Bush rejects unconditional talks with Iran, Syria

Get RealDec 8th, 2006 - 17:58:59

To SP4,

RE: 'This is the only reason to have this sham committee...'

Wrong! ... The reason to have this committee is because your boy Bush and crew, have screwed things up royally. And it's only getting worse by the minute.

Do you really think the idiots who created this mess can be counted on to fix it?

Report this comment

Get RealDec 8th, 2006 - 18:28:28

Again to SP4,

Re: '... if folks start dying.'

Where the hell have you been?

I hate to break the news to ya, but people having been dying in this mess for years. And more are dying now than ever.

Report this comment

The Surrender Study-Another Lesson (again)Dec 8th, 2006 - 20:59:40

The committee was not set up to study Iraq. This is evidenced by the lack of anything new. It is a way to deflect attention from the congress that backed this little party.

It does this, by stating the obvious. Now, the president is supposed to stand and fling his arms up saying 'eureka!' as though these washed up apparatachicks have actually done something.

The crowning moment was when, on O'Reilly, Leon Panetta, Clinton's apparatchick and one of the members of the Surrender Study, was asked if we should pull out of Iraq. His response was absolutely astounding:
'I think that would be the worst possible move'

I could not believe it. I watched it a second time. He should have sent Sandy Berg(l)ar, but Murdoch was afraid he'd steal the corporate china, so he barred him from the building.

Honestly, it would have been hysterical, if it wasn't so lame. This is your Democratic party at work.

Do you actually think this has anything to do, at all, with Iraq? It's posturing for 2008.

Report this comment

Get RealDec 8th, 2006 - 21:17:32

For the above poster ...

The Iraq Study Group called it a 'comprehensive' plan.

Do you know what the word means? Apparently not. Let me explain it to you.

A comprehensive plan is a list of 'everything' they see as necessary to do for success, not just the new stuff.

And yes, a comprehensive plan will include the obvious, duh. And yes, it will include 'some' of what Bush is already doing too.

But most importantly, it will include things the Bush administration is not doing, or has refused to do, that they have determined will be helpful in achieving success.

Would you in your wisdom suggest we keep doing what isn't working? And blindly continue with an utter failure of strategic policy?

Re: you comment ... 'Do you actually think this has anything to do, at all, with Iraq? ' No, geez what was I thinking? ... Clearly, it has to do with 'La La Land', where you and Bush live.

Re: the title of your posting ... ' The Surrender Study' ... very revealing, I see you like to parrot the mindless, partisan distortions of Rush Limbaugh.

Ya know, I'm sick and tired of idiots like you spewing your mindless dribble and disinformation. I will call you the idiots you are.

I won't apologize for my tone, or harsh remarks towards your pure stupidity and hatred of anything that criticizes Bush's policies. Even the most obvious ones. (There are so many of them.)

And the reason is because innocent people are dying as a result of your kind of stupidity.

So, if you think Bush is sooo smart. And you think the war was sooo justified and necessary ... Why isn't your dumb ass over there fighting right now?

Report this comment

Moore Lessons(and More and more...)Dec 9th, 2006 - 00:00:50

It's called a 'Comprehensive Plan'

Do you know what that means? Now, let me explain it to YOU.

It means the politicians are running like hell from the problem. It means they will do, exactly, nothing. The key word is 'comprehensive'. It stinks like do-do.

The whole charade is designed to pass this onto the next asshole in office, ostensibly, either Hillary, or someone like McCain , who is under the delusion he is a Republican.

Like most things political, if a scintilla of progress is produced, it will be hailed as a raging success. If none is produced, the fingers will point, it doesn't matter who.

In the end, the only thing that impresses me is that, not once, to my knowledge, have I seen Bush trying to lay blame. His guys may have, but he has, pretty much borne the load. He, for whatever reason, has let this all rest on himself. That, my butt sore friend, is a rare thing in politics.

It is the enigma of Bush: He really doesn't care what is said about him. He really doesn't go sell his views(which is one of his shortcomings). In 35 years, I have never seen a president so unmotivated by public perception. Clinton, on the other hand, was a sychphants dream. He still wants to be a celebrity so bad it hurts. It is truely an enigma.

Rules for negotiation are embedded in the rules of politics:

Nothing is what it seems

Never accept the 1st draft

Always, watch your back

When their lips move, they are lying

Unless you have an ironclad verification, they will break it before the ink dries(think N. Korea).

Pity Not-so-slick Willie, and flubby Clifford didn't have these before he went to N. Korea in the 90's. My bet is that he never intended for it to be honored to begin with. That either makes him crooked, or stupid. You decide.

Right now, Bush is wiping his ass with your vaunted report. The best part is, so is Hillary.

Butter up sweetcheeks and assume the position, I have much, much Moore.

Report this comment

Get RealDec 9th, 2006 - 08:08:14

When it comes to this discussion, you're just like Bush at war.

You like to declare premature victory, just like him.

Here you are trying to tell us that the driving force for creating the bipartisan Iraq Study Group report had nothing at all to do with us being in a complete mess of a war.

A war that very soon, unless something intelligent is urgently done, even you won't be able to deny is a civil war.

You're trying to convince us that the report is not remotely motivated by a dire need to save success in an Iraq that's falling completely apart, before it's too late -- for our nation's security, the region's security, and even world security.

No, it has nothing at all to do with any of that does it?

Instead you're telling us it's purely political posturing for an election 2 yrs from now. Nothing more.

You're just too dumb to know how stupid you are.

All of your other points are mindless ramblings.

You're completely oblivious to the real world around you.

Yes, you're a perfect example of 'Some people you just can't reach.'

So just go on exchanging reality for your own delusional creations. I'm gonna let you argue with yourself about what they really mean.

And dude, when you keep talkin about how you wanna do my butt, you give me the creeps. I like chicks.

Report this comment