US House apologizes for slavery, reviving reparations call
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Jul 31, 2008, 3:16 GMT
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Close to 360,000 almost entirely white union soldiers killed and 275,200 maimed to end slavery doesn't mean squat in the culture of perpetual victimization.
'John Conyers, a left-wing black congressman from Michigan, is the hero of the US reparations movement for his annual attempt to earmark 8 million dollars to establish a commission to determine if slavery has a remaining impact on African-Americans'
8 million bucks.... sigh.
Good thing they are addressing this instead of $4.20/gallon gasoline.
Or the wars. Or the national debt. Or the borders, or health care for veterans, or the erosion of our manufacturing base, or... etc, etc...
Compare it to the costs of the war in Iraq,about ten minutes of warfare
The world will have to wait 150 years before congress apologizes for mass killing muslims and striking out against an arbitrary country and taking them over.
It seems that the United States likes what they do ... until 150 years later when they change their mind.
Genocide and slavery. The United States gets away with murder (literally!).
...dead?
Good timing for Barak.
'SP4: Aren't all the slaves ...dead?'
Indeed. All genocidal maniacs make the same argument.
By that argument the following is true:
If all christians are killed, converted or expired through attrition then they are all dead. Then would one need to apologize for the deed? Make restorations to the (presumably) left over pagan children (if any of their parents were christian)?
How convenient, just wait for all victims to die, then everything is all right; as long as the genocide is 100% complete.
'Compare it to the costs of the war in Iraq,about ten minutes of warfare'
Or welfare, prisons, unwanted children born to single mothers, the 'great society' programs etc.
People are personally responsible for their own destiny. The sooner we all realize that the sooner we will see equity.
lance
'The world will have to wait 150 years before congress apologizes for mass killing muslims and striking out against an arbitrary country and taking them over.'
I am not at all sorry for getting rid of Saddam. Indeed, most of the muslims that you want the USA to apologize for were slaughtered by other muslims... You know, the ones you come here to make excuses for.
'If all christians are killed, converted or expired through attrition then they are all dead.'
Which is exactly what the Koran tells muslims to do to Christians and every other non islamic religion.
You should pack up, go to the middle east and preach your BS there. I wonder how long it will be until we see your empty head chopped off on the internet?
'I am not at all sorry for getting rid of Saddam'
Sure, anyone who mass kills should be brought to justice, including Bush. So what? That is obvious.
However, using Saddam as an excuse for mass killing muslims and invading and occupying a nation is just about as bogus as the excuses:
(a) Weapons Of Mass Destruction
(b) 9/11
or any other lame excuse you can generate.
I am continually bewildered by the supposed well meaning but empty gestures of folks who continually revisit the past while real slavery exists in this world we currently live in:
Sudan - chattel slavery, mostly women and children removed from their homes and forced into servitude
China - child labor in electroinics factories, via the parents 'sourcing' them to the manufacturer.
Sierra Leonne - child soldiers, chattel slavery
Congo - chattel slavery, child conscript soldiers
Saudi Arabia - chattel slavery, forced prostitution, i.e. imported 'guest' workers, fillipino women, who are denied their passports and cannot leave.
The United States - Vietnamese workers in Pacific US territories brought on work contracts in canneries, and their travel docs confiscated by their employers, preventing their leaving of their own free will.
These are just a handful of the examples. Perhaps we could have the Congress move forward, say....150 years....and live in the present.
Almost too easy to imagine.
'I am continually bewildered by the supposed well meaning but empty gestures of folks who continually revisit the past'
If the United States does not recognize its mistakes then why should any of the nations you mention recognize their mistakes?
By the U.S. own actions, those nations you mention: Sudan, China, Sierra Leonne, Congo can go on with slavery for a long while and in about 150 years decide to recognize the mistake; or according to your behavior: Not recognize it at all.
Slavery is wrong for everyone no matter when they did it or do it.
Perhaps we could have [had] the Congress set a good example ... get rid of slavery when it first started.
Almost too easy to imagine.
Lance - not only are the arabs behind all the terrorism in todays world they are the most responsible for bringing the slaves to America. Did you know that the arabs (muslims) were the biggest slave traders of all time ? They are the ones that should be apologizing to all of us.
'not only are the arabs behind all the terrorism in todays world'
... well, it all depends on how you define terrorism. If it is something that invokes terror then a huge arsenal of cruise missiles, laser guided bombs, and the biggest stockpile of nukes and WMDs is probably very terrorizing. i.e.: The biggest terrorist in the world is the United States.
They are also the only ones who have used nukes, while the Germans are notorious for chemical warfare. The terrorist activities of the U.S. nation are huge compared to a low-tech middle east country.
Let's ask this question:
Would you be in terror if you saw a fleet of cruise missiles (possibly nuclear tipped) fly over your house?
You need to reevaluate your mindset.
'Sure, anyone who mass kills should be brought to justice,'
Like Ahmadinejad and Khamenei?
' using Saddam as an excuse for mass killing muslims'
It was muslims who were killing each other en masse.. Indeed, we lost thousands of Soldiers and Marines trying to prevent them from doing what they do best.
(a) Weapons Of Mass Destruction
Tons of Iraqi yellowcake uranium were just delivered to Canada.
(b) 9/11
The USA fought al qaeda in Iraq.
'or any other lame excuse you can generate.'
Drop dead. You are too obtuse to get the obvious; YOUR RELIGION periodically declares war on humanity in order to subjugate it.Want to do something good for muslims? Go to Mecca and tell them that they shouldn't take the koran literaly when it tells them to kill the infidel.
'Slavery is wrong for everyone no matter when they did it or do it.'
Yes, and slavery still exists in islamic countries. Go preach against that as well. Mohammad (PB&J) OWNED SLAVES who he RAPED according to the koran. One was a 9 year old girl.
well, it all depends on how you define terrorism.
With excuse making like yours muslims will be humanity's burden for a long time to come.
'Tons of Iraqi yellowcake uranium were just delivered to Canada. 'Iraq did buy uranium ore from Niger–in 1981. That uranium has been sitting around in storage since. It was inspected by the UN weapons inspectors. UN weapons inspectors wanted it there.'The USA fought al qaeda in Iraq.'al qaeda was not in Iraq until after the invasion.'flying people in to buildings full of people'No one from Iraq had anything to do with that.Do you have any more excuses, or is that all the lame bull you can come up with?
'Aren't all the slaves... ...dead?'
Nope they aren't. You are a slave to your drug habit.
It's about time that we all got beyond all the politically correct nonsense talk. Just because the crazy libnazis put a biased spin on 'slavery' to make it seem bad, it still doesn't make it wrong.
All those of Afro-American heritage should be happy with their situation instead of being critical of it. They should feel honored to be rescued from the mosquito infested jungles, and given a home in America. What the anti-American libnazis call 'slavery' was actually a very benevolent, family oriented life style, that was destroyed by carpetbaggers from the nothern states who were trying to dominate the south and rob the people of their god-given property rights. Descendants of so-called 'ex-slaves' should be paying the government for the priviledge of becoming citizens.
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