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PatriotJan 20th, 2008 - 16:06:28

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Doesn'tJan 20th, 2008 - 17:25:41

McCain look like he belongs in the house of wax?

What a mess this country is in if McCain is put into office. For some reason, we just keep voting in psychos.

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SP4: No, it does notJan 20th, 2008 - 17:43:30

Perhaps, before shooting your mouth off, you should look at Johnny's resume'. Also, go read his book, and then decide.

He's a Naval Acadamy grad, served in combat in Vietnam, captured and released.

He's been a federal legislator for at least 20 years, and passed some of the most contentious legislation, taking it in the chest, that risk averse Hillary's and Obama's run from like the wind, while preening themselves for higher office.

He has harangued the Pentagon over countless spending priorities, and pushed reform to the tune of billions of dollars. In each case, he has taken a political hit.

I'm not a big fan of John MCCain's politics, but there is not a man and certainly no WOMAN who deserves the shot more. In each case, he has come out and told it like it is, the consequences be damned. You would think this would earn him some cred, but dickheads like you cannot add two and two.

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Yes, read his bookJan 20th, 2008 - 18:06:55

'Perhaps, before shooting your mouth off, you should look at Johnny's resume'.'

What's 50 years of service to the USA versus Obama's lengthy resume of... a term in the senate. Or Hillary's lengthy resume of... being someone's wife and the worst (jr) senator my state has. (That is saying something when you consider that the other one is Charles Schumer.)

'Also, go read his book, and then decide.'

As if they could read.

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You twoJan 20th, 2008 - 18:35:14

are a couple of sheep. McCain is a two timing, four-flushing, double-crossing, liar; and you two bought into his bullshit. He got shot down in Vietnam and he has you eating out of the palm of his hand and believing he should be president of the US. What children you are.

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23 skidoo to you too grandma..Jan 20th, 2008 - 18:43:34

'are a couple of sheep. McCain is a two timing, four-flushing, double-crossing, liar; and you two bought into his bullshit. '

LOL!

'two timing, four-flushing, double-crossing'

Gee, someone had to go back to the 1930's to get their insult phraseology..

'Four-flushing'!!!! Why not call him a scoundrel and a cad!

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Why not call him a scoundrel and a cad!Jan 20th, 2008 - 19:00:37

That too.

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NoharnessJan 20th, 2008 - 19:14:40

RE:'are a couple of sheep. McCain is a two timing, four-flushing, double-crossing, liar; and you two bought into his bullshit. He got shot down in Vietnam and he has you eating out of the palm of his hand and believing he should be president of the US. What children you are.'

You're just upset because the M&C boards allows a genuine exchange of ideas and opinions. Why don't you go back to the Huffington Post where you can be happy?

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Not upset.Jan 20th, 2008 - 19:40:47

I'm just not for McCain. I've known about him for a lot of years and I would hate to see him in the White house. He is not good for the USA.
Well, yeah, I'm a little upset I guess. Not with McCain, but with people like you who sing his praises without at least knowing about him.

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In additionJan 20th, 2008 - 19:42:15

the only thing his supporters read, was written by him.

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NoharnessJan 20th, 2008 - 20:18:08

See if you ca find a place where I have come out in support of John McCain.

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noharness, a.k.a. Donald Lee Granberry, saysJan 20th, 2008 - 23:20:44

'You're just upset because the M&C boards allows a genuine exchange of ideas and opinions. Why don't you go back to the Huffington Post where you can be happy?'

Yes, you may have your opinion as long as it does not differ from Noheadedness. If you opine anything else, then you are an idiot, moron, fool, have memory or mental problems etc.
His words may be important to his fellow Houston, Texas compatriots, but in the rest of the world, he is just another blathering bumkin.

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? ? ? ?Jan 20th, 2008 - 23:27:30

Would McCain make a better candidate that multi-millionaire Romney - or maybe the lesser of two evils??

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? ? ? ?Jan 20th, 2008 - 23:28:37

Sorry - I meant 'than' multi-millionaire Romney!

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Not a bumpkin...Jan 21st, 2008 - 00:39:51

'Yes, you may have your opinion as long as it does not differ from Noheadedness. If you opine anything else, then you are an idiot, moron, fool, have memory or mental problems etc.'

So why do you insist on proving him right?


'His words may be important to his fellow Houston, Texas compatriots, but in the rest of the world, he is just another blathering bumkin.'

I am from New York City, does that entitle me to call you an idiot?

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TO:Not a bumpkin...Jan 21st, 2008 - 02:10:36

'I am from New York City, does that entitle me to call you an idiot?'
That would definitely be a case of the pot calling the kettle black.
'So why do you insist on proving him right?'
Exactly how did did that happen? Maybe in some sense of mind-numbness caused by the polluted atmosphere in New Yuck, your sentence is logical. But that is a very narrow paradigm, quite similar to the typical yankee's uneducated programmed 'thinking' mode.
Thirdly, coming from a metropolis you are definitely not a bumkin.
Have a nice day, fricking moron.

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tonny from belgiumJan 21st, 2008 - 10:46:52

Why don't you guys consider fine tuning what could be a useful debate to the programs candidates present .You have a plagues health care system that accounts for the loss of ten thousands lives per year due poor functioning and people being banned access to it .Education can be improved ,it ought to be free for all,not subject to the wealth of your parents.THose are issues that create equal opportunities and rights for all americans .If you consider the incredible amount of money that has been spent on the Iraqi disaster ,you'll find out that all of it could have been easily financed with the money spent on weapons.You would still even have been able to provide decent housing for those that are homeless or living in slums .THose are more important issues in my eyes.Republicans offer nothing and so they concentrate on empty words such as 'leadership capacities' ,etc.Don't get fooled ,the issues of democracy is all of you.THe next stage in the republican campaign will be smear and slander ,dirty tricks if they see their chances of being elected deflated.THey did that to John Kerry (remember the sift boat campaign ? à and to Clinton (Just ask SP4 about that ...Hsu...Berger...) don't get sidetracked by smear or irrelevant issues,focus on your interests in all this .Can you use decent health care?

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NoharnessJan 21st, 2008 - 11:59:22

RE:'Why don't you guys consider fine tuning what could be a useful debate to the programs candidates present .You have a plagues health care system that accounts for the loss of ten thousands lives per year due poor functioning and people being banned access to it.'

Says who, Tonny? I agree that it is entirely possible, but statistically it is insignificant relative to our population. We lose about 40,000 people per year in automobile accidents, even with safest automobile designs ever produced. Practically speaking how much better can it get? Health care for most of is a good deal more expensive than we like, but the poor do get pretty good care here.

RE:'Education can be improved ,it ought to be free for all,not subject to the wealth of your parents. THose are issues that create equal opportunities and rights for all americans.'

Basic education, twelve years of it, is free and mandatory in every state of the union, Tonny. The system stopped performing well right after I graduated from high school and has continued to worsen despite billions of dollars being pumped into the system. Some of the problems causing the system to fail are not susceptible to the spending of more money. Very often, the problems lie with parents and local leadership. Also, I think the worst of these problems is that school administrators are unwilling to rid the schools of disruptive students.

RE:'If you consider the incredible amount of money that has been spent on the Iraqi disaster ,you'll find out that all of it could have been easily financed with the money spent on weapons.'

Actually, what you are talking about here is the money spent on a war, not just weapons. Was the war necessary? That really is debatable. When we went into Iraq the majority of Americans were FOR IT, but they expected the military to kick asses and then come home and not stay in Iraq for a protracted period of time, something Colin Powell had warned about during the first Persian Gulf War.

Would that money have been better spent on education, housing and other welfare programs? No, not really. The war has put us so far into debt that it is sickening.

RE:'You would still even have been able to provide decent housing for those that are homeless or living in slums.'

Had the federal government taken control of our southern border as it had promised to do back during the Reagen Administration, many of our social welfare troubles would be somewhere near being solved by now. The huge influx of immigrants has hurt us a good deal more than members of either political party want to admit. Both of them profit from the misery.

RE:'THose are more important issues in my eyes.Republicans offer nothing and so they concentrate on empty words such as 'leadership capacities' ,etc.Don't get fooled ,the issues of democracy is all of you. THe next stage in the republican campaign will be smear and slander ,dirty tricks if they see their chances of being elected deflated.THey did that to John Kerry (remember the sift boat campaign ? à and to Clinton (Just ask SP4 about that ...Hsu...Berger...) don't get sidetracked by smear or irrelevant issues,focus on your interests in all this.'

Oh, both parties do this same thing during every campaign. It is nothing new and both sides are really good at it. It is NOT just the Republicans who pull this crap. As for John Kerry, the swift boat campaign would not have hurt him one bit if people had liked him. Look at the BS Bill Clinton has gotten away with. People forgave his misbehavior because they liked him. Is that crazy? You're damned right it is, but that is how democracies work.

I'll give you another for instance. Look at how these boards work most of the time. Nearly a half to two-thirds of the exchanges here amount to little more than traded insults. There is no such thing as purity in politics and there never will be. Any argument about what politics should be or could be will likely be correct, but suffers from the failure to recognize the nature of the materials with which politics are built--human beings.

So, if you want to argue against the Goopers on any subject, including health care, it is necessary to refute their ideas and claims. Simply dismissing said ideas as 'non-existent' or as being 'nothing to offer' really won't make the grade.

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NoharnessJan 21st, 2008 - 12:19:20

RE:'Yes, you may have your opinion as long as it does not differ from Noheadedness. If you opine anything else, then you are an idiot, moron, fool, have memory or mental problems etc.
His words may be important to his fellow Houston, Texas compatriots, but in the rest of the world, he is just another blathering bumkin.'

The only opinion you ever fully express on these boards is your opinion of me. How did I become so important to you? Aren't your ideas and opinions more important to you than I am? Why don't you try expressing them? Let others judge between what you and I think about the issues of the day.

Sure, if you express an opinion that I do not agree with I will argue against it, so may any number of other people. If the refutation makes you feel like a moron you must be wearing the hat because it fits. I don't go around calling people names, that's your long suit, not mine. It looks as though you prefer to try and bully people into agreeing with you rather than persuading them.

Rest assured, bullying will not work with me. I know how to make bullies miserable.

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@NoHarnessJan 21st, 2008 - 18:08:05

'I know how to make bullies miserable.' How do you do this, reveal the fact that not only are you wrong on most of your 'facts', but that you are in fact a cross-dressing right wing neo-con?

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