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May 1, 2008, 13:35 GMT

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lanceMay 1st, 2008 - 16:06:31

I'm not tired of this issue at all and it is very relevant. It shows how he would select an advisor and then ride with it until that advisor does something so stupid that no one can ignore it. It is just like Bush's advisors. They gave bad advice over and over again until Bush just had to get rid of them and replace them with new advisors that gave bad advice over and over again. They don't get replace until they really screw up, like take over a muslim nation for ill-stated reasons and then start killing people all over the place. Surely there must be a better standard for advisors. Obama's selection does not instill too much confidence.

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SP4: YeahMay 1st, 2008 - 16:11:30

We're not tired of this issue either. The libnazi press is, I'm sure but this isn't going away.

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Obama is notMay 1st, 2008 - 16:20:00

responsible for the things Wright says.

He is responsible for knowing Wright's views and staying with him and listening to him for 20 years.
The first thing I would with views, that ingrained, being screamed at me is walk out and never ever go back. There is no excuse for Obama.

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tonny from belhiumMay 1st, 2008 - 17:34:48

Have it your way,but much more relevant is the special prosecutor in Guantanamo Bay saying the White House ordered the special courts never to admit the existence of innocent detainees in Gitmo .Anything yo say about that dear neocons,it seems imensely more important to me .A deafening silence from the republicans is greeting that statement .Guess why they rather concentrate on this irrelevant issue .
Do those neocons realy think that they can fool anyone into thinking the damage done to ethics by the words of a silly preacher than the deeds of your very president raping the basic principles of democracy and the separation of powers .Which one is more important ?

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BobMay 1st, 2008 - 17:49:34

Tonny,

This is how the neocon/jewish media machine works. You see, you can get impeached for getting a harmless BJ from under your desk, however, if you lie, cheat, and murder millions of innocent people, it's okay.

Fascism Sucks

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DannyMay 1st, 2008 - 23:44:10

Jesse Jackson already spilled the beans on the whole thing - he said this morning that it's too soon for them to reconcile. It's political staging. They will be back together when it's more convenient.

Obama knew all along exactly who Wright was and what he was about. They do not like most Americans.

Obama is in the hole he dug for himself. And now we get to watch which superdelegates jump into the hole with him.



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Barack Obama hasMay 2nd, 2008 - 01:31:52

a great slight of mouth. Danger, beware!

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truconserveMay 2nd, 2008 - 15:38:50

I must take exception to Bob's comment above concerning the 'neocon/jewish media machine'. This should be identified as 'neocon/Zionist'. There is a huge difference between most Jewish people and the Zionist Jewish, just as there is a huge difference between the Mormons and many of the Christian sects. Granted that some of the most influential ideas of the policy makers behind the ill-fated blunders in Iraq came from Zionist oriented Jewish persons intimatly associated with the neocons driving the Bush admin foreign policy. Those fanatics certainly tend to falsely equate what they perceive as the foreign policy interests of some of the Zionists in Israel as the exact same foreign policy interests of the United States. But, those kind do not broadly represent Jewish interests, let alone the interests of most Jewish people living in the United States. To think otherwise, and lump them all together, is erroneous, and false. This is similar to saying that the evangelical Christians with their peculiar Armageddon beliefs and their creationist agenda are identical to, lets suggest, the Christians of the United Church of Christ and its affiliate Trinity Church in Chicago.
However, my concerns are more inline with Tonny, since I perceive that the current leaders are squandering our resources, including our precious troops, driving up prices world-wide, and bankrupting our economy, and our future economy, in the vain-glorious, and doomed to failure, quest to win a war to impose democracy in Iraq. What did happen to our pursuit of the gang behind the 9/11 terrorism, osama bin laden, and the country/countries that harbor them?

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TomMay 2nd, 2008 - 23:22:12

If you go to pollster.com and check out Hillary vs McCain and then Obama vs McCain you can see that it has effected him greatly.

Hillary is way ahead of Obama and showing again she is the one to beat McCain.

That is why his campaign is desparate and sent Joe Andrew out for another round of 'beat up Hillary', 'it's all her fault', we want this over now, blah blah blah.

And the DNC what are they going to say? Yes we know that Hillary won Texas and that the delegates were awarded to Obama anyway?

And that it is not democracy for a state to give all their delegates to Obama for no reason?

It's not much of a change and I certainly am not feeling any hope. Obama is so full of B.S.






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You blew it.May 3rd, 2008 - 00:22:05

This has been abridged to conserve space:

The 'Race' Speech Revisited

By Charles Krauthammer

'I can no more disown him [Jeremiah Wright] than I can disown my white grandmother.'-- Barack Obama [..]

Guess it's time to disown Granny, if Obama's famous Philadelphia 'race' speech is to be believed. Of course, the speech was not just believed. It was hailed, celebrated, canonized as the greatest pronouncement on race in America since Lincoln at Cooper Union. A New York Times columnist said it 'should be required reading in classrooms across the country.' College seniors and first-graders, suggested the excitable Chris Matthews.

Apparently there's been a curriculum change. On Tuesday, the good senator begged to extend and revise his previous remarks on race. Moral equivalence between Grandma and Wright is now, as the Nixon administration used to say, inoperative. Poor Geraldine Ferraro, thrice lashed by Obama in Philadelphia as the white equivalent of Wright's raving racism, is off the hook.

These equivalences having been revealed as the cheap rhetorical tricks they always were, Obama has now decided that the man he simply could not banish because he had become part of Obama himself is, mirabile dictu, surgically excised.

At a news conference in North Carolina, Obama explained why he finally decided to do the deed. Apparently, Wright's latest comments -- Obama cited three in particular -- were so shockingly 'divisive and destructive' that he had to renounce the man, not just the words.

What were Obama's three citations? Wright's claim that AIDS was invented by the U.S. government to commit genocide. His praise of Louis Farrakhan as a great man. And his blaming Sept. 11 on American 'terrorism.'

But these comments are not new. These were precisely the outrages that prompted the initial furor when the Wright tapes emerged seven weeks ago. Obama decided to cut off Wright not because Wright's words or character or views had suddenly changed. The only thing that changed was the venue in which Wright chose to display them -- live on national TV at the National Press Club. That unfortunate choice destroyed Obama's Philadelphia pretense that this 'endless loop' of sermon excerpts being shown on 'television sets and YouTube' had been taken out of context.

Obama's Philadelphia oration was an exercise in contextualization. In one particularly egregious play on white guilt, Obama had the audacity to suggest that whites should be ashamed that they were ever surprised by Wright's remarks: 'The fact that so many people are surprised to hear that anger in some of Reverend Wright's sermons simply reminds us of the old truism that the most segregated hour of American life occurs on Sunday morning.'

That was then. On Tuesday, Obama declared that he himself was surprised at Wright's outrages. But hadn't Obama told us that surprise about Wright is a result of white ignorance of black churches brought on by America's history of segregated services? How then to explain Obama's own presumed ignorance? Surely he too was not sitting in those segregated white churches on those fateful Sundays when he conveniently missed all of Wright's racist rants.

Obama's turning surprise about Wright into something to be counted against whites-- one of the more clever devices in that shameful, brilliantly executed, 5,000-word intellectual fraud in Philadelphia -- now stands discredited by Obama's own admission of surprise. But Obama's liberal acolytes are not daunted. They were taken in by the first great statement on race: the Annunciation, the Chosen One comes to heal us in Philly. They now are taken in by the second: the Renunciation.

Obama's newest attempt to save himself after Wright's latest poisonous performance is now declared the new final word on the subject. Therefore, any future ads linking Obama and Wright are preemptively declared out of bounds, illegitimate, indeed 'race-baiting'[...].

On what grounds? This 20-year association with Wright calls into question everything about Obama: his truthfulness in his serially adjusted stories of what he knew and when he knew it; his judgment in choosing as his mentor, pastor and great friend a man he just now realizes is a purveyor of racial hatred; and the central premise of his campaign, that he is the bringer of a 'new politics,' rising above the old Washington ways of expediency. It's hard to think of an act more blatantly expedient than renouncing Wright when his show, once done from the press club instead of the pulpit, could no longer be 'contextualized' as something whites could not understand and only Obama could explain in all its complexity.

Turns out the Wright show was not that complex after all. Everyone understands it now....


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