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By Chris Cermak Oct 3, 2008, 6:23 GMT
ANALYSIS: Palin answers some doubts in one-time debate with Biden
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Biden disgraced himself this evening:
JOE BIDEN’S 14 LIES TONIGHT
1. TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted “the exact same way” as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000, but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY.
2. AHMEDINIJAD MEETING: Joe Biden lied when he said that Barack Obama never said that he would sit down unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmedinijad of Iran. Barack Obama did say specifically, and Joe Biden attacked him for it.
3. OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING: Biden said, “Drill we must.” But Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to “raping” the Outer Continental Shelf.”
4. TROOP FUNDING: Joe Biden lied when he indicated that John McCain and Barack Obama voted the same way against funding the troops in the field. John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline, that the President of the United States had already said he would veto regardless of it’s passage.
5. OPPOSING CLEAN COAL: Biden says he’s always been for clean coal, but he just told a voter that he is against clean coal and any new coal plants in America and has a record of voting against clean coal and coal in the U.S. Senate.
6. ALERNATIVE ENERGY VOTES: According to FactCheck.org, Biden is exaggerating and overstating John McCain’s record voting for alternative energy when he says he voted against it 23 times.
7. HEALTH INSURANCE: Biden falsely said McCain will raise taxes on people’s health insurance coverage — they get a tax credit to offset any tax hike. Independent fact checkers have confirmed this attack is false
8. OIL TAXES: Biden falsely said Palin supported a windfall profits tax in Alaska — she reformed the state tax and revenue system, it’s not a windfall profits tax.
9. AFGHANISTAN / GEN. MCKIERNAN COMMENTS: Biden said that top military commander in Iraq said the principles of the surge could not be applied to Afghanistan, but the commander of NATO’s International Security Assistance Force Gen. David D. McKiernan said that there were principles of the surge strategy, including working with tribes, that could be applied in Afghanistan.
10. REGULATION: Biden falsely said McCain weakened regulation — he actually called for more regulation on Fannie and Freddie.
11. IRAQ: When Joe Biden lied when he said that John McCain was “dead wrong on Iraq”, because Joe Biden shared the same vote to authorize the war and differed on the surge strategy where they John McCain has been proven right.
12. TAX INCREASES: Biden said Americans earning less than $250,000 wouldn’t see higher taxes, but the Obama-Biden tax plan would raise taxes on individuals making $200,000 or more.
13. BAILOUT: Biden said the economic rescue legislation matches the four principles that Obama laid out, but in reality it doesn’t meet two of the four principles that Obama outlined on Sept. 19, which were that it include an emergency economic stimulus package, and that it be part of “part of a globally coordinated effort with our partners in the G-20.”
14. REAGAN TAX RATES: Biden is wrong in saying that under Obama, Americans won’t pay any more in taxes then they did under Reagan.
Biden also demonstrated that he doesn't know the difference between the Gaza strip and the west bank this evening:
'Here’s what the president said when we said no. He insisted on elections on the West Bank, when I said, and others said, and Barack Obama said, “Big mistake. Hamas will win. You’ll legitimize them.” What happened? Hamas won.'
Hamas won in Gaza, not the west bank proving once again that they drilled Bidens hair plugs in too deep and struck brain.
'While early opinion polls suggested Biden had performed better overall, winning had never been the key requirement for Palin.'
Any polls released now are online polls which are not accurate. For instance the Drudge report has her up:
{{{{DRUDGE POLL}}}} WHO WON THE VICE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE?...
BIDEN
29% 67,142
PALIN
70% 156,583
NEITHER
1% 3,849
Total Votes: 227,574
As I predicted yesterday the republican internet smear campaign would be quickly on this one .The smear will continue even after the elections is my next prediction.There is great need for an intelligent team to guide your country through the next decade ,solving the incredible problem of debt,health care and education ,all major issues which leave the US ranking as a third world country .Things won't go any better in the future if these problems are not addressed properly .Yet this is not the toughest problem.That one is constantly ignored :global warming of which the first predicted effects are showing ,exactly as predicted by the world community of scientists .The latest bad news being the emission of methane from ocean bottoms and tundra .Billions of tons will possibly released into the atmosphere .Methane is twenty times more powerful as a warmth retaining gas than carbon dioxide .
The world will need capable and understanding US government .Intelligence is required,et as far as I know the USA is the only country in the world in which intelligence is considered suspicious by the voters .
In regard of those issues I might add that Palin is now 'prepared' by a week of intensive brainwashing to answer questions from journalists .All her personal spontaneous statements have been ironed out and replaced by the typical 'newspeak' of the GOP.That doesn't qualify her in my honest opinion,unprepared was never the word that crossed my mind,rather unfit .That she still is,one week of intensive media training can change rhe appearance but not the core.
The length of these Republican posts suggests they were all prepared in advance by some of the sponsored posters who are trying to biasthe content of this site - as they have been doing for several months
As a balance for these biased views, onsider the steps taken (in a supposedly democratic country) to block voters. 1. States which don't allow anyone with a criminal record to vote - so if (say) Joe Brown has a conviction, they block every Joe Brown because they can't be bothered to check for the real one. 2. Insisting on photographic identity - knowing that many of the poorer people won't have a driving licence or passport - effectively discriminating against many would-be Democrat voters. 3. Not having easily accessible voting stations (by distance) knowing that the poorer voters (again Democrat tendency) will find it difficult to get there.
Don't believe me - check the detail for yourself
More considered polling gives - 'Voter polls suggested Mr Biden had won but Mrs Palin did better than expected. '
pathetic, thinking Caribou Barbi 'won' when she hardly answered a question. Biden much more experience---Palin much more 'muktuck'. At worst it was a tie all the polls are saying Biden was much more professional, kind of exactly what was expected.
Now if you can Keep Palin from answering any questions, she may make it to the election.
is an empty headed vessel, she and McCain is well suited. I am a woman who is not voting for Palin or going 'gaga' over her, she is not suited for the job, and that annoying wink she does like she has a stigmatism, people wake up! Because she is a woman? She and McCain thinks alike 'She will take away our rights as women.' The prejudices of America, Obama is black, McCain was being beaten just then he put a woman on his ticket wh is so not qualified and he is right for the country, puppy cock, no one want to se a biracial man as president but you want and old feeble warmonger, another Bush and this annoying woman.
I think the country should start a drinking game. Every time Palin says 'Maverick' or 'Alaska' take a shot. If nothing else, it will make the elections more entertaining.
'As I predicted yesterday the republican internet smear campaign would be quickly on this one '
What was posted that was a 'smear'? Could it be that you only see what you want to see?
'There is great need for an intelligent team to guide your country through the next decade'
Yes, and Obama, with the backing of international socialists is not the leader of that 'team'. He would be a disaster for the USA destroying our sovereignty by turning over American power and wealth to international organizations who hate everything this country stands for. That is EXACTLY why you want Obama. Because you, you little Belgian parasite, think you should be telling us how to live.
'That one is constantly ignored :global warming of which the first predicted effects are showing ,exactly as predicted by the world community of scientists .The latest bad news being the emission of methane from ocean bottoms and tundra .Billions of tons will possibly released into the atmosphere .Methane is twenty times more powerful as a warmth retaining gas than carbon dioxide .'
You should reduce your carbon footprint then tonny. You should jump in front of some co2 producing vehicle which is traveling at high speed.
'.Intelligence is required,et as far as I know the USA is the only country in the world in which intelligence is considered suspicious by the voters'
I have seen your little rat-hole of a country tonny. Anyone who would live there or rant the way you continually do about things you have no idea about shouldn't be lecturing about intelligence.
'I might add that Palin is now 'prepared' by a week of intensive brainwashing to answer questions from journalists .'
I might add that you have been brainwashed by the EU into a dutiful little trotskyite automaton. I might add that you can take your lectures and shove them because I might add that you are an idiot.
'The prejudices of America, Obama is black, '
Yes, Obama is black and he has benefited greatly because of it. The 'prejudice' of America is that we now have people voting for someone with 143 days in the senate and 20 years in a anti-white, anti-American church because he is black. I too object to prejudice which is why I will not vote for such an unqualified, proven liar as Barack Obama.
'then he put a woman on his ticket wh is so not qualified and he is right for the country'
She is running for Vice President. Obama is running for President. SHE IS MORE QUALIFIED then HE is.
Vote for qualifications, not race or you are as guilty as the KKK.
Asked how living close to Russia gave her foreign policy experience, Palin said,
“It’s very important when you consider even national security issues with Russia, as Putin rears his head and comes into the airspace of the United States of America. Where - where do they go? It’s Alaska - right over the border. It is from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are . . . right next to, to our state.”
GREAT JOB SARAH !!
Sarah Palin stated in the debate that she had a long talk with Henry Kissinger one wonders what the old puppet for Zionism was trying to squeeze outa Sarah, Maybe he want's what's left of Wall Street shifted to Israel. ,
'{{{{DRUDGE POLL}}}} WHO WON THE VICE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE?...'
Now there is something one can bank on. Why not Rush's poll, or maybe Savage's poll, or Coulter's poll?
What an idiot!
...no matter how you cut it...Tonny, and no matter how many words you try to use to hide it.
This is what the Internet is good for, in that it can expose a person like Biden. In an earlier time, the libnazi press could gag and ignore these glaring inconsistancies, but now we can view their words, coming from them, stored and retrieved on a whim.
Honestly, it just flabbergasts me how ignorant people like Biden and Obama are, expecting none of these inconsistancies to rise to the surface.
You constantly keep me laughing. You are so far to the right, if you turn around you will be standing right by Jesse Jackson.
You are 'outraged' by what Obama and Biden say as you think they are lying? Hoe about the 'bridge to no where', troopergate, $40 bb pipeline, etc., and these are just Ms. Palin's lies. They compliment the old man's claims to being a Maverick (LOL).
I am glad you are so ignorant, keeps me laughing.
'about the 'bridge to no where', troopergate, $40 bb pipeline, etc., and these are just Ms. Palin's lies. '
How are they 'lies'? do tell.
Hey SP4Oct 5th, 2008 - 01:02:27
You constantly keep me laughing.
sp4 - that can be cured now Professor. Also, if you let go of that pathetic knob of yours and hide it away, those laugh spasms will subside, but I'm afraid your same-sex lover will still chuckle.
You are so far to the right, if you turn around you will be standing right by Jesse Jackson.
sp4 - actually, I worked on the Perot campaign and walked away from the GOP for about 6 years. I opposed NAFTA then, unlike libnazis like you, and do not have to now try to fool the public that I now oppose it, unlike Mr. Obama did when he was caught in the act in Canada doing so.
I guess that's one more lie, right?
You are 'outraged' by what Obama and Biden say as you think they are lying?
sp4 - I'm not outraged, I just pointed out a fact..or in his case, numerous facts.
Hoe about the 'bridge to no where',
sp4 - I don't blame state politicians for being subjugated by federal politics.
troopergate,
sp4 - vindicated , or did you not hear?
$40 bb pipeline, etc.,
sp4 - what's next, Jimmy Hoffa's body found in Anchorage? Please tell me, after Rezko, the Clean Coal fantasy, Obama's Fannie Mae/Countrywide loans,His firend and fellow terrorist Mr. Ayers, etc., that you can produce more than this?
and these are just Ms. Palin's lies.
sp4 - Well she never 'landed under fire' did she?
They compliment the old man's claims to being a Maverick (LOL).
sp4 - Johnny has a record, Professor. Go study it and get back to us.
I am glad you are so ignorant, keeps me laughing.
sp4 - Thats just you looking at your own knob. Now go loosen the strap on your tinfoil hat, because it's way, way too tight.
When someone calls you stupid or ignorant and then you do a long post just to prove them right. Funny as hell. Thanks.
SP, as in Sarah Palin, can give a good speech when it's scripted or she can memorize answers to possible proposed questions in a debate, but when she's 'bare' she is a dimwit. Before the constant study for the debate, she was completely clueless, and her answers at her interviews were pathetic to say the least. It would, indeed, be dangerous for her to be elected with the possibility she would end up as President. She has a real 'smart-ass' mentality!
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