BEFORE TRUMPETING AND POINTING THE FINGER AT OTHERS!
how many have died in the name of 'god'? perhaps a memorial should be errected for this as well
Unfortunately Russia has not finished killing people.
There can be no doubt that President Putin is behind the recent assassinations in Moscow and London. His is the mind that is directing these evil acts with total deniability, of course. What Putin has established in the Kremlin is a Murder Inc. Mafia controlling total political and economic power. Death squads are roaming out from the Kremlin. Anyone who threatens – this power – is eliminated. The first act of nucleur terriorism came not from Al-Qaeda and Osma bin laden but from the Kremlin and President Putin. Just as Russia was about to emerge from 1000 years of darkness, into the light of democratic freedom - Putin and his KGB gang has plunged his people back into the abyss. Quoting the famous Russian writer Vladimir Sorokin “Germans, Frenchmen and Englishmen can say of themselves: 'I am the state.' I cannot say that. In Russia only the people in the Kremlin can say that. All other citizens are nothing more than human material with which they can do all kinds of things.” This is the Russia, Putin has created. An immoral, lawless wasteland. He is a traitor to his country. He is a traitor to his people.
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larry Houle
www.eudemocracy.net
Wow. A lot of hard feelings here. Admittedly, lumping many events under a single umbrella makes for some unfairness. Rather than preach to a brick wall, let me move on to something else interesting about this story: Given China's efforts to pretend Tiananmen Square, aren't they angry that a sculpture was modeled after something from that 'incident' in order to commemorate these deaths? This seems to be an affront equal to any time the U.S. government publicly supports Taiwan.
OK, the US is not innocent but I believe the point is this: first, in terms of scale of horrificness, communism dwarfs all others. Second, if you want to complain about killings in the name of God, again atheism (communism) dwarfs all others. If you hate the US so much, go somewhere else for a few decades. Then we'll talk about how awful the US is.
Since there is a Communist Party, communism is a political system that starts with the economic principles of Socialism which is an economic theory. Don't hide behind semantics to defend this horrible bastardised system of domination.As to how many have been killed by Democracy, that is a government, political system that killed lots of Nazis, Fascists and Communists thank you and working on killing Islamists nuts.
If one believes that Communism is a better way to live, it is very easy to go to Communist thinking countries but you had better hurry because they are finding quickly the obvious advantages of Capitalism and Democracy. Look at China and Russia. Cuba is the main Communist held land and when wacko dies, Cuba will drop that stupid starving habit as soon as they can get boat building back in business. The class hating jealousy of the non achievers towards the winners never succeeded in bettering anyone. The motto, 'Take away from each according to his ability to produce and give to each according to how much he can need,' only made the producers slack off so as not to be robbed from so all became desperately needy.Death to communism and class hate. Workers of the world,, Work, !!
And how democratic is capitalism? Ask Hitler.
No one has died because of democracy, at least not when it has been pluralistic. However, millions have died both directly and indirectly because of capitalism which, at least in it's present form, is hierarchical and anti-democratic. The dirty little secret of capitalism is that it is no more inherently democratic than is communism. Pure participatory democracy is when all institutions, *including the means of production* (aka. your job), are democratically managed from the bottom up. This is not capitalism, but 'socialism', and the allegedly democratic US government and it's corporate handlers have spent trillions of our tax dollars to ensure that no truly socialist example succeeds in rising to such prominence that it exposes capitalisms dirty little secret to the world. Hopefully that will all change as the 'Bolivarian Revolution' of participatory democracy and endogenous development takes root in Bolivia, Ecuador, and Nicaragua, and eventually spreads through South America and into the entire so called 'third world'.
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HeloJun 12th, 2007 - 19:29:32
And how many political deaths have there been from democracy?
....exactly
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